if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess (Read 17366 times)

ren

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #60 on: May 22, 2021, 07:34:12 AM »
Guys dont spook OG, they actually tried to google and sorta even did a little reading, thats a noticeably improvement over just making stuff up.

"A large percentage" (95%?) of a lithium battery is recycled is a lie. Anyone can put a lie on the internet and have Google find it.
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Glasser

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #61 on: May 22, 2021, 07:38:29 AM »
95% of a lithium battery is recycled is a lie. Anyone can put a lie on the internet and have Google find it.

Well we know  their lying will  never stop, but encouraging literacy is important. And obviously we also have a lot of work to do on their basic math. baby steps.



ren

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #62 on: May 22, 2021, 07:56:11 AM »
some people need to go beyond just reading sh!t. Maybe our under-the-bridge resident should stop sniffing unicorn farts and understand what is a cathode and anode.
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Glasser

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #63 on: May 22, 2021, 08:07:08 AM »
some people need to go beyond just reading sh!t. Maybe our under-the-bridge resident should stop sniffing unicorn farts and understand what is a cathode and anode.

Can we please just get OG up to elementary education level before we try to move on to high school science?

Glasser

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #64 on: May 22, 2021, 08:24:57 AM »
CA is supposed to love big tech businesses and their money, but they took away independent  'gig' jobs like Uber and Lyft because they decided those people needed to get employee benefits, now they want to finish crushing those jobs in their state.

California to Require Uber, Lyft Drivers to Transition to Electric Vehicles in Latest Climate Change Mandate

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/california-require-uber-lyft-drivers-transition-electric-vehicles-latest-climate-change-mandate/

aletheuo137

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #65 on: May 22, 2021, 09:05:18 AM »
some people need to go beyond just reading sh!t. Maybe our under-the-bridge resident should stop sniffing unicorn farts and understand what is a cathode and anode.
Wow, going old school.

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groveler

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #66 on: May 22, 2021, 11:42:24 AM »
Wow, going old school.

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The cathode is usually fixed biased and heated by a filament and the Anode(plate) has B+ on it.
is that old school enough? :geekdanc:

aletheuo137

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #67 on: May 22, 2021, 12:51:46 PM »
The cathode is usually fixed biased and heated by a filament and the Anode(plate) has B+ on it.
is that old school enough? :geekdanc:
I have a few old tube amps! They sound better than the new amps. Something about that point to point jumpers on the tubes makes a big difference in sound!!

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changemyoil66

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #68 on: May 22, 2021, 05:06:07 PM »
I visited Tesla owner websites and here is what I found:
Battery replacement cost per model

S = $12-15k

X = $14K +

Y = $11-13K

3 = $13K     Replacing only the defective module cost: $5-7K, So says Elon Musk.

I think I will pass on a Tesla.
That's if u gotta replace all the units. Tesla has a 8 year battery warranty. They do say after 8 years only a few might need replacing. So for the model Y, maybe ur spending $3k or so to replace 2-3 units.

Idk what other brand EVs replacement schedule is like.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #69 on: May 22, 2021, 05:41:28 PM »
That's if u gotta replace all the units. Tesla has a 8 year battery warranty. They do say after 8 years only a few might need replacing. So for the model Y, maybe ur spending $3k or so to replace 2-3 units.

Idk what other brand EVs replacement schedule is like.

Maybe.  But that's $3K or so for the few that died this month.  Over some period of time, you'll have to replace them all.

And, if prices are like most things, they'll encourage you to do a full replacement by making it cheaper compared to the $3K repair multiple times.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #70 on: May 24, 2021, 09:21:06 AM »
Tesla's official statement is that the batteries will still work, they just won't be able to hold the same amount of charge. So for their warranty (8 year) to kick in, the battery would have to be at less than 70% efficiency. 

So if 1 car can get 300 miles for all 12 units.  That's about 25 miles per unit at 100%.  So if 3 units are operating at 50% then you lose about 36 miles (12.5 miles per unit loss)  of 300 miles.  That's taking into the fact that the other 9 units are still working at 100% efficiency.  So you don't really need to change the batteries out as in they are not "dead".  You would just get less miles and depending on your usage is if 1 would replace them or not.  For me, I drive about 5,000 miles a year, so someone like me would not spend the money to replace them.

IDK what Prius, Volt, etc... stats for their batteries or warranty are.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #71 on: May 24, 2021, 10:05:45 AM »
Quote
First, they say no fossil fuel cars after 2035.  In the US, we drive
3.2 Trillion miles per year.  Electric cars use ~0.3 kWh/mile.
We'll need to build a 1 GW nuclear plant every 3 weeks starting
tomorrow JUST for the extra electricity to charge the [cars].



p.s. Nuclear energy is perhaps the cleanest form of green energy available that can keep up with our country's energy demands.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

groveler

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #72 on: May 24, 2021, 10:54:09 AM »
I have a few old tube amps! They sound better than the new amps. Something about that point to point jumpers on the tubes makes a big difference in sound!!

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Simple explanation when tubs saturate the waveform "rounds off", with a transistor the waveform distorts.
FETs are the best,  but very underused solution.
 :geekdanc:

groveler

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #73 on: May 24, 2021, 11:09:17 AM »


p.s. Nuclear energy is perhaps the cleanest form of green energy available that can keep up with our country's energy demands.
I completely agree with you on the use of Nuclear energy.
Your posted Video alludes to the problem , but doesn't explicitly state it.
The majority of people are stupid and easily misled.
Every successful person knows that "perceptions are far more powerful than
facts and data".
So we have the constant tension, "we can't live with them and we can't kill them",
I'll add to that, YET.
Perhaps if more people understood that the sun is a rather large Fusion Nuclear reactor,
bombarding you with harmful radiation everyday and all those stars at night are
the same thing, they'd never come out in public again.

Glasser

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #74 on: May 25, 2021, 08:29:01 AM »
Still waiting for them to sign off on Thorium Reactors. Most of those designs are meltdown proof and the waste is almost impossible to use to make weapons. 

https://youtu.be/ZLrt_38LR3A?t=136

eyeeatingfish

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #75 on: May 28, 2021, 10:14:11 PM »
Daihatsu?
We used to have these for running around the taxiways and parking ramps at Boeing field.
They were not Democrat DOT street legal.

Some regulation says you cannot have them unless they are antique or something like that. The exemption is cars over 25 years old so all these Kei trucks you see driving around are 25+ years old. People who sell them here charge something like $7,000 despite the age. Probably easy to work on and relatively simple.
I am thinking of getting one for my kid once they reach driving age.

ren

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #76 on: June 01, 2021, 09:58:34 PM »
Isn't it incredibly inefficient to have a 2000 + pound piece of machinery carry a human weighing a couple hundred pounds? Need more Gigawatts!
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changemyoil66

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #77 on: June 02, 2021, 09:03:03 AM »
Isn't it incredibly inefficient to have a 2000 + pound piece of machinery carry a human weighing a couple hundred pounds? Need more Gigawatts!

But horses fart and cause the ozone to deplete.  :rofl:

drck1000

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #78 on: June 02, 2021, 09:24:08 AM »
But horses fart and cause the ozone to deplete.  :rofl:
Cow farts are 100x worse. . .  :o

 ;D

[no idea if true, b4 Mr. Tourettes chimes in]

 :rofl:

groveler

Re: if we all drove smaller cars we wouldn't be in this mess
« Reply #79 on: June 02, 2021, 10:27:22 AM »
Cow farts are 100x worse. . .  :o

 ;D

[no idea if true, b4 Mr. Tourettes chimes in]

 :rofl:
I have a heifer, mule, and donkey.
It is my many dogs,  that all fart,  that are really bad.
 :shake: