First 1911 in 45 (Read 151028 times)

aieahound

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #640 on: May 16, 2022, 05:28:18 PM »
That’s pretty awesome it ran without hiccup.

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #641 on: May 16, 2022, 07:53:48 PM »
Cleaned her for the 1st time. It does take longer than striker fire, but not much. Just gotta get used to disasembly/assembly. Had to pause and visit YT.

Gonna do a little more mag dumps at the next HDF open shoot .

Next test might be how long can shoot b4 cleaning. Just oil and see if and how often jams occur.

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changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #642 on: May 17, 2022, 12:45:48 PM »
4got to add, the FDE although looks bad ass, is a PITA. I get smudges of black soot/carbon on the slide due to my hands being dirty after cleaning. This isn't noticeable with a black handgun.  So after cleaning is done, I wash hands and then do a final clean on the slide to remove the smudges/prints of soot/carbon.  This is an OCD thing at home. Out at the range, I have no problem of putting her in the dirt.

While cleaning, I feels like working on a classic muscle car (a work of art).  Compared to when cleaning the VP9 or like gun, it's like working on a Honda Civic SI.

drck1000

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #643 on: May 18, 2022, 03:37:03 PM »
Cleaned her for the 1st time. It does take longer than striker fire, but not much. Just gotta get used to disasembly/assembly. Had to pause and visit YT.

Gonna do a little more mag dumps at the next HDF open shoot .

Next test might be how long can shoot b4 cleaning. Just oil and see if and how often jams occur.

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You should to an O/U for rounds until first time it chokes. 

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #644 on: May 18, 2022, 06:30:46 PM »
You should to an O/U for rounds until first time it chokes.
321 for the jinx.

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oldfart

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #645 on: May 19, 2022, 06:35:43 AM »
Cleaned her for the 1st time. It does take longer than striker fire, but not much. Just gotta get used to disasembly/assembly. Had to pause and visit YT.

Gonna do a little more mag dumps at the next HDF open shoot .

Next test might be how long can shoot b4 cleaning. Just oil and see if and how often jams occur.

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DocMercy

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #646 on: May 19, 2022, 08:35:09 AM »
Gonna do a little more mag dumps at the next HDF open shoot .

Usually the distances are not too challenging, maybe 7 or 15 yds at most? What is the CEP you are achieving at these distances? CEP is based on a 50% probability circle (or ellipse) about the bullseye center, not the MOA grouping around a floating mean.

One of the RSO's at KHSC told me that there is a bay on the left of the pistol range where you can set up a Ransom Rest to check out the inherent accuracy of your handgun at 25 - 50 yds. The RR has to be special ordered with a grip holder for your 1911. You'll need to contact the owner's wife in Arizona to order the device. Buying one of these means you are heading down a rabbit hole which will get deeper and deeper. Every week you'll be practicing until you bond with the new handgun, trying out new ammo, sights, grips, etc. You may even become a wind reader.  :wave:

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #647 on: May 19, 2022, 08:58:28 AM »
Usually the distances are not too challenging, maybe 7 or 15 yds at most? What is the CEP you are achieving at these distances? CEP is based on a 50% probability circle (or ellipse) about the bullseye center, not the MOA grouping around a floating mean.

One of the RSO's at KHSC told me that there is a bay on the left of the pistol range where you can set up a Ransom Rest to check out the inherent accuracy of your handgun at 25 - 50 yds. The RR has to be special ordered with a grip holder for your 1911. You'll need to contact the owner's wife in Arizona to order the device. Buying one of these means you are heading down a rabbit hole which will get deeper and deeper. Every week you'll be practicing until you bond with the new handgun, trying out new ammo, sights, grips, etc. You may even become a wind reader.  :wave:

At 15 yards with my VP9, I can hit avocado grouping at my POA/POI. This is for slow to moderate speed.  So I expected the M45 to do the same or close, I would have been happy with grapefruit size grouping. My low shots were about small jabone grouping. But the POA/POI is what bothered me more. Had it been 5 inches higher and small jabone grouping, I would have accepted that more.  At least my low shots are some what consistent.

At 5 yards and the VP9, I'm tangerine grouping with moderate speed.  For the M45, I was low about 2-3 inches of POA but tangerine grouping.

So the POA/POI is my issue right now. More training is needed.

At 25 with the VP9, I can hit an index card with 2-3 of 5 shots. The shots off card are to the left of it like 1-3 inches.  With a G19, 5 of 5 are on the index card. This is slow fire only.

I do not plan on buying a holder or like device.

oldfart

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #648 on: May 19, 2022, 09:21:13 AM »

At 15 yards with my VP9, I can hit avocado grouping at my POA/POI. This is for slow to moderate speed.  So I expected the M45 to do the same or close, I would have been happy with grapefruit size grouping. My low shots were about small jabone grouping. But the POA/POI is what bothered me more. Had it been 5 inches higher and small jabone grouping, I would have accepted that more.  At least my low shots are some what consistent.

At 5 yards and the VP9, I'm tangerine grouping with moderate speed.  For the M45, I was low about 2-3 inches of POA but tangerine grouping.
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changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #649 on: May 19, 2022, 09:26:08 AM »
At 15 yards with my VP9, I can hit avocado grouping at my POA/POI. This is for slow to moderate speed.  So I expected the M45 to do the same or close, I would have been happy with grapefruit size grouping. My low shots were about small jabone grouping. But the POA/POI is what bothered me more. Had it been 5 inches higher and small jabone grouping, I would have accepted that more.  At least my low shots are some what consistent.

At 5 yards and the VP9, I'm tangerine grouping with moderate speed.  For the M45, I was low about 2-3 inches of POA but tangerine grouping.
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Avocado a fruit or veggie?  It's like tomato.

oldfart

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #650 on: May 19, 2022, 09:46:59 AM »
Avocado a fruit or veggie?  It's like tomato.
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It is a pretty queer fruit.....

am I allowed to say that in public?

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changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #651 on: May 19, 2022, 11:59:00 AM »
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It is a pretty queer fruit.....

am I allowed to say that in public?

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aieahound

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #652 on: May 19, 2022, 04:46:25 PM »
How did the direction get here, based on an avocado sized grouping ?
 :wacko: :rofl:
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macsak

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #653 on: May 19, 2022, 04:49:52 PM »
How did the direction get here, based on an avocado sized grouping?
 :wacko: :rofl:

cmo just likes to talk about his "jabone"...

WTF?Shane

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #654 on: May 19, 2022, 05:08:25 PM »
Usually the distances are not too challenging, maybe 7 or 15 yds at most? What is the CEP you are achieving at these distances? CEP is based on a 50% probability circle (or ellipse) about the bullseye center, not the MOA grouping around a floating mean.

One of the RSO's at KHSC told me that there is a bay on the left of the pistol range where you can set up a Ransom Rest to check out the inherent accuracy of your handgun at 25 - 50 yds. The RR has to be special ordered with a grip holder for your 1911. You'll need to contact the owner's wife in Arizona to order the device. Buying one of these means you are heading down a rabbit hole which will get deeper and deeper. Every week you'll be practicing until you bond with the new handgun, trying out new ammo, sights, grips, etc. You may even become a wind reader.  :wave:

OP mentions mag dumps, so it sounds like the main goal is function testing.

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #655 on: May 19, 2022, 05:52:55 PM »
OP mentions mag dumps, so it sounds like the main goal is function testing.
^^^this with a little moderate fire accuracy. Too much caffeine for slow fire.

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changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #656 on: May 19, 2022, 05:53:04 PM »
cmo just likes to talk about his "jabone"...
Heads

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k3k0a808

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #657 on: May 19, 2022, 09:43:43 PM »
The quality of the 1911 is largely a function of price.  The Springfield Professional 1911 that the FBI and HRT (Hostage Rescue Team) issue has a civilian MSRP of $3,363.00,  But the tolerances on it are so tight, it takes some breaking-in just to be able to rack the slide easily!

My 1911 is the Sig Nightmare.  I chose it because it takes the standard 1911 design and improves some of the ergonomics.  Plus, the black and silver colors just appeal to me.  Comes with an 8rd mag and 7rd mag.  I also got a free soft Sig pistol case at the time.  I added a few Wilson Combat Elite 8rd mags.



https://www.springfield-armory.com/1911-series-handguns/custom-handguns/1911-professional-45-acp-handgun

Hickok45 goes into great detail on the specs, close tolerances and accuracy of the Springfield Professional.  If $1200 is your budget, then get the most gun with the best reviews you can in that price range.

If this is for range shooting, look at one with adjustable sights.  You should probably try out several 1911s from other owners or rent them at a range if they have.  So many out there, and your preferences may not be similar to others.



I have the Nightmare carry, me and my wife love it. (Its her favorite handgun out of the collection)

aletheuo137

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #658 on: May 20, 2022, 01:14:09 PM »
At 15 yards with my VP9, I can hit avocado grouping at my POA/POI. This is for slow to moderate speed.  So I expected the M45 to do the same or close, I would have been happy with grapefruit size grouping. My low shots were about small jabone grouping. But the POA/POI is what bothered me more. Had it been 5 inches higher and small jabone grouping, I would have accepted that more.  At least my low shots are some what consistent.

At 5 yards and the VP9, I'm tangerine grouping with moderate speed.  For the M45, I was low about 2-3 inches of POA but tangerine grouping.
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drck1000

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #659 on: May 21, 2022, 01:32:43 PM »
At 15 yards with my VP9, I can hit avocado grouping at my POA/POI. This is for slow to moderate speed.  So I expected the M45 to do the same or close, I would have been happy with grapefruit size grouping. My low shots were about small jabone grouping. But the POA/POI is what bothered me more. Had it been 5 inches higher and small jabone grouping, I would have accepted that more.  At least my low shots are some what consistent.

At 5 yards and the VP9, I'm tangerine grouping with moderate speed.  For the M45, I was low about 2-3 inches of POA but tangerine grouping.

So the POA/POI is my issue right now. More training is needed.

At 25 with the VP9, I can hit an index card with 2-3 of 5 shots. The shots off card are to the left of it like 1-3 inches.  With a G19, 5 of 5 are on the index card. This is slow fire only.

I do not plan on buying a holder or like device.
What size "index card?"   8.5" x 11"?  ;D

Assuming the M45 is gear toward combat use and has tolerances associated with that.  What does the Colt description or other reviews mention about stuff like bushing or barrel/slide fitting?  Overall, I would think the 1911 of the $1k-ish MSRP range would be capable of pretty decent groupings.  But maybe not the accuracy expected of custom 1911s of that $2k+ range with tighter fitting and/or tolerances.