First 1911 in 45 (Read 150913 times)

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #380 on: February 08, 2022, 09:30:21 PM »
I never used to see lubrication problems but just recently I encountered 2 people who had inadequate lubrication.
It just seemed like common sense to oil up your gun.
What happened to common sense?
AK happened.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #381 on: February 09, 2022, 12:50:41 AM »
I never used to see lubrication problems but just recently I encountered 2 people who had inadequate lubrication.
It just seemed like common sense to oil up your gun.
What happened to common sense?

If the YouTuber that showed them how to reassemble their guns didn't go into how to oil it, well, that must not be important!   :geekdanc: :shaka:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #382 on: February 09, 2022, 09:16:33 AM »
Ed Zachery!

From the ammo to the mags, there are compatibility issues with some 1911s that are easy to correct by using another brand or version.

Also, many handguns no longer need much breaking-in beyond the first 100-200 rounds -- that's pretty much just a function test.  With certain 1911's, the fit is so tight, it takes 500-1000 rds to break it in properly.  That process ensures the metal-on-metal parts are properly worn and have the right amount of friction.

Knowing that. it's conceivable the malfunctions witnessed may have been the result of inadequate lubrication, too.

CMO, if you see the 1911 guy again, ask if he's still having malfunctions.  I bet over time, he's seeing them less frequently.  Also, ask if he's still using the same ammo.  Maybe recommend he try something else to test.

If he calls the manufacturer to ask about sending it in for testing and/or fixing, they will grill him on details of ammo and mags.  He'll need all the specs when he calls.  Once they have that, they will try to get him to experiment with other, recommended brands/specs.  It might be worth him calling just to get the recommended products from them.  It might at least eliminate his choices as the cause if problems persist.

Just thinking out loud.  As I said -- don't blame the gun -- at least not until you know it's the gun!   :geekdanc:

I doubt he will do any of these. The jams were solved by tap rack and IIRC was 2-3 times during the entire skill builder and didn't begin until half way thru. 

Inspector

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #383 on: February 09, 2022, 11:21:07 AM »
I've been shooting colt 45 autos for over 40 years.
Most malfunctions are ammo related.
Usually reloads.
If you would just quit loading the bullets in backwards you wouldn’t have that problem!  :rofl:

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SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #384 on: February 09, 2022, 11:22:37 AM »
If you would just quit loading the bullets in backwards you wouldn’t have that problem!  :rofl:

The “other” white meat

U mean loading the heads in backwards. :rofl:

Inspector

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #385 on: February 09, 2022, 11:24:37 AM »
U mean loading the heads in backwards. :rofl:

sdaeh

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DocMercy

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #386 on: February 09, 2022, 11:43:12 AM »
I read through half the posts in this thread, and can't figure out if CMO has a 1911 weapon that has been picked up at local LGS with an approved PTA. If not, here is another weapon to add to da confusion. The Smith & Weston 1911 .45ACP Performance Center has not been mentioned yet. Price is around $1600 with 8-rd mags.



It looks like a Gucci gun, and would fit in nicely with the other PC guns in my safe. Except, I can't figure out whether to get this or a Wilson Combat model.

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #387 on: February 09, 2022, 12:22:19 PM »
I read through half the posts in this thread, and can't figure out if CMO has a 1911 weapon that has been picked up at local LGS with an approved PTA. If not, here is another weapon to add to da confusion. The Smith & Weston 1911 .45ACP Performance Center has not been mentioned yet. Price is around $1600 with 8-rd mags.



It looks like a Gucci gun, and would fit in nicely with the other PC guns in my safe. Except, I can't figure out whether to get this or a Wilson Combat model.

I ordered 1 and dropped a down payment for the M45A1 back in September. I was told 8-10 week ETA.  As of today, it still has not arrived. So I asked the LGS if I should just go to Gun Broker because they had a few around $2400 which is reasonable. The ones going for $3K+ are not reasonable IMO because for a little more, I could get a Night Hawk which is way better quality.  LGS said his dealer has 1 in stock, but he has to fullfill a minimum purchase order 1st. Which the LGS is close to doing.  If this time isn't met, then I will ask for a refund and go GB route.

This would be a training and HD gun, so I'm not 1 to Gucci it out or look to buy a Gucci 1911 in 45.  But who knows, after training with it, I might like the VP9 better and stick with that as the home defense pistol.

esk808

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #388 on: February 09, 2022, 12:27:48 PM »
I read through half the posts in this thread, and can't figure out if CMO has a 1911 weapon that has been picked up at local LGS with an approved PTA. If not, here is another weapon to add to da confusion. The Smith & Weston 1911 .45ACP Performance Center has not been mentioned yet. Price is around $1600 with 8-rd mags.



It looks like a Gucci gun, and would fit in nicely with the other PC guns in my safe. Except, I can't figure out whether to get this or a Wilson Combat model.

I would suggest Wilson Combat over the SW 1911.  Maybe consider Les Baer.

Really nice pistols at www.migunslingers.com.
I got 4 pistols from George Talia, the proprietor of this site.
George can special order a pistol from Les Baer, Wilson Combat, Nighthawk, etc. which is cheaper than ordering directly from the manufacturer's site.
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changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #389 on: February 09, 2022, 01:20:09 PM »
Also depends on what you plan on using the 1911 for. My usage is for HD and range skill builders/classes.  I will not CCW this pistol as it is too big and heavy.

Another consideration is if you do use a pistol for self defense regardless of where, it may be confiscated as evidence and who knows when  you will get it back.  So would you want a $3K+ pistol to be in evidence rusting away for years?  And the prosecution may ask you questions on why you bought X pistol with Y mods to it.  More work for your defense attorney to do, IMO.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #390 on: February 09, 2022, 01:23:15 PM »
Also depends on what you plan on using the 1911 for. My usage is for HD and range skill builders/classes.  I will not CCW this pistol as it is too big and heavy.

Another consideration is if you do use a pistol for self defense regardless of where, it may be confiscated as evidence and who knows when  you will get it back.  So would you want a $3K+ pistol to be in evidence rusting away for years?  And the prosecution may ask you questions on why you bought X pistol with Y mods to it.  More work for your defense attorney to do, IMO.

A:  "Why?  Because I don't know what kind of weapons my attackers might have.  I didn't want to be caught out-gunned, so I got the best, most reliable one I could afford.  I keep hearing that there's no second place prize in a gunfight.  I simply didn't want my gun to be the reason I was second."

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

stangzilla

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #391 on: February 09, 2022, 01:24:45 PM »
I totally understand wanting to get exactly what you want.  that Colt 1911 is a nice pistol, and the military ties make it an interesting 1911.  being military uses it or used it, must be very reliable
I've also walked into a LGS wanting a certain firearm and then walking out purchasing something else, sometimes its better than what I originally wanted. 
being I am a Springfield 1911 guy, I'll suggest this VIcker's Tactical 1911 https://www.springfield-armory.com/1911-series-handguns/1911-vickers-tactical-handguns/   it's basically a Loaded Operator with several upgrades.  I think it's well worth the money $1495 MSRP it's pretty good price for what you get
my Long Beach Operator is basically a Loaded Operator with some upgrades, although not as much upgrades as the VIckers one.  for only like $100 more than my gun, the VIckers one is a good deal.  I've put at least 600 rounds thru my Long Beach Operator so far and not 1 malfunction.  I also have the older Range Officer Operator which was around $700-ish at the time, with more rounds thru it and the same, not 1 malfunction.  both using Mecgar mags.  I've used FMJ ammo, JHP, and reloaded JHP and FMJ all reliable.

I hope you get that Colt 1911 you want, but maybe keep a Springfield as option B or C
good luck   :shaka:

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #392 on: February 09, 2022, 11:09:02 PM »
I totally understand wanting to get exactly what you want.  that Colt 1911 is a nice pistol, and the military ties make it an interesting 1911.  being military uses it or used it, must be very reliable
I've also walked into a LGS wanting a certain firearm and then walking out purchasing something else, sometimes its better than what I originally wanted. 
being I am a Springfield 1911 guy, I'll suggest this VIcker's Tactical 1911 https://www.springfield-armory.com/1911-series-handguns/1911-vickers-tactical-handguns/   it's basically a Loaded Operator with several upgrades.  I think it's well worth the money $1495 MSRP it's pretty good price for what you get
my Long Beach Operator is basically a Loaded Operator with some upgrades, although not as much upgrades as the VIckers one.  for only like $100 more than my gun, the VIckers one is a good deal.  I've put at least 600 rounds thru my Long Beach Operator so far and not 1 malfunction.  I also have the older Range Officer Operator which was around $700-ish at the time, with more rounds thru it and the same, not 1 malfunction.  both using Mecgar mags.  I've used FMJ ammo, JHP, and reloaded JHP and FMJ all reliable.

I hope you get that Colt 1911 you want, but maybe keep a Springfield as option B or C
good luck   :shaka:
The Emissary caught my eye. Tacticool.

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drck1000

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #393 on: February 10, 2022, 01:55:55 AM »
SNIP

Another consideration is if you do use a pistol for self defense regardless of where, it may be confiscated as evidence and who knows when  you will get it back.  So would you want a $3K+ pistol to be in evidence rusting away for years?  And the prosecution may ask you questions on why you bought X pistol with Y mods to it.  More work for your defense attorney to do, IMO.
Check out Salient then. Have to check the verbiage, but if used in a SD situation, they’ll provide a replacement firearm for the reason you mentioned above. No idea if anyone has gone that route though.

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #394 on: February 11, 2022, 12:31:12 PM »
Check out Salient then. Have to check the verbiage, but if used in a SD situation, they’ll provide a replacement firearm for the reason you mentioned above. No idea if anyone has gone that route though.

No Safariland holsters for the Emissary yet.

I checked out Salient, and those puppies are out of my price range.  But look super tacticool. I'm going to the LGS to check on a better time frame this sat when we pick up Mrs. CMO's 22. So maybe the SIG Scorpion I will ask about.  The Springfield RO or TRP is nice, but my WML is already FDE, so gotta matchy matchy, I don't wanna buy a black WML and have to bother selling/trading the FDE one.  Because at that point, I would also have to get a new holster. So getting another WML would just be 1 more thing I gotta do.

drck1000

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #395 on: February 12, 2022, 07:45:55 AM »
No Safariland holsters for the Emissary yet.

I checked out Salient, and those puppies are out of my price range.  But look super tacticool. I'm going to the LGS to check on a better time frame this sat when we pick up Mrs. CMO's 22. So maybe the SIG Scorpion I will ask about.  The Springfield RO or TRP is nice, but my WML is already FDE, so gotta matchy matchy, I don't wanna buy a black WML and have to bother selling/trading the FDE one.  Because at that point, I would also have to get a new holster. So getting another WML would just be 1 more thing I gotta do.
Salients were out of my price range too, but sometimes just gotta go with it. 

If you're super worried about that, I can trade a lightly used X300 Ultra in black for your FDE. 

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #396 on: February 12, 2022, 03:41:50 PM »
Salients were out of my price range too, but sometimes just gotta go with it. 

If you're super worried about that, I can trade a lightly used X300 Ultra in black for your FDE.
Will keep in mind. Thanks.

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DocMercy

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #397 on: February 15, 2022, 12:55:16 PM »
Assuming CMO has a nice tax refund coming his way, cancel your existing 1911 order, and buy this Golden Gun 1911.



This will dazzle any attacker in HI, and can even serve as a Texas Hold 'em All-In stake in a Vegas poker game.

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #398 on: February 15, 2022, 01:28:15 PM »
Assuming CMO has a nice tax refund coming his way, cancel your existing 1911 order, and buy this Golden Gun 1911.



This will dazzle any attacker in HI, and can even serve as a Texas Hold 'em All-In stake in a Vegas poker game.

I'm looking more at the $500,000 meteorite 1911.

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #399 on: March 27, 2022, 07:54:18 PM »
Its on the way. Won the bid on GB.

Then 2 week wait.

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