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pistol laser trainer thing
« on: August 27, 2012, 11:59:11 PM »
Has anyone tried this? On cheaperthandirt-butwellrapeyouonshipping , it claims to sit in your barrel and produce a red dot down range when you pull the trigger.

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Re: pistol laser trainer thing
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2012, 04:33:42 AM »
Linky?
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Re: pistol laser trainer thing
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2012, 07:09:21 AM »
I have a SIRT from Next Level.  I think it's pretty good as a training aid.  Not sure if we're talking about the same thing as you could be referring to a SIRT bolt which is a drop in for an AR platform.

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Re: pistol laser trainer thing
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2013, 07:59:34 AM »
FYI guys: SIRT in Pink is on special for May.  $299

http://nextleveltraining.com/content/new-sirt-pink-performer-pg

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Re: pistol laser trainer thing
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2013, 09:56:47 AM »
No. 

SIRT pistol has the look, dimensions, and feel of a real Glock down to the weighted mags and trigger reset.  It would be nice if somehow they could have gotten the slide to move, but it doesn't.

Anyhow, when you stage the pistol you see an upper laser.  When you break the trigger it shows a secondary laser.  You can tell when a student gets on the trigger, when they break the trigger, if they properly reset the trigger.  By asking the student if they can see the secondary (lower) laser you can tell if they are un/conciously peeking at the target.  Really the only thing the SIRT lacks is the slide moving.

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Re: pistol laser trainer thing
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2013, 10:20:52 AM »
i have the
http://www.laserlyte.com/products/tlb-1
and use it with the
http://www.laserlyte.com/products/lt-pro

good training toy, but very expensive (could buy a lot of ammo with that money)
biggest hassle is you have to take both apart and remove batteries to prevent battery drain and to prevent acid leakage from ruining them

Has anyone tried this? On cheaperthandirt-butwellrapeyouonshipping , it claims to sit in your barrel and produce a red dot down range when you pull the trigger.

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Re: pistol laser trainer thing
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2013, 10:25:08 AM »
My son got one and it's fairly impressive for its feedback in point-shooting.  If it was accurate, I seemed to be "shooting " at the clock on the wall at his house a little bit low.  (All safety precautions excercised, of course.)

I'm frankly toying with the idea of getting one.

I used to practice a lot with various airsoft-ey guns in my apartment, but the recently-moved-in tenants next door to me are almost always home.  I suspect even the slight repeating noise of an airsoft would "alert" them, so this seems to be a viable extra option.

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« Last Edit: May 14, 2013, 10:30:31 AM by 230RN »
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Re: pistol laser trainer thing
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2013, 02:41:20 PM »
............I used to practice a lot with various airsoft-ey guns in my apartment, but the recently-moved-in tenants next door to me are almost always home.  I suspect even the slight repeating noise of an airsoft would "alert" them, so this seems to be a viable extra option.

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There are suppressors for airsoft pistols......... :D

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Re: pistol laser trainer thing
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2013, 06:44:43 AM »

There are suppressors for airsoft pistols......... :D

Yes, but I'm practicing point-shooting with a clone of my winter carry gun --a 1911 --including the draw, not just punching paper.  You can't carry a powder-actuated suppressed handgun around on the streets for SD purposes, just as a practical matter. 

I have regular Crimson Trace laser sights on both of my usual carry guns (1911 winter, J-frame summer), and I do practice with both of those about three yards from a large mirror --insert safety disclaimer here.That puts the target image --of me --six yards away.

Using the mirror lets me practice my "mean face," too.  (Jaw jutted, lips compressed, frown.)

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Re: pistol laser trainer thing
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2013, 06:54:14 AM »
double post  :(
« Last Edit: May 15, 2013, 07:07:27 AM by 230RN »
I do believe that the radical and crazy notion that the Founders meant what they said, is gradually soaking through the judicial system.

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Re: pistol laser trainer thing
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2013, 08:03:09 AM »
Yes, but I'm practicing point-shooting with a clone of my winter carry gun --a 1911 --including the draw, not just punching paper.  You can't carry a powder-actuated suppressed handgun around on the streets for SD purposes, just as a practical matter. 

I have regular Crimson Trace laser sights on both of my usual carry guns (1911 winter, J-frame summer), and I do practice with both of those about three yards from a large mirror --insert safety disclaimer here.That puts the target image --of me --six yards away.

Using the mirror lets me practice my "mean face," too.  (Jaw jutted, lips compressed, frown.)

Terry, 230RN


Keep practicing until you outdraw the guy in the mirror.

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Re: pistol laser trainer thing
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2013, 06:10:10 AM »
^ Heh.  I already do, by about 0.00000002 seconds.

(About six meters distance divided by 300,000,000 meters per second for the speed of light.)

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Re: pistol laser trainer thing
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2013, 09:16:00 AM »
If you have a glock you could get this kit plus the "magic bullet"
http://www.glockstore.com/trigger-reset-kit-for-glock

I was gonna get one but it's pretty expensive
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Re: pistol laser trainer thing
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2015, 12:03:09 PM »
No. 

SIRT pistol has the look, dimensions, and feel of a real Glock down to the weighted mags and trigger reset.  It would be nice if somehow they could have gotten the slide to move, but it doesn't.

Anyhow, when you stage the pistol you see an upper laser.  When you break the trigger it shows a secondary laser.  You can tell when a student gets on the trigger, when they break the trigger, if they properly reset the trigger.  By asking the student if they can see the secondary (lower) laser you can tell if they are un/conciously peeking at the target.  Really the only thing the SIRT lacks is the slide moving.

 any new input/ thoughts on laser training  pistols/ systems

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Re: pistol laser trainer thing
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2015, 12:12:27 PM »
Doesn't Glock.have a trainer with laser and slide action.

ren

Re: pistol laser trainer thing
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2015, 12:42:00 PM »
http://www.noptel.fi/eng/nts/index.php

http://www.scatt.com/training-systems/

then there's Top SHot http://www.digi-opto.com/TOP%20GUN.html  I know of only a couple of dealers.

Noptel and Scatt are proven and they offer traces up to and after the shot.
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Re: pistol laser trainer thing
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2015, 12:47:03 PM »
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Re: pistol laser trainer thing
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2015, 01:01:55 PM »
http://www.noptel.fi/eng/nts/index.php

http://www.scatt.com/training-systems/

then there's Top SHot http://www.digi-opto.com/TOP%20GUN.html  I know of only a couple of dealers.

Noptel and Scatt are proven and they offer traces up to and after the shot.

i can just see it now:
ren- hey mike, they guys and i are going to do some scat training today
mike- uh, ren, we don't allow that kind of perversion at a city park

ren

Re: pistol laser trainer thing
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2015, 01:07:04 PM »
The SCATT MX02 allows the shooter to shoot live fire and it will still analyze the shot.
http://www.accurateshooter.com/technical-articles/review-scatt-mx-02-for-high-power/
The downside for Chinese guy like me is that it is $1800, though it is a very powerful tool.
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