withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea? (Read 153662 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #660 on: September 06, 2021, 01:55:02 PM »
Have you ever traveled outside the US? immigration/ customs / passport control knows the number of people and their citizenship unless they illegally entered the country.  You are required to let Customs know where you will be residing while you are in a country. Its been like that for almost 100 yrs the world over. Even in dirt poor 3rd world dumps.



Even in dirt poor 3rd world dumps cell phone service is common. The days of a town crier are long long gone. Places in poorest parts of Africa actually use cell phone minutes as currency instead of the worthless money in their country.

Let me add to that:

Most Middle Eastern countries, like Saudi Arabia, have no tourism.  You must be there under the express permission of the government (in S.A. by invitation of the King).  So, there's not the massive turnover of travelers like we see visiting the US.

There are checkpoints on all roads entering and leaving the countries, similar to the border crossing facilities between US and Mexico.

If you're in a hotel or staying with someone, and the info you listed with immigration is correct, the embassy or consulate can contact you directly -- or they can contact hotel management and have them contact all US guests.  In Riyadh, the phone operator made PA announcements all the time in public spaces in the hotel.

Radio and TV announcements will also be broadcast for anyone who missed a more direct contact.

If you're living and working in a foreign country next door to terrorists, and you aren't keeping an eye on current events, that's your problem.  You can't live in your own little cocoon when traveling abroad, especially in a country that's at WAR. Situations change quickly and often.  Being oblivious is a good way to be captured and/or killed.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #661 on: September 06, 2021, 03:02:04 PM »
When you lose notorious liar Da Nang Dick I think you are in a lot of trouble.


Democrat Senator Blumenthal Blasts Biden Admin Over Abandoning Americans in Afghanistan: “Furious at Our Government’s Delays and Inaction”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/democrat-senator-blumenthal-blasts-biden-admin-abandoning-americans-afghanistan-furious-governments-delays-inaction/

eyeeatingfish

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #662 on: September 06, 2021, 07:46:23 PM »
Have you ever traveled outside the US? immigration/ customs / passport control knows the number of people and their citizenship unless they illegally entered the country.  You are required to let Customs know where you will be residing while you are in a country. Its been like that for almost 100 yrs the world over. Even in dirt poor 3rd world dumps.

Even in dirt poor 3rd world dumps cell phone service is common. The days of a town crier are long long gone. Places in poorest parts of Africa actually use cell phone minutes as currency instead of the worthless money in their country.

The US government knows when you leave the USA but they don't track where you are once you leave. So if you left the USA to go to India but then drove to Afghanistan the USA wouldn't know. Afghan customs should know if you entered legally but the USA wouldn't. And if the Afghan government had such a list but were taken over by the Taliban I wouldn't expect them to just hand it over either.

I am sure every American in Afghanistan had cell phones but once the Taliban entered the city was service still operational?

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #663 on: September 07, 2021, 12:54:08 PM »

drck1000

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #664 on: September 07, 2021, 01:00:34 PM »
Will be funny (at least kinda) if the Chinese end up commenting on the quality of US construction. . .

macsak

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #665 on: September 07, 2021, 04:25:45 PM »

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #666 on: September 07, 2021, 06:50:26 PM »
When the world of stupid keeps folding in on itself the meta is just plain hilarious. Maybe this will finally make Dems furious  at Biden?

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #667 on: September 07, 2021, 07:39:45 PM »
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/biden-asks-congress-6-4-billion-taxpayer-money-resettle-95000-unvetted-afghans/

Biden Asks Congress For $6.4 Billion in Taxpayer Money to Resettle 95,000 Unvetted Afghans

Dumbass wants to throw every man woman and child $70,000? WTF?!? Thats a lot of Ryder Trucks and Fertilizer.

eyeeatingfish

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #668 on: September 07, 2021, 08:19:24 PM »
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/biden-asks-congress-6-4-billion-taxpayer-money-resettle-95000-unvetted-afghans/

Biden Asks Congress For $6.4 Billion in Taxpayer Money to Resettle 95,000 Unvetted Afghans

Dumbass wants to throw every man woman and child $70,000? WTF?!? Thats a lot of Ryder Trucks and Fertilizer.

Weren't a lot of these people ones who were employed by the USA and part of the agreement was to bring them here?

Or did our soldiers on the ground really just let any Afghan who showed up on the plane?

changemyoil66

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #669 on: September 07, 2021, 08:25:41 PM »
Weren't a lot of these people ones who were employed by the USA and part of the agreement was to bring them here?

Or did our soldiers on the ground really just let any Afghan who showed up on the plane?
The 2nd part. Bidens people had the list months ago of the 14k who wanted to relocate and they did nothing with it.

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Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #670 on: September 07, 2021, 08:38:24 PM »
Weren't a lot of these people ones who were employed by the USA and part of the agreement was to bring them here?

Or did our soldiers on the ground really just let any Afghan who showed up on the plane?

They have already found 100+ Afghans who hopped on those planes with ties to terrorism during simple  background checks AFTER Biden bought them into the US.  That number was when they still had 50,00 more to SecClear. What did they do with that 100? Who else failed? No one is asking these questions. But apparently we are handing out $70,000 a head? Sounds like we should be flying some of these folks back instead.

QUIETShooter

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #671 on: September 07, 2021, 10:27:46 PM »
Wow!  biden is asking for billions of dollars to resettle potential terrorists who one day can potentially kill American citizens.

He packs American aircraft with Afghans without vetting them, ahead of Americans stranded in parts of that country.  He doesn't even bother to try to rescue them, only telling them to make their way to the airport so they can be transported home.  Never mind that there are Taliban all over the place

biden takes stupidity to an unbelievingly new level all day, every day.

And it has only been 8 months.  Seems like an eternity of ineptness........
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

bass monkey

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #672 on: September 08, 2021, 12:00:37 AM »
Weren't a lot of these people ones who were employed by the USA and part of the agreement was to bring them here?

Or did our soldiers on the ground really just let any Afghan who showed up on the plane?

That was exactly my point a page or 2 back,  that planes full of Afghan people made it out,  yet somehow American citizens couldn't even make it through the airport gates.

I'm fairly certain you commented on it as well

QUIETShooter

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #673 on: September 08, 2021, 06:45:56 AM »
That first plane was a photo op.  Showing America courageously flying out Afghans desperately trying to flee an oppressive regime.

Never mind that many in that overcrowded plane were unvetted.  And never mind that Americans were trapped outside the Airport gates.

For joe and his administration, appearance is more important.  But stupidity can only go so far.

Stupid is what stupid does.  This phrase made famous by another dummy.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

drck1000

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #674 on: September 08, 2021, 07:06:39 AM »
That first plane was a photo op.  Showing America courageously flying out Afghans desperately trying to flee an oppressive regime.

Never mind that many in that overcrowded plane were unvetted.  And never mind that Americans were trapped outside the Airport gates.

For joe and his administration, appearance is more important.  But stupidity can only go so far.

Stupid is what stupid does.  This phrase made famous by another dummy.
When CNN and even MSNBC were critical of what was going on, that was as interesting.

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #675 on: September 08, 2021, 08:33:53 AM »
Team Biden says greatest airlift in history! 100s of thousands saved! Turns out the US did very little of it. Most of the planes and crews were from other countries.

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #676 on: September 08, 2021, 07:03:36 PM »
Meet the new Director of Bank of Afghanistan.

macsak

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #677 on: September 08, 2021, 07:50:08 PM »
success!

eyeeatingfish

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #678 on: September 08, 2021, 09:08:16 PM »
The 2nd part. Bidens people had the list months ago of the 14k who wanted to relocate and they did nothing with it.

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I blame both sides. Trump was in control for about 12 months leading up to the deadline and very little was done. Then Biden got it and seemed to sit on it till the last minute.

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #679 on: September 08, 2021, 09:57:53 PM »
Then Biden got it and seemed to sit on it till the last minute.

9 months is last minute? Dude ....