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changemyoil66

Re: Another Trumpet bites the dust
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2021, 09:13:23 AM »
Quote from: groveler on July 22, 2021, 08:47:26 AM
Quote from: omnigun on July 22, 2021, 08:26:11 AM
Americans have patriotism,  love of country.  If you hate the government isn't that opposite?
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I generally try to stay out of the OG bashing as you seem to thrive on it.
But you aren't too bright are you?
 :closed:

Hence the swooossshhhhh and oxymorons he post.

He voted for Jorg/libertarian because they represent less government control, yet openly states he trust the government.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Another Trumpet bites the dust
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2021, 01:58:53 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on July 22, 2021, 08:26:11 AM
Americans have patriotism,  love of country.  If you hate the government isn't that opposite?

This is the underlying problem in the majority of your posts and beliefs.

There is a VAST difference between a nation and its government. 

In most nations, the people don't like their government.  But, they love their country.

You're one of the few people I've ever seen who loves the government, but seems to hate almost half the country's people -- those who voted for Trump.

Stop confusing the people in charge with "The United States".  The country existed long before they were born, and it'll remain long after they are gone.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Another Trumpet bites the dust
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2021, 02:08:17 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on July 22, 2021, 08:26:11 AM
Americans have patriotism,  love of country.  If you hate the government isn't that opposite?

as always, making assumptions without basis
goalposts still moving...
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omnigun

Re: Another Trumpet bites the dust
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2021, 02:44:26 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on July 22, 2021, 09:13:23 AM
Hence the swooossshhhhh and oxymorons he post.

He voted for Jorg/libertarian because they represent less government control, yet openly states he trust the government.

#youcantrustthegovernment

Thats not the only reason why I voted for Jorg, nor the main reason.  You can trust the government that isnt bloated....
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omnigun

Re: Another Trumpet bites the dust
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2021, 02:45:32 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on July 22, 2021, 01:58:53 PM
This is the underlying problem in the majority of your posts and beliefs.

There is a VAST difference between a nation and its government. 

In most nations, the people don't like their government.  But, they love their country.

You're one of the few people I've ever seen who loves the government, but seems to hate almost half the country's people -- those who voted for Trump.

Stop confusing the people in charge with "The United States".  The country existed long before they were born, and it'll remain long after they are gone.

Governments are made up by the people and they work for the people.  They are the nation.  A nation without government is anarchy. 
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Glasser

Re: Another Trumpet bites the dust
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2021, 02:53:15 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on July 22, 2021, 02:45:32 PM
Governments are made up by the people and they work for the people.  They are the nation.  A nation without government is anarchy.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Another Trumpet bites the dust
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2021, 03:25:51 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on July 22, 2021, 02:45:32 PM
Governments are made up by the people and they work for the people.  They are the nation.  A nation without government is anarchy.

You've been indoctrinated to believe the government is the answer to every problem.

"The people" who get elected are shills for big money corporations  and billionaire aristocracy.  Why else do you see someone like Hillary running unopposed (Bernie didn't count)?  She was not liked by the people, but the Democrat machine made her the defacto nominee before she even announced.  Then she lost to Trump.

The people elected Trump, and yet you hate Trump.  I guess you should have your TDS treated lest you be tagged as someone who hated his country for four years.

It's a fact:  the government does what it wants, often to the detriment of the nation and its people.  The elitist, ruling class of politicians are narcissists and egocentric individuals who often spend decades in government yet do nothing to make life better for "the people" who keep them there.

So blind.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Another Trumpet bites the dust
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2021, 03:32:06 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on July 22, 2021, 03:25:51 PM
You've been indoctrinated to believe the government is the answer to every problem.

"The people" who get elected are shills for big money corporations  and billionaire aristocracy.  Why else do you see someone like Hillary running unopposed (Bernie didn't count)?  She was not liked by the people, but the Democrat machine made her the defacto nominee before she even announced.  Then she lost to Trump.

The people elected Trump, and yet you hate Trump.  I guess you should have your TDS treated lest you be tagged as someone who hated his country for four years.

It's a fact:  the government does what it wants, often to the detriment of the nation and its people.  The elitist, ruling class of politicians are narcissists and egocentric individuals who often spend decades in government yet do nothing to make life better for "the people" who keep them there.

So blind.

One person doesn't make a country bro.  Hatred Trump but still liked America.  Don't like Biden now but I'm still a patriot.
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Glasser

Re: Another Trumpet bites the dust
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2021, 03:43:50 PM »
Still not English.
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changemyoil66

Re: Another Trumpet bites the dust
« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2021, 04:08:36 PM »
Another reason for a refund.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Another Trumpet bites the dust
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2021, 04:22:19 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on July 22, 2021, 03:32:06 PM
One person doesn't make a country bro.  Hatred Trump but still liked America.  Don't like Biden now but I'm still a patriot.

You're starting to post the right words, just not the way that you should be.

THE GOVERNMENT doesn't make a country.  You can HATE the government and still love/like America.

Read that over and over, and try to comprehend it.

Maybe the concept exists in your brain but needs to be better articulated.  Trump was the head of THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, not the country.  We exist as a collection of states, a district and territories.   

I assume you believe you also love the government of Hawaii as opposed to Hawaii as a state/place to live?
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Another Trumpet bites the dust
« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2021, 05:32:19 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on July 22, 2021, 08:26:11 AM
Americans have patriotism,  love of country.  If you hate the government isn't that opposite?

Americans! Highly paid football players! USA! Patriots! Living the dream!



They are oppressed!
https://www.realtor.com/news/celebrity-real-estate/san-francisco-49ers-real-estate/

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Another Trumpet bites the dust
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2021, 06:21:38 PM »
Is it possible to criticize the government and be patriotic?

YES:  92%

NO:     8%

https://www.debate.org/opinions/is-it-possible-to-criticize-the-government-and-be-patriotic?_escaped_fragment_=&_escaped_fragment_=

#Consensus


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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

groveler

Re: Another Trumpet bites the dust
« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2021, 06:53:21 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on July 22, 2021, 06:21:38 PM
Is it possible to criticize the government and be patriotic?

YES:  92%

NO:     8%

https://www.debate.org/opinions/is-it-possible-to-criticize-the-government-and-be-patriotic?_escaped_fragment_=&_escaped_fragment_=

#Consensus
There is some pretty weird comments in that survey.
but my system is easy;
#1 God.
#2 Family.
#3 Country.

Everything else is variable depending on the nature of the terrain.
 :shaka:
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Another Trumpet bites the dust
« Reply #34 on: July 22, 2021, 06:56:06 PM »
Quote from: groveler on July 22, 2021, 06:53:21 PM
There is some pretty weird comments in that survey.
but my system is easy;
#1 God.
#2 Family.
#3 Country.

Everything else is variable depending on the nature of the terrain.
 :shaka:

Yeah, the "No" comments made little sense.  I think most people understand that the GOVERNMENT is separate from AMERICA.

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Another Trumpet bites the dust
« Reply #35 on: July 22, 2021, 07:09:37 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on July 22, 2021, 06:56:06 PM
Yeah, the "No" comments made little sense.  I think most people understand that the GOVERNMENT is separate from AMERICA.

Without the government there would be no AMERICA. 
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omnigun

Re: Another Trumpet bites the dust
« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2021, 07:10:32 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on July 22, 2021, 06:21:38 PM
Is it possible to criticize the government and be patriotic?

YES:  92%

NO:     8%

https://www.debate.org/opinions/is-it-possible-to-criticize-the-government-and-be-patriotic?_escaped_fragment_=&_escaped_fragment_=

#Consensus

Criticize is much different than hate and want to fight. 
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changemyoil66

Re: Another Trumpet bites the dust
« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2021, 07:12:07 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on July 22, 2021, 07:09:37 PM
Without the government there would be no AMERICA.
Doesnt understand history101

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Another Trumpet bites the dust
« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2021, 08:30:51 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on July 22, 2021, 07:10:32 PM
Criticize is much different than hate and want to fight.

Show me where anyone here said they "hate and want to fight" the government.

FYI -- the Second Amendment exists so the people CAN fight the government.  There must be a reason that right exists and is protected.

Based on your comment, I guess you believe the Americans fighting the British for independence were traitors, not patriots.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Another Trumpet bites the dust
« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2021, 09:13:16 PM »
C'mon guys. Governments never did anything wrong.
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Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.
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