I don't know how many of you guys prep.  Hurricane season is here.
I usually keep 6 months of  commercial canned foods on hand,  To be honest I don't
rotate my stock as quick as I should.
This year I discovered two new canned goods that won't go very many years.
Fruit cocktail - I lost a case of in-date cans.
Campbell's chicken noodle soup - still in date.
It looks like the new style cans with the pop tops fail from the inside out, unlike
the old style cans which  lasted for many, may years.

Of course anything with Tomatoes in a can is to be avoided.
I'm sure there are others to avoid, but I haven't read of any lists.
Comments?

I don't know how many of you guys prep.  Hurricane season is here.
I usually keep 6 months of  commercial canned foods on hand,  To be honest I don't
rotate my stock as quick as I should.
This year I discovered two new canned goods that won't go very many years.
Fruit cocktail - I lost a case of in-date cans.
Campbell's chicken noodle soup - still in date.
It looks like the new style cans with the pop tops fail from the inside out, unlike
the old style cans which  lasted for many, may years.

Of course anything with Tomatoes in a can is to be avoided.
I'm sure there are others to avoid, but I haven't read of any lists.
Comments?

I've noticed that cans with the pop tops are way more prone to "blow outs".  Particularly with canned fruits, like pears, peaches, and mandarin oranged. 

I also don't rotate stock as often as I should.  It usually end donating some. 

I've noticed that cans with the pop tops are way more prone to "blow outs".  Particularly with canned fruits, like pears, peaches, and mandarin oranged. 

I also don't rotate stock as often as I should.  It usually end donating some.

madarin oranges in the pop top containers are horrid
went bad quickly, and even when good, so difficult to open without spilling liquid all over the f-ing place

I don't know how many of you guys prep.  Hurricane season is here.
I usually keep 6 months of  commercial canned foods on hand,  To be honest I don't
rotate my stock as quick as I should.
This year I discovered two new canned goods that won't go very many years.
Fruit cocktail - I lost a case of in-date cans.
Campbell's chicken noodle soup - still in date.
It looks like the new style cans with the pop tops fail from the inside out, unlike
the old style cans which  lasted for many, may years.

Of course anything with Tomatoes in a can is to be avoided.
I'm sure there are others to avoid, but I haven't read of any lists.
Comments?

Technology and economics have significantly changed the world of prepping, IMO.

Canned goods have become more and more subpar in terms of longevity.  While the contents MAY be safe to eat long after the expiration (or "Best By") date, the taste and/or texture could make it seem as if it has gone bad.  So, while you might believe "It's okay to eat," psychologically you might not want to eat it because it "tastes like it might be spoiled."

In short, I'm less and less trusting that canned goods are the best option for long term storage.  I've had Carnation Evaporated Milk go past the expiration after about a year of storing, and upon opening it, I was pretty sure it was no longer usable.  It kind of tasted like buttermilk, and it had a grittiness.

Damaged cans are a known problem in most cases.  So, even if the stockpile is only for a month or less during hurricane season, make sure all the cans are undamaged.  Dented cans have been known to be a sign of botulism.

After a botulism outbreak following a church potluck in Ohio left a woman dead and
sickened up to 28 others, health officials say canned food could be to blame.

Officials are looking into canned fruits and vegetables as well as pasta and potatoes
salads and other menu items, according to Ohio Department of Health spokeswoman
Shannon Libby.
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The bacteria Clostridium botulinum releases the toxin that causes botulism as part of its
natural anaerobic process, meaning it multiplies in an oxygen-free environment, like a
sealed can, Schaffner said.

"Back in the day when there was a lot of home-canning, people didn't always meticulously
follow protocols," Schaffner said. "The spores were not killed and given that this was now
an environment in a sealed container, the bacteria could multiply and produce the toxin."

With the advent of commercial canning and better understanding of botulism to put food
safety procedures in place, he said it's now rare to have a canned good-related botulism
outbreak.
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Unless the Ohio potluck investigators find that the food that caused the illness was commercially
canned, Schaffner said people have nothing to worry about. But if they see a can that is puffy
or dented, discard it.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/botulism-found-canned-foods-pantry-safe/story?id=30565079

Now we have dehydrated and freeze-dried foods that last many years on the shelf.  Also, there are many foods that can be stored long term with very little to no preparation.  Notice what category is in last place ....

Here are 23 Foods for Long-Term Food Storage
#1 – White Rice
#2 – Dried Beans
#3 – Honey
#4 – Peanut Butter
#5 – Powdered Milk
#6 – Ramen
#7 – Rolled Oats
#8 – Wheat Berries
#9 – Dried Pasta
#10 – Freeze Dried Everything
#11 – Dehydrated
#12 – Coconut and Olive Oil
#13 – Ghee
#14 – Sugar
#15 – Salt
#16 – Vinegar
#17 – Baking Soda
#18 – Long-Term Coffee
#19 – Alcohol
#20 – Pemmican
#21 – Hardtack
#22 – Potato Flakes/Powdered
#23 – Canned Foods

https://www.shtfblog.com/what-are-the-best-foods-for-long-term-storage/

The article mentions mylar bags and oxygen absorbers to increase storage duration.  A little work and research can ensure a better long term supply versus a bunch of cans that might only be good another month or two after you find you need them.  If you wait until stuff is expired to buy new, you're not planning ahead.  For stuff that lasts a year or less, you need to implement a rotation schedule.  Buy a few new cans/packages every month or so, and try to eat the oldest before they expire.

 

Interesting list;
Here are 23 Foods for Long-Term Food Storage
#1 – White Rice
#2 – Dried Beans
#3 – Honey
#4 – Peanut Butter
#5 – Powdered Milk
#6 – Ramen
#7 – Rolled Oats
#8 – Wheat Berries
#9 – Dried Pasta
#10 – Freeze Dried Everything
#11 – Dehydrated
#12 – Coconut and Olive Oil
#13 – Ghee
#14 – Sugar
#15 – Salt
#16 – Vinegar
#17 – Baking Soda
#18 – Long-Term Coffee
#19 – Alcohol
#20 – Pemmican
#21 – Hardtack
#22 – Potato Flakes/Powdered
#23 – Canned Foods


I have way more than that, But I didn't see it as prioritized. but that is a good thing to note
on the cans being last.  Interesting that Jail food, Rice and Beans is #1 and 2,

I also had trouble with Mandarin oranges in cans.  I guess I'll stick to fruits I grow.
We did plant another citrus fruit tree last year, not sure what kind.

Sticking to cans I was surprised to have problems with Chicken noodle soup!
All my other Campbell's stuff is fine.

 

Interesting list;

I have way more than that, But I didn't see it as prioritized. but that is a good thing to note
on the cans being last.  Interesting that Jail food, Rice and Beans is #1 and 2,

I also had trouble with Mandarin oranges in cans.  I guess I'll stick to fruits I grow.
We did plant another citrus fruit tree last year, not sure what kind.

Sticking to cans I was surprised to have problems with Chicken noodle soup!
All my other Campbell's stuff is fine.

 

Might be a worthwhile study to survey a couple of grocery stores.  Pick a list of 20 items give or take.  Take a picture of the product labels and date stamps.  So, if you like chicken noodle soup, take pics of all the brands of chicken noodle soup they carry.

If the list merely identifies one brand that's expected to last a year longer than the other brands, that alone would be worth finding out.   

Maybe the survey will also identify a certain type of can (opener needed vs. pull top) that affects shelf life across all brands?

Maybe someone on YouTube already did this?   

Just bought a case of Yoder's Assorted meats to try.  Comes in 28 oz cans and the company claims a shelf life of 10 years.   The beef can I opened had a "corned beef" smell to it when opened but was not unpleasant.  Taste was bland with a canned tuna texture.  Fat had separated from the meat so had the option to use it or not.  I made a sandwich spread using mayo, shoyu and sriracha sauce.  Was okay.   Case was expensive but most emergency foods are.   

I just had to dump a bunch of old forgotten canned food into the soldier fly bin. Pushed it to the nether regions of one of the cabinets and got a terrible surprise. I still have some mylar bags and 02 absorbers so maybe it is time to get some more beans when they show up at the store again. Trying to get my body used to them has been rough on Mrs Barrels, but one of the most important things I found out that makes all the differences in the world is SPICES. I definitely want to store some black pepper now, and get some more scorpions and ghost chilis growing. Flavorless beans and rice sucks, but when you get the spices dialed it in makes a really good meal.

Not into canned foods in a state like HI. The lids corrode so fast that the rust falls into the can when you open it.

For survival food, store freeze-dried food, which one packager (mercerfoods.com) claims has these advantages:

Moisture: Freeze-drying removes about 98 percent of the moisture in food, while dehydration removes about 90 percent.

Shelf life: The moisture content has an effect on shelf life, with freeze-dried foods lasting between 25 and 30 years, and dehydrated products lasting about 15 to 20 years.

Nutrition: Freeze-dried food retains most of the original vitamins and minerals of fresh produce, while the dehydration process can easily break down those nutrients.

Not into canned foods in a state like HI. The lids corrode so fast that the rust falls into the can when you open it.

For survival food, store freeze-dried food, which one packager (mercerfoods.com) claims has these advantages:

Moisture: Freeze-drying removes about 98 percent of the moisture in food, while dehydration removes about 90 percent.

Shelf life: The moisture content has an effect on shelf life, with freeze-dried foods lasting between 25 and 30 years, and dehydrated products lasting about 15 to 20 years.

Nutrition: Freeze-dried food retains most of the original vitamins and minerals of fresh produce, while the dehydration process can easily break down those nutrients.

Purchase of commercial freeze dried food will get you tasteless gruel.
A freeze drying machine isn't cheap at little more than $4,500( with oil free pump).
I have resisted buying a freeze drying machine as I'm concerned about the quality
of the reconstituted product.  No doubt Baby food is nutritious, but I don't
want to live on it.
I appreciate the external rusting on cans, but that is not real prevalent on my cans as
most failures are from internal corrosion caused by acidic foods.
Since I have land storage and soon to be all solar( If I'd quit screwing up my knee
so I can do some work),
I'll continue with a mix of fresh grow and raised foods, vacuum packed freezer storage,
dehydration, and purchase of canned goods with a more disciplined rotation cycle.
 

Da list of foods no mo SPAM. I tink SPAM outlast all dat odda food except fo honey an salt. Az fo freeze dry food, I wen try 3 different Mountain House stuff an da buggah pretty gud.

Da list of foods no mo SPAM. I tink SPAM outlast all dat odda food except fo honey an salt. Az fo freeze dry food, I wen try 3 different Mountain House stuff an da buggah pretty gud.

Two or three cases of SPAM, always!
Mountain house all buss up taste wise.

Freeze dried food will keep you alive, but as previously stated it’s not that tasty on its own. The best application is using it to buy some time while you scale up your garden. Mixing in the fresh stuff really brings a bland meal to life, especially if you have a few essential culinary herbs.

As far as can rust people paint them with mineral oil. I think they do the same thing with eggs which is supposed to really extend their shelf life, but I haven’t tried yet.

 

Unwashed chicken eggs can stay good close to 14 days without refrigeration.   Washed eggs need to go in the fridge in a day or so.