First 1911 in 45 (Read 150887 times)

Bota-CS1

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #240 on: September 23, 2021, 04:46:21 PM »
No one is coming, it’s up to us.

Legislation should never be about depriving law abiding citizens of something, but rather taking those things away from criminals.

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #241 on: September 23, 2021, 05:22:04 PM »
U win.

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drck1000

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #242 on: September 23, 2021, 05:30:03 PM »
Wow
Is that .45 ACP gonna be enough when you miss?   ???

 :rofl:

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #243 on: September 23, 2021, 05:43:36 PM »
Is that .45 ACP gonna be enough when you miss?   ???

 :rofl:
Throw gun is the next step.

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macsak

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #244 on: September 23, 2021, 06:51:51 PM »

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #245 on: September 26, 2021, 08:17:13 AM »
Since the Colt comes with 2 mags (8rders), does anyone make a mag extension to 10rds? Google didn't have anything.  Only mag extensions for 2011's.

drck1000

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #246 on: September 26, 2021, 10:12:18 AM »
Since the Colt comes with 2 mags (8rders), does anyone make a mag extension to 10rds? Google didn't have anything.  Only mag extensions for 2011's.
I was looking at some videos to see which mags they came with.  Some videos said 7 rd Wilson.  My 8 rd Wilson mags have a removable basepad.  That said, I haven’t looked for, or seen 2 rd mag extensions. 

I also have some VERY old Colt 7 rd mags that the base plate is fixed.  I can’t imagine that your new Colt would come with those though, but just mentioning that there are many mag brands that come like that. 

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #247 on: September 27, 2021, 08:43:17 AM »
I was looking at some videos to see which mags they came with.  Some videos said 7 rd Wilson.  My 8 rd Wilson mags have a removable basepad.  That said, I haven’t looked for, or seen 2 rd mag extensions. 

I also have some VERY old Colt 7 rd mags that the base plate is fixed.  I can’t imagine that your new Colt would come with those though, but just mentioning that there are many mag brands that come like that.

Thanks for the info, IDK if it was just my Google-Fu that was weak and couldn't find mag extensions.  I ordered 3 Wilson 10rd with the upgraded tabs or something. Basically the top of the mag (metal part) starts to spread after repeated dropping.  So the ones that are like $3 more per mag have a longer life, as in the top doesn't spread as quickly.  And I do plan on dropping the mag in the dirt for skill builders or classes.

Then depending on what the pistol comes with or if I find on the shelf at LGS, I will pick up 2 more.  Then prob sell the 8rd or 7rders.

WTF?Shane

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #248 on: September 27, 2021, 11:30:05 AM »
Did you end up finding a M45A1?

drck1000

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #249 on: September 27, 2021, 11:43:14 AM »
Thanks for the info, IDK if it was just my Google-Fu that was weak and couldn't find mag extensions.  I ordered 3 Wilson 10rd with the upgraded tabs or something. Basically the top of the mag (metal part) starts to spread after repeated dropping.  So the ones that are like $3 more per mag have a longer life, as in the top doesn't spread as quickly.  And I do plan on dropping the mag in the dirt for skill builders or classes.

Then depending on what the pistol comes with or if I find on the shelf at LGS, I will pick up 2 more.  Then prob sell the 8rd or 7rders.
Before you sell the 7/8 rounders, I would say shoot and test with the 10 rders first.

My 1911 (was my dad's) doesn't like the Colt mags with the metal follower.  That said, I dunno how old those mags are and how much use they got.  My dad shot it a bunch of times when I would go to the range with him, but the mags do seem well used.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #250 on: September 27, 2021, 11:44:40 AM »
I was looking at some videos to see which mags they came with.  Some videos said 7 rd Wilson.  My 8 rd Wilson mags have a removable basepad.  That said, I haven’t looked for, or seen 2 rd mag extensions. 

I also have some VERY old Colt 7 rd mags that the base plate is fixed.  I can’t imagine that your new Colt would come with those though, but just mentioning that there are many mag brands that come like that.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1006057473?pid=114224

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2159362438?pid=922901

Looks like compatibility is the main thing to look into.  When you use an extension, the original spring may not have enough tension to feed the last 1-2 rds.  We all know how squishy the  spring on a 1911 mag is compared to a Glock or Sig P226 mag.  Not a lot of "extra tension" left when the last rd of a 7 or 8 rd mag is fed.

Most of the extended 1911 mags I see are complete factory mags, and I assume the parts are all engineered and tested so they work together. 

If you extend the capacity of a magazine, be sure the spring and follower match the new base plate and mag length.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #251 on: September 27, 2021, 12:24:36 PM »
Did you end up finding a M45A1?

Yup, Prime Sports ETA is 7-11 weeks now.  I put deposit down.

I wanna run it at a skill builder.  But not straight out of the box of course.

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #252 on: September 27, 2021, 12:28:32 PM »
Before you sell the 7/8 rounders, I would say shoot and test with the 10 rders first.

My 1911 (was my dad's) doesn't like the Colt mags with the metal follower.  That said, I dunno how old those mags are and how much use they got.  My dad shot it a bunch of times when I would go to the range with him, but the mags do seem well used.

As I watched more vids about them, I'm like WTF, sooooooooooooooooooooooo many problems.  On paper, if I want a 45ACP, I should really go with the Glock or HK one.  And not a 1911 which is very old tech and has reached the furthest it can go.

But heck, I like the look, the history, the feel, etc...So my money to spend on what makes me happy.  Even though the brain is telling me otherwise.  It's like why you stay with that crazy gf, when all your friends are telling you to dump her.  The heart trumps the brain.

ren

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #253 on: September 27, 2021, 12:47:46 PM »
As I watched more vids about them, I'm like WTF, sooooooooooooooooooooooo many problems.  On paper, if I want a 45ACP, I should really go with the Glock or HK one.  And not a 1911 which is very old tech and has reached the furthest it can go.

But heck, I like the look, the history, the feel, etc...So my money to spend on what makes me happy.  Even though the brain is telling me otherwise.  It's like why you stay with that crazy gf, when all your friends are telling you to dump her.  The heart trumps the brain.
The 1911 shouldnt be looked at as a piece of meat. Plastic surgery HKs perhaps but 1911 is handcrafted steel.
Deeds Not Words

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #254 on: September 27, 2021, 01:02:29 PM »
The 1911 shouldnt be looked at as a piece of meat. Plastic surgery HKs perhaps but 1911 is handcrafted steel.

Yups. I also just watched a vid about dropping the slide on empty mag on a 1911 from Wilson Combat.  Don't do it.

Next gotta look up dry firing. I remember being at the range and 1 guy was showing another guy his 1911. And when the other guy dry fired it, he made sure the hammer didn't hit.

stangzilla

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #255 on: September 27, 2021, 01:12:57 PM »
sure the 1911 is an old design, but that is the beauty of the 1911
it is over 100 year old design, but is still in great demand today.  and good ones fetch a very hefty price tag
not all 1911's are equal in dependability.  cheap ones will fail just like cheap polymer guns will fail too. while good 1911's that are in the $1k and up range will work as good if not better than a polymer handgun off the shelf from a big name manufacturer.  of course you will pay a good bit of coin for a better, and not entry level, 1911.  but you know what they say, "you gotta pay to play"
every gun has its place and its purpose.  there may be better options for a SHTF sidearm with more capacity, lighter weight, but the 1911 is an iconic American pistol that will always be relevant in some degree
sometimes we want something that isn't what the military uses currently, or something that doesn't have high capacity, or we are not going to carry or use in self defense situation.  but we want something bc we just want it, for whatever your reason is.  and thats the beauty of being a gun guy/gal, get whatever makes you happy.   :shaka:

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #256 on: September 27, 2021, 01:45:54 PM »
So what are some do's and don'ts that a noob should know?  Google has so many articles. 1 guy says OK, another says no. Wilson Combat didn't have a vid about dry firing, like how they said don't drop slide on empty mag. I would assume they're a good entity to listen to.  Like not some random article writer.

I dry fire my vp9 with no snap caps all the time. Same goes with releasing slide on empty mag. IDK if this is good or bad for this particular gun.  Never looked into it.

drck1000

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #257 on: September 27, 2021, 01:49:09 PM »
As I watched more vids about them, I'm like WTF, sooooooooooooooooooooooo many problems.  On paper, if I want a 45ACP, I should really go with the Glock or HK one.  And not a 1911 which is very old tech and has reached the furthest it can go.

But heck, I like the look, the history, the feel, etc...So my money to spend on what makes me happy.  Even though the brain is telling me otherwise.  It's like why you stay with that crazy gf, when all your friends are telling you to dump her.  The heart trumps the brain.
Like mentioned previously, get what makes you happy.  I personally think 1911s are high maintenance, or at least relatively high compared to other handguns.  I still own them and enjoy shooting them.  I also still very much want a nicer 1911 one day. 

Yups. I also just watched a vid about dropping the slide on empty mag on a 1911 from Wilson Combat.  Don't do it.

Next gotta look up dry firing. I remember being at the range and 1 guy was showing another guy his 1911. And when the other guy dry fired it, he made sure the hammer didn't hit.
You had to go there.   :rofl:

drck1000

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #258 on: September 27, 2021, 01:52:45 PM »
So what are some do's and don'ts that a noob should know?  Google has so many articles. 1 guy says OK, another says no. Wilson Combat didn't have a vid about dry firing, like how they said don't drop slide on empty mag. I would assume they're a good entity to listen to.  Like not some random article writer.

I dry fire my vp9 with no snap caps all the time. Same goes with releasing slide on empty mag. IDK if this is good or bad for this particular gun.  Never looked into it.
Watch out for the idiot mark.  Some really nice 1911s that I've seen have them.  All my 1911s are shooters, or borderline beaters, so whatevahs. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #259 on: September 27, 2021, 02:32:28 PM »
So what are some do's and don'ts that a noob should know?  Google has so many articles. 1 guy says OK, another says no. Wilson Combat didn't have a vid about dry firing, like how they said don't drop slide on empty mag. I would assume they're a good entity to listen to.  Like not some random article writer.

I dry fire my vp9 with no snap caps all the time. Same goes with releasing slide on empty mag. IDK if this is good or bad for this particular gun.  Never looked into it.

RIM FIRE CARTRIDGES:
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Generally speaking, it isn't wise to repeatedly squeeze the trigger of an unloaded rim-fire handgun.
That includes both semi-autos and revolvers. The reason is that the firing pin is designed to strike
the soft, metal alloy rim of the cartridge. Without a cartridge in the chamber, the firing pin strikes
the hard steel chamber and cause damage.

If you happened to have pulled the trigger on your rim-fire pistol, don't panic. It's not likely that you
damaged anything. Due to the design, these handguns are just more prone to damage by dryfire.

Additionally, you should probably refrain from pulling the trigger on unloaded older single-action revolvers.

CENTER FIRE CARTRIDGES:
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Dry firing a center-fire semi-auto or revolver is entirely safe. The firing pin does not strike anything,
so it is not in danger of damage. Companies such as Glock and Sig Sauer state on their websites
state that dry firing their center-fire handguns is safe. They recommend using a snap cap or dummy 
if conducting a “significant” amount of dry fire.

Even so, dry firing an empty gun limits the benefit of practice.  Better to use dummy rounds/Snap Caps.  That gives you the practice of loading mags and potentially clearing malfunctions.  Since you have to rack the slide for the next trigger pull no matter what, might as well eject a dummy round for the "realism" of ejecting and loading rounds.

If you aren't sure, it's best to get the manufacturer's specific recommendations before you do any dry fire. 

P.S.  If you have a Glock, you can try to avoid dry firing ll you want, but you'll have to eventually.  When cleaning, first you have to clear the gun and check the chamber -- that cocks the striker.  Then, when ready to remove the slide, you have to pull the trigger.  No way around this.  Failure to pull the trigger keeps the slide from freely moving past the rails.  This is considered one of Glock's worst safety design flaws, as someone cleaning the gun could have a round in the chamber.  Pulling the trigger creates a dangerous ND situation.  All other handguns I have do not require the trigger to be pulled for disassembly.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw