if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess (Read 17378 times)

omnigun

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2021, 09:57:43 AM »
Ford unveils its $40,000 F-150 Lightning electric pick-up truck with a 300-mile range

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-9598583/Ford-unveils-40-000-F-150-Lightning-electric-pick-truck.html

Yeah saw that,  hope it leads to more electric "cars".  Future looking brighter.

drck1000

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2021, 10:03:13 AM »
I've been seeing a few of those Asian small trucks on the road. Take up way less space on a lane; width and length. Probably get better MPG than western trucks. Most people own trucks now but when you think about how inefficient it is to have a vehicle that weighs several thousand pounds to transport a person that weighs on average 150lbs. In other Asian countries where population is dense they have smaller vehicles i.e. Singapore.

Had a chance to drive those and some smaller "trucks" around in Japan about 5  years ago.  Good fun.  I would say (exaggerating) it's maybe a step above a lawnmower engine.   :rofl:

changemyoil66

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2021, 10:35:54 AM »
Ford unveils its $40,000 F-150 Lightning electric pick-up truck with a 300-mile range

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-9598583/Ford-unveils-40-000-F-150-Lightning-electric-pick-truck.html

Is that the truck that Biden was fake driving?

bass monkey

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2021, 10:43:19 AM »
Had a chance to drive those and some smaller "trucks" around in Japan about 5  years ago.  Good fun.  I would say (exaggerating) it's maybe a step above a lawnmower engine.   :rofl:

Like driving a civic flat bed?

drck1000

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2021, 11:36:24 AM »
Like driving a civic flat bed?
More like a Smart Car flat bed. . .  ;D

Glasser

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2021, 03:06:16 PM »
Is that the truck that Biden was fake driving?

Yes.

ren

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2021, 04:20:14 PM »
there's nothing green about vehicles - EV or not. One thing that people don't mention is all the rubber from tires end up in the air.
Deeds Not Words

Glasser

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2021, 06:04:55 PM »
there's nothing green about vehicles - EV or not. One thing that people don't mention is all the rubber from tires end up in the air.

And rare earth mining for batteries is the new Blood Diamonds. You dont think we stayed in Afghanistan all this time because of Al Qaeda  do you? It is also why China is trying to take over Africa.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/rare-earth-afghanistan-sits-1-trillion-minerals-n196861

No War for Oil! The hippies say, but they have no problem bombing places to get the newest iPhones and a Prius

changemyoil66

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2021, 07:44:47 PM »
But, but, but climate change was proven and we must force all to stop using oil.

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omnigun

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2021, 06:37:47 AM »
And rare earth mining for batteries is the new Blood Diamonds. You dont think we stayed in Afghanistan all this time because of Al Qaeda  do you? It is also why China is trying to take over Africa.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/rare-earth-afghanistan-sits-1-trillion-minerals-n196861

No War for Oil! The hippies say, but they have no problem bombing places to get the newest iPhones and a Prius

War for the greater good👍.  Fighting for natural resources is normal.   Much rather fight over batteries than oil.  Ones better for the environment.

macsak

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2021, 07:10:12 AM »
War for the greater good👍.  Fighting for natural resources is normal.   Much rather fight over batteries than oil.  Ones better for the environment.

wow...

omnigun

bass monkey

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2021, 07:24:19 AM »
More like a Smart Car flat bed. . .  ;D


Never drove a smart car,  but if it's less then a civic & barely over a lawnmower engine that says a lot

stangzilla

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2021, 07:25:34 AM »

mpg's not so good, but who cares    :thumbsup:



ren

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2021, 10:25:19 AM »
War for the greater good👍.  Fighting for natural resources is normal.   Much rather fight over batteries than oil.  Ones better for the environment.

comfortable to say for someone who won't serve in the military
Deeds Not Words

astroboy

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2021, 12:05:24 PM »
there's nothing green about vehicles - EV or not. One thing that people don't mention is all the rubber from tires end up in the air.

The disposal of EV batteries will be a huge problem. Used up batteries cannot be dumped into a land fill. The batteries
will have to be packed up and shipped over seas to be reclaimed.

Once the warranty expires expect to pay thru the nose for a replacement. I have heard that it can cost up to $15k per vehicle.
Price is for parts, labor, and of course disposal of old battery pack. Tesla hopes to reduce the cost down to $5k per vehicle.

drck1000

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2021, 12:08:28 PM »

Never drove a smart car,  but if it's less then a civic & barely over a lawnmower engine that says a lot
Haven’t driven one of those either. I was exaggerating, but probably not that far from reality. Haha

changemyoil66

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2021, 12:09:57 PM »
No one mentioned yet, the smaller your car, the bigger the boto. And the bigger the car, the smaller the boto.

My high school QB, who was also the most popular guy in school drove a small European mini type of POS, like pre 1980's. So tiny that 1 day 4 linemen moved his car by dragging/picking it up.

Glasser

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2021, 12:38:35 PM »
The disposal of EV batteries will be a huge problem. Used up batteries cannot be dumped into a land fill. The batteries
will have to be packed up and shipped over seas to be reclaimed.

Once the warranty expires expect to pay thru the nose for a replacement. I have heard that it can cost up to $15k per vehicle.
Price is for parts, labor, and of course disposal of old battery pack. Tesla hopes to reduce the cost down to $5k per vehicle.

Irony is greenie commies scream about the need to recycle everything but only 10% of a lithium battery can be reclaimed. Ever watch videos of dirt poor Mexicans or Indians combing thru landfills for tech scraps to turn them in hoping they found their boss a couple micrograms on gold tipped terminals? Imagine those poor folks now having to dig in Hazmat unprotected for a couple grams of battery material.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2021, 12:52:14 PM »
No one mentioned yet, the smaller your car, the bigger the boto. And the bigger the car, the smaller the boto.

My high school QB, who was also the most popular guy in school drove a small European mini type of POS, like pre 1980's. So tiny that 1 day 4 linemen moved his car by dragging/picking it up.

I test drove a Geo Metro while car shopping in the mid 80s.  I can't see how anyone who test drove that thing bought it!  Not only can you not see over the car handle of the traffic beside you, if you get hit, you'd barely register as a bug on the other driver's force of impact.

Then I drove the "new" Hyundai Excel and Fiat Rigata.  Both felt like the Geo -- made out of aluminum foil.  The surprise is how much the Fiat cost (3 times the Geo).  Safety has always been a concern with every car I bought.  I settled on a new Mazda B2000 pickup for $7,000 that included A/C and other "extras" -- like the left side mirror!   :wtf:

Needless to say, as we venture into the world of Japanese mini vehicles and Smart Car vehicles, the memories of those 1980 cars make me say, "No!" right off the bat.

Might as well ban all cars and give everyone a Segway...    :geekdanc:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw