Oops meant government (no focus). I want a full size gun. The vp9 and czp10c is more of my "commander" size.

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you already get one of these:
the Officer 1911 is the subcompact variant. Standard barrel length is 3.5 inches

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Commanders have excellent balance and handling.
I had one but sold it because I was stoopid.

my Ruger SR1911 is commander size. not much difference with the government size other than the barrel being .75" shorter.  IWB carry maybe better than a Gov model, otherwise grip is the same. i like having both the Gov and Commander sizes. nice to have options   

i like to look for affordable quality.  Dan Wesson definitely is not cheap, but a little more affordable than the likes of a Wilson Combat or Nighthawk Custom or Les Baer
a couple models that have tempted me and still tempt me when i see one in person for sale at a LGS:
https://danwessonfirearms.com/product/specialist-2/
https://danwessonfirearms.com/product/vigil/

I've seen the Vigil at SEC recently.  i would have bought it, but i'm short on funds and i'm waiting for the Anaconda to get here.  Vigil is aluminum frame
I've never owned nor shot a Dan Wesson anything, so I'm just going on reviews and what i read online.  maybe after handling one i'll have a better opinion on them.
Dan Wesson now associated with CZ, both are known for quality and function.
i would still recommend a Springfield Armory 1911 bc that's what i have experience with.  but Dan Wesson does look like a good 1911.  (and 357 revolver too)
just throwing out some options 

I was shooting next to some people on Sunday who had a DW. I was impressed.
Not only with the pistol but also the gal who was shooting it....she was a good marksman.
It turns out she used to work with my cousin. Hawaii is a small place. Watch your manners.

Just want to add that what's nice about any 1911 is that you can change it up and return it to stock with not too much effort.  Will take a vise, tools and a desire to fix your own stuff.   Have a sig nightmare carry (commander size).   Wanted the bobbed frame and checkered front strap mostly.   Night sights was a plus.  I added an ambi safety and changed grips.   New to me is the external extractor.  Have one on back order for a spare.  So will learn external extractors eventually.  Just ordered a short trigger for it.  See what happens.   Pic:

Tried a dan wesson today. Thanks dogman.

Took some getting used to the safety and the thumb dont reach the slide release. Not an issie cause i power stroke anyways.

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Tried a dan wesson today. Thanks dogman.

Took some getting used to the safety and the thumb dont reach the slide release. Not an issie cause i power stroke anyways.

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For the safety, are you referring to having to work the safety (click off and back on)?  Or how it falls in or affects your grip?  For the latter, there are (or can be) benefits for the position of the safety. 

I also have a difficult time reaching the slide release/catch with my shooting hand (right handed).  There as also many 1911s there that catch/release is "stubborn" as well, like with my dad's AMT 1911 45.  My RIA 1911 is easier.  You're a stroker, but if you're so inclined, you can also utilize your support hand upon reload.  I don't do that, but it's an option if you want to try. 

For the safety, are you referring to having to work the safety (click off and back on)?  Or how it falls in or affects your grip?  For the latter, there are (or can be) benefits for the position of the safety. 

I also have a difficult time reaching the slide release/catch with my shooting hand (right handed).  There as also many 1911s there that catch/release is "stubborn" as well, like with my dad's AMT 1911 45.  My RIA 1911 is easier.  You're a stroker, but if you're so inclined, you can also utilize your support hand upon reload.  I don't do that, but it's an option if you want to try.

I think he’s talking about the slide release.  On a Glock or his VP9 you can hit the slide release with the thumb on your firing hand.  With my 1911 I just hit the slide release as I roll my support hand into position. 

I think he’s talking about the slide release.  On a Glock or his VP9 you can hit the slide release with the thumb on your firing hand.  With my 1911 I just hit the slide release as I roll my support hand into position.

Based on Front Sight, the slide release is only supposed to be used if the mag and chamber are empty.  The slide will remain locked back if you try to rack an empty gun by pulling the slide back.

Instead, pull the slide back to rack/close it.  Their method is to not let the slide slam full force when letting it go forward.  Nor do you ride the slide all the way forward with your hand on it.  Instead, let it go about 1/2 way so it chambers the round and closes all the way forward, but without the nearly-full force of a completely compressed recoil spring.

I've read some articles that say you should count using the slide release in your "rounds fired" total if you're keeping track, in particular if you're dry firing, since the force created by doing that is causing wear and tear on the firearm similar to firing it.  Not sure I agree, but seems logical.

The bottom line is, it doesn't matter where the slide release is located if you don't use it much.   

Tried a dan wesson today. Thanks dogman.

(#1) Took some getting used to the safety and(then #2) the thumb dont reach the slide release. Not an issie cause i power stroke anyways.

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I think he’s talking about the slide release.  On a Glock or his VP9 you can hit the slide release with the thumb on your firing hand.  With my 1911 I just hit the slide release as I roll my support hand into position.

I get what you're saying about the slide release with the 1911.  That's what I was describing. 

Based on Front Sight, the slide release is only supposed to be used if the mag and chamber are empty.  The slide will remain locked back if you try to rack an empty gun by pulling the slide back.

Instead, pull the slide back to rack/close it.  Their method is to not let the slide slam full force when letting it go forward.  Nor do you ride the slide all the way forward with your hand on it.  Instead, let it go about 1/2 way so it chambers the round and closes all the way forward, but without the nearly-full force of a completely compressed recoil spring.

I've read some articles that say you should count using the slide release in your "rounds fired" total if you're keeping track, in particular if you're dry firing, since the force created by doing that is causing wear and tear on the firearm similar to firing it.  Not sure I agree, but seems logical.

The bottom line is, it doesn't matter where the slide release is located if you don't use it much.   

I’m going to put my faith in Larry Vickers, but you do you boo boo

For the safety, are you referring to having to work the safety (click off and back on)?  Or how it falls in or affects your grip?  For the latter, there are (or can be) benefits for the position of the safety. 

I also have a difficult time reaching the slide release/catch with my shooting hand (right handed).  There as also many 1911s there that catch/release is "stubborn" as well, like with my dad's AMT 1911 45.  My RIA 1911 is easier.  You're a stroker, but if you're so inclined, you can also utilize your support hand upon reload.  I don't do that, but it's an option if you want to try.

Safety as in used to not having one. So press out and clickity click. Then duuummmaaaahhhhhh.

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Safety as in used to not having one. So press out and clickity click. Then duuummmaaaahhhhhh.

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Yeah, I can see that.  I don't shoot my 1911s very often.  Same or similar for my CZ Shadow.  For production, you have to start with hammer down and DA first shot.  That takes some adjustment, especially since I would say 90% of my pistol shooting (maybe more) is Glock or similar.  Like anything you have reps on and then change.  I notice similar "brain fart" type stuff on the rare occasion I shoot my HK USP which has the paddle mag release.  Even when at the bullseye range and slow and controlled firing (absolutely no stress), I sometimes find myself fumbling with the damn mag release. 

I’m going to put my faith in Larry Vickers, but you do you boo boo

I can only report what was being taught at the Defensive Handgun course. 

If I'd saved my money and learned proper 1911 operation from YouTube videos, I'd be as smart as you. Yogi.

 

Yeah, I can see that.  I don't shoot my 1911s very often.  Same or similar for my CZ Shadow.  For production, you have to start with hammer down and DA first shot.  That takes some adjustment, especially since I would say 90% of my pistol shooting (maybe more) is Glock or similar.  Like anything you have reps on and then change.  I notice similar "brain fart" type stuff on the rare occasion I shoot my HK USP which has the paddle mag release.  Even when at the bullseye range and slow and controlled firing (absolutely no stress), I sometimes find myself fumbling with the damn mag release.

Funny story, on 1 of our beginning dates with my now wife (was just boning at the time), I took her to Honolulu Firearms.  I shot a 1911 and tried letting the hammer down like how I see in so many movies.  I was not a gun owner at the time.  Well the gun fired with my thumb right behind the slide.  It was pointed down range.

And of course, cannot show pain, especially early on.  So she had no clue I jacked up my thumb.  By the time we got into the car it was swollen, which I didn't show her.  It didn't really hurt that much.  Later that day it was sore and I was unable to bend it.  I ended up losing the thumbnail later.

they're in stock
https://atlasgunworks.com/product/nyx-optics-order-now-pistol-1#product_detail

Lol

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Funny story, on 1 of our beginning dates with my now wife (was just boning at the time), I took her to Honolulu Firearms.  I shot a 1911 and tried letting the hammer down like how I see in so many movies.  I was not a gun owner at the time.  Well the gun fired with my thumb right behind the slide.  It was pointed down range.

And of course, cannot show pain, especially early on.  So she had no clue I jacked up my thumb.  By the time we got into the car it was swollen, which I didn't show her.  It didn't really hurt that much.  Later that day it was sore and I was unable to bend it.  I ended up losing the thumbnail later.

Did you ever tell her that story?   

Lol

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Don't forget the Loves bread. 

I forgot to add after trying the Dan Wesson, the recoil didn't seem as snappy compared to other 9mm pistols.  Is this common with all 1911's, or just a DW?

So the pick up was the same, if not can be faster with more getting used to it.  Which I thought the recoil would be more due to the bigger caliber.