HPD Walk Ins for Registration (Read 27453 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« Reply #60 on: May 10, 2021, 06:22:33 PM »
It's still a sort of appointment system, but now it ties you up for the day, depending on what time you get by how soon you got in line.

Anyone feels this system is better?  I don't think so.

If you come from far away and was unlucky to get a late afternoon slot, wtf do you do in-between?  Your whole day is shot to hell.

Exactly.  I wonder if there's any sign-in process, or if they just hand out appointment slips without any names associated with them?  If they are just handing slips to random people in line, what's to stop disrupters from taking up slots and not showing up?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« Reply #61 on: May 10, 2021, 06:23:55 PM »
Exactly.  I wonder if there's any sign-in process, or if they just hand out appointment slips without any names associated with them?  If they are just handing slips to random people in line, what's to stop disrupters from taking up slots and not showing up?

A disrupter would have to show up physically for one.  Then they would have to show up every day after that and not get recognized.  🙄

aletheuo137

Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« Reply #62 on: May 10, 2021, 06:30:34 PM »
What about people who have appointments from the old system? I'm going in Friday at 10:30am

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dogman

Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« Reply #63 on: May 10, 2021, 06:46:32 PM »
What about people who have appointments from the old system? I'm going in Friday at 10:30am

"Online registration appointments that were made earlier will be honored" from HPD's Firearms web page.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« Reply #64 on: May 10, 2021, 07:00:09 PM »
A disrupter would have to show up physically for one.  Then they would have to show up every day after that and not get recognized.  🙄

Your point?

(MASKS ARE MANDATORY)
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aletheuo137

Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« Reply #65 on: May 10, 2021, 07:13:02 PM »
"Online registration appointments that were made earlier will be honored" from HPD's Firearms web page.
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omnigun

Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« Reply #66 on: May 10, 2021, 07:16:31 PM »
Your point?

(MASKS ARE MANDATORY)

You are wrong.  Or allude to a highly unlikely scenario.  (disrupters)
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macsak

Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« Reply #67 on: May 10, 2021, 07:25:52 PM »
You are wrong.  Or eluding to a highly unlikely scenario.  (disrupters)

reputable private school?
evade or escape from (a danger, enemy, or pursuer), typically in a skillful or cunning way.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« Reply #68 on: May 10, 2021, 08:52:30 PM »
You are wrong.  Or allude to a highly unlikely scenario.  (disrupters)

Why do you insist on arguing over comments you have no way to disprove?

Oh, yeah.  Troll.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« Reply #69 on: May 10, 2021, 10:17:08 PM »
Why do you insist on arguing over comments you have no way to disprove?

Oh, yeah.  Troll.

I just disproved you....

Flapp_Jackson

Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« Reply #70 on: May 10, 2021, 10:20:55 PM »
I just disproved you....

... he said without evidence.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« Reply #71 on: May 10, 2021, 10:29:20 PM »
... he said without evidence.

Can you read?

A disrupter would have to show up physically for one.  Then they would have to show up every day after that and not get recognized.  🙄

Aka that's what's stopping "disrupters"

Flapp_Jackson

Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« Reply #72 on: May 10, 2021, 10:30:19 PM »
Can you read?

Aka that's what's stopping "disrupters"

Masks = anonymity -- aka "not get recognized"

 :sleeping:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« Reply #73 on: May 11, 2021, 06:28:25 AM »
Masks = anonymity -- aka "not get recognized"

 :sleeping:

If that was the case then all crime would be unsolvable right now.    :crazy:

 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« Reply #74 on: May 11, 2021, 12:42:20 PM »
If that was the case then all crime would be unsolvable right now.    :crazy:

 

Is standing in line to get a time slip for an appointment that day with no intention of using it a CRIME?

Are they using facial recognition, witness statements, forensics and crime scene units to learn the identities of "no shows?"

Really stupid comparison.   :crazy: :crazy:  :wacko: :wacko:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« Reply #75 on: May 11, 2021, 01:51:46 PM »
Is standing in line to get a time slip for an appointment that day with no intention of using it a CRIME?

Are they using facial recognition, witness statements, forensics and crime scene units to learn the identities of "no shows?"

Really stupid comparison.   :crazy: :crazy:  :wacko: :wacko:

People could also get an appt and even show up with no firearm to register or PTA to get and no crime has been committed.  They will just be told to leave.

And even if this was against the law, until they are proven guilty in a court of law, they are innocent of said crime.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« Reply #76 on: May 11, 2021, 02:16:50 PM »
People could also get an appt and even show up with no firearm to register or PTA to get and no crime has been committed.  They will just be told to leave.

And even if this was against the law, until they are proven guilty in a court of law, they are innocent of said crime.

The disrupters are not logical creatures.  If they think slowing down the appointments will stop the number of guns being transferred, they are crazy.   :crazy:

Since we know many of these people ARE crazy, showing up a little after 8:00am to grab late morning-afternoon slots is not out of the question.

If they'll camp out online to steal PTA appointments every 10 minutes all day long, they obviously won't be deterred from showing up for a few minutes to pick up time slips.

Shades, a change of clothes, different hats, and masks with various designs and colors are all they need to be another person each day.  Mix and match -- nobody's going to notice.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« Reply #77 on: May 11, 2021, 02:39:52 PM »
People could also get an appt and even show up with no firearm to register or PTA to get and no crime has been committed.  They will just be told to leave.

And even if this was against the law, until they are proven guilty in a court of law, they are innocent of said crime.

If HPD could identify people ONLINE who were scalping and "disrupting", they sure can do it offline.  They have the ability to ban people...or limit the appointments of those "disruptors".  Even if somehow these people potentially existed, a simple ID requirement would quash it without effort.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« Reply #78 on: May 11, 2021, 02:42:03 PM »
If HPD could identify people ONLINE who were scalping and "disrupting", they sure can do it offline.  They have the ability to ban people...or limit the appointments of those "disruptors".  Even if somehow these people potentially existed, a simple ID requirement would quash it without effort.

Yeah, because you need an IP address, name, and home address to pick up a slip.

You don't know much about IT, apparently.

ID requirement also implies a recording and retrieval system to match people in line to previous attempts to get a slip.

Not as simple as you make it sound.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« Reply #79 on: May 11, 2021, 02:42:17 PM »
Masks = anonymity -- aka "not get recognized"

 :sleeping:

Is standing in line to get a time slip for an appointment that day with no intention of using it a CRIME?

Are they using facial recognition, witness statements, forensics and crime scene units to learn the identities of "no shows?"

Really stupid comparison.   :crazy: :crazy:  :wacko: :wacko:

Try read what you wrote  :shaka:
Did I say a single thing about standing in line for appointments?

Your comment said masks somehow provide anonymity anywhere.  You did not list a location unless masks only provide anonymity at HPD registration line. 
Masks = anonymity -- aka "not get recognized"
This is your statement, your statement is false  :shaka: