First 1911 in 45 (Read 151025 times)

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #720 on: July 25, 2022, 12:47:36 PM »
i own no poof poof ammo...

Or 45ACP HD ammo that is supposed to be FMJ. No focus

drck1000

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #721 on: July 25, 2022, 10:32:10 PM »
i own no poof poof ammo...
moar stopping powah

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #722 on: August 01, 2022, 08:53:28 AM »


Synopses:

He borrowed the pistol from someone who spent almost $5K on it. Ripoff IMO.  The reasoning is it's a "Colt Custom Shop" gun.  Only reason to spend this much on it is if it's some famous Marines pistol. But those can go for higher. And brand new CCS guns are going for this rate.  But this isn't a true CCS gun. True CCS M45A1 which haven't been made in a while come like the milspec ones, but u get a nice green pelican case.

This sounds like it was a regular Colt 1911 and someone sent it in to colt to upgrade the parts to make it a M45A1.  But by doing so, they also added in extra non milspec parts like a magwell and no ambi safety.  Colt doesn't make these in their CCS from scratch. I tried to have them make me when I was looking for one. You gotta send in what you got and they will upgrade it to  a M45A1. Kind of like how Taran does for Glocks or Agency Arms, etc...

So they say it's worth about retail $2200, which I agree with.  But the OG owner messed up this gun and the new owner got ripped off.  The CCS isn't like a Wilson Combat or Staccato custom made guns. Which I think Syndicate is confused about.  Colt calls it their CCS, but it's not a true M45 custom fit (Les Baer, etc... type). So even my M45 rattles. Which it should because it's more milspec. The slide makes noise when I move it from side to side. And when I make an up and down motion with the entire gun, I hear that loop moving and making a sound. That loop you put the mag release thru when disassembling that's attached to the barrels chamber end.  I also can remove the bushing by hand. he mentions a true custom 1911, you need the tool cause it's so tight.

A point he brought up was that the milspec ones are going to rattle because you want debris to fall out since it is a military gun.  He compared this colt to his 9mm 1911 which has zero rattle.

So in the end, the owner should have got a Nighthawk for the price he paid.  Or he could have went on GB and got something for much less. Like me, if I was getting above the $3K mark, I would go with something better (Wilson, Nighthawk, etc...). Less than $3K, I'm OK with.  Even if it was a true green box CCS, I wouldn't spend $5K on it, even as a collector.  I don't think he was collecting it because he allowed Syndicate to shoot it.  Which makes me think he realized he got ripped off cause prior to that, the owner hasn't shot it either. 

drck1000

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #723 on: August 01, 2022, 08:57:57 AM »
I'll watch the video later, but $5k for a production gun that was "improved"? 

I guess that's what a Salient or even Agency Arms are to Glock.  I was getting quite tempted with the A/A Ronin edition though and those are in the $3000-3800 range!  :o

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #724 on: August 01, 2022, 01:27:22 PM »
Forgot to mention the biggest part which Syndicate also mentioned. There is no way to rack the slide 1 handed. The Novak rear sight doesn't have a ledge. Which for a fighting handgun, this is a HUGE thing IMO and easily solved.  Even as a mediocre shooter, I took multiple SB that we did 1 handed racking (rack on your belt or holster).  I don't see how this was overlooked by the Marines.

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #725 on: September 07, 2022, 12:29:05 PM »
Gonna run her again at this Sundays HRA combo skill builder. So far about 500rds without cleaning. I will just oil like how I normally do before shooting. I'll post update. They say to bring 75rds, I will shoot more at the open shoot to get the round count test higher.

ren

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #726 on: September 07, 2022, 05:01:55 PM »


Synopses:

He borrowed the pistol from someone who spent almost $5K on it. Ripoff IMO.  The reasoning is it's a "Colt Custom Shop" gun.  Only reason to spend this much on it is if it's some famous Marines pistol. But those can go for higher. And brand new CCS guns are going for this rate.  But this isn't a true CCS gun. True CCS M45A1 which haven't been made in a while come like the milspec ones, but u get a nice green pelican case.

This sounds like it was a regular Colt 1911 and someone sent it in to colt to upgrade the parts to make it a M45A1.  But by doing so, they also added in extra non milspec parts like a magwell and no ambi safety.  Colt doesn't make these in their CCS from scratch. I tried to have them make me when I was looking for one. You gotta send in what you got and they will upgrade it to  a M45A1. Kind of like how Taran does for Glocks or Agency Arms, etc...

So they say it's worth about retail $2200, which I agree with.  But the OG owner messed up this gun and the new owner got ripped off.  The CCS isn't like a Wilson Combat or Staccato custom made guns. Which I think Syndicate is confused about.  Colt calls it their CCS, but it's not a true M45 custom fit (Les Baer, etc... type). So even my M45 rattles. Which it should because it's more milspec. The slide makes noise when I move it from side to side. And when I make an up and down motion with the entire gun, I hear that loop moving and making a sound. That loop you put the mag release thru when disassembling that's attached to the barrels chamber end.  I also can remove the bushing by hand. he mentions a true custom 1911, you need the tool cause it's so tight.

A point he brought up was that the milspec ones are going to rattle because you want debris to fall out since it is a military gun.  He compared this colt to his 9mm 1911 which has zero rattle.

So in the end, the owner should have got a Nighthawk for the price he paid.  Or he could have went on GB and got something for much less. Like me, if I was getting above the $3K mark, I would go with something better (Wilson, Nighthawk, etc...). Less than $3K, I'm OK with.  Even if it was a true green box CCS, I wouldn't spend $5K on it, even as a collector.  I don't think he was collecting it because he allowed Syndicate to shoot it.  Which makes me think he realized he got ripped off cause prior to that, the owner hasn't shot it either.

Just sent my slide to this 1911 smith https://kcskustomcreations.com/  He is a retired Marine 2112 and built 1911 MEU (SOC) pistols. Cheaper. https://kcskustomcreations.com/meu-soc-variations-and-price-list/

Funny video. "verbally said" is there any other way to say something? Do all people who review firearms have a beard ala ZZ Top? That whole video could have been done in 5 mins. SO much fluff. Do we really need ZZ Top guy there?
« Last Edit: September 12, 2022, 12:13:40 PM by ren »
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changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #727 on: September 12, 2022, 11:16:49 AM »
So ran another 100 this last SB and no issues. But with the range being closed all Oct and possibly longer if the renovations take longer, a dirty gun will bother me.  I might end up cleaning her.  So 600rds over the course of about 3 months is a guud enuff place to stop the "test".

oldfart

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #728 on: September 12, 2022, 11:44:15 AM »
So ran another 100 this last SB and no issues. But with the range being closed all Oct and possibly longer if the renovations take longer, a dirty gun will bother me.  I might end up cleaning her.  So 600rds over the course of about 3 months is a guud enuff place to stop the "test".
===
So, at the last SB, did you B some S?
 :rofl:
What, Me Worry?

drck1000

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #729 on: September 12, 2022, 12:15:10 PM »
So ran another 100 this last SB and no issues. But with the range being closed all Oct and possibly longer if the renovations take longer, a dirty gun will bother me.  I might end up cleaning her.  So 600rds over the course of about 3 months is a guud enuff place to stop the "test".
#skillbuilderworn  ;D

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #730 on: October 17, 2022, 09:13:39 AM »
The gun sitting not being shot and all dirty has been bothering me since mid Sept.  I cleaned her.  Who knows when the range will open. Work hasn't even begun yet. Best case scenerio IMO is December.

drck1000

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #731 on: October 17, 2022, 12:21:18 PM »
So ran another 100 this last SB and no issues. But with the range being closed all Oct and possibly longer if the renovations take longer, a dirty gun will bother me.  I might end up cleaning her.  So 600rds over the course of about 3 months is a guud enuff place to stop the "test".
Should've been 1k minimum.   ;D

The gun sitting not being shot and all dirty has been bothering me since mid Sept.  I cleaned her.  Who knows when the range will open. Work hasn't even begun yet. Best case scenerio IMO is December.
So what?  Notice anything in your cleaning and maintenance of the 1911?  Your comparison between VP9? 

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #732 on: October 17, 2022, 01:13:46 PM »
Should've been 1k minimum.   ;D
So what?  Notice anything in your cleaning and maintenance of the 1911?  Your comparison between VP9?

Dissasembly and assembly takes much more effort than the VP9 or any other striker fired.  VP9 can be taken apart for basic cleaning in 5 easy steps.

1) Lock slide back
2) Turn takedown lever
3) Help slide forward and off frame
4) Remove recoil spring from fram
5) Remove barrel

Compared to 1911

1) Push front thing in and turn other thingy plate
2) Remove cap that covers recoil spring
3) Slide plate thingy in other direction
4) Bring slide to the rear and line up takedown hole
5) Push take down pin out
6) Bring slide forward off frame
7) Remove recoil spring
8) Remove barrel

The worst part is when reassembling, lining up the the hole on the frame to that moving part with the hole on it at the chamber end of the barrel.

IDK the names of the parts.


But for cleaning, I notice the FDE takes more scrubbing for the front of the frame. My VP9 is black so I don't notice the carbon build up on her.  I do notice the carbon on the WML for both. So can someone else confirm this is a FDE issue and not a 45ACP powder issue.

So far no "idiot mark". I really don't care cause this gun does go in the dirt, but so far been lucky.

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #733 on: October 17, 2022, 01:14:08 PM »
Should've been 1k minimum.   ;D


Cannot, range to far...I mean range closed.

drck1000

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #734 on: October 17, 2022, 02:17:11 PM »
Dissasembly and assembly takes much more effort than the VP9 or any other striker fired.  VP9 can be taken apart for basic cleaning in 5 easy steps.

1) Lock slide back
2) Turn takedown lever
3) Help slide forward and off frame
4) Remove recoil spring from fram
5) Remove barrel

Compared to 1911

1) Push front thing in and turn other thingy plate
2) Remove cap that covers recoil spring
3) Slide plate thingy in other direction
4) Bring slide to the rear and line up takedown hole
5) Push take down pin out
6) Bring slide forward off frame
7) Remove recoil spring
8) Remove barrel

The worst part is when reassembling, lining up the the hole on the frame to that moving part with the hole on it at the chamber end of the barrel.

IDK the names of the parts.


But for cleaning, I notice the FDE takes more scrubbing for the front of the frame. My VP9 is black so I don't notice the carbon build up on her.  I do notice the carbon on the WML for both. So can someone else confirm this is a FDE issue and not a 45ACP powder issue.

So far no "idiot mark". I really don't care cause this gun does go in the dirt, but so far been lucky.
“Much more” time? Millennial time metric? Haha

For carbon, not positive if finish safe, Boretech C4 is really good for cleaning carbon. Mostly for my SS rifle barrels, but I’ve also used to other AR parts that can be “carbon heavy). Don’t need to, but it helps if one wants to clean baked on carbon.

Lmk if you want to try. I can give you some.

Heavies

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #735 on: October 17, 2022, 04:59:47 PM »
“Much more” time? Millennial time metric? Haha

For carbon, not positive if finish safe, Boretech C4 is really good for cleaning carbon. Mostly for my SS rifle barrels, but I’ve also used to other AR parts that can be “carbon heavy). Don’t need to, but it helps if one wants to clean baked on carbon.

Lmk if you want to try. I can give you some.

Boretech is good stuff inside the barrel. Never thought about trying outside. Wonder if it would be finish safe?

WTF?Shane

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #736 on: October 17, 2022, 05:02:52 PM »
The worst part is when reassembling, lining up the the hole on the frame to that moving part with the hole on it at the chamber end of the barrel.

IDK the names of the parts.

I think it's called the barrel link. I find that pulling the slide assembly back a little bit helps.

Compared to 1911

1) Push front thing spring guide plug in and turn other thingy plate barrel bushing
2) Remove cap that covers recoil spring spring guide plug
3) Slide plate thingy barrel bushing in other direction
4) Bring slide to the rear and line up takedown hole notch
5) Push take down pin slide catch lever out
6) Bring slide forward off frame
7) Remove recoil spring
8) Remove barrel

Tried to fix it for you.  :thumbsup:
« Last Edit: October 17, 2022, 05:10:48 PM by WTF?Shane »

drck1000

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #737 on: October 17, 2022, 05:24:00 PM »
Boretech is good stuff inside the barrel. Never thought about trying outside. Wonder if it would be finish safe?
It’s ok on black nitride finish. Not sure about cerakote. I’ve used it on Area 419 brakes with black nitride finish, as recommended by Area 419.   

ren

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #738 on: October 17, 2022, 06:05:18 PM »
are you going to wax it and apply "ceramic" coating?
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changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #739 on: October 17, 2022, 06:23:20 PM »
I think it's called the barrel link. I find that pulling the slide assembly back a little bit helps.

Tried to fix it for you. 
Need a section for CMO slang.

Thanks.

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