C'mon guys. Governments never did anything wrong.

#Sarcasm

Unlimited resources and they still have nothing to get a conviction.  Most vetted politician in history.

Still not proven in court…

as always, making assumptions without basis
goalposts still moving...

Feelings = basis

Still not English.

He speaking bubbles like his buddy Biden

Doesnt understand history101

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Wasn’t even worth a swoosh on that one. Need more like a Cat 5 hurricane. Wtf?

Without the government there would be no AMERICA.

Declaration of independence -- Signed July 4, 1776.  Beginning of a new nation no longer under British rule as a colony.

US Constitution  -- Effective March 4, 1789.  This founding document, originally comprising seven articles, delineates the national frame of government.

I guess between 1776 and 1789, "America" didn't exist?

Declaration of independence -- Signed July 4, 1776.  Beginning of a new nation no longer under British rule as a colony.

US Constitution  -- Effective March 4, 1789.  This founding document, originally comprising seven articles, delineates the national frame of government.

I guess between 1776 and 1789, "America" didn't exist?

Yup. 

Yup. 

Wrong.

America existed long before the United States government.  Germans colonized Pennsylvania in the early 1700s.  French colonized Louisiana and Florida.  English landed on Plymouth Rock in 1620.

American colonies, also called thirteen colonies or colonial America, the 13 British colonies that were
established during the 17th and early 18th centuries in what is now a part of the eastern United States.
The colonies grew both geographically along the Atlantic coast and westward and numerically to 13
from the time of their founding to the American Revolution (1775–81). Their settlements had spread far
beyond the Appalachians and extended from Maine in the north to the Altamaha River in Georgia when
the Revolution began, and there were at that time about 2.5 million American colonists.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/American-colonies


Waiting for you to move the goal posts from "America" to "United States of America."

America existed long before the United States government was officially created.

Wrong.

America existed long before the United States government.  Germans colonized Pennsylvania in the early 1700s.  French colonized Louisiana and Florida.  English landed on Plymouth Rock in 1620.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/American-colonies


Waiting for you to move the goal posts from "America" to "United States of America."

America existed long before the United States government was officially created.

Nope "America" as a country can never exist without the government and constitution.  Maybe a government like entity existed before that but it was not the country of "America".

Someone doesn't know who Amerigo Vespucci is.

~*~~ * hurriedly Googles * ~~~*~


You really trying to change the definition of the word country? Why do you keep using the wrong words and instead of learning the right ones?

Nope "America" as a country can never exist without the government and constitution.  Maybe a government like entity existed before that but it was not the country of "America".

Nope.  America existed long before the United States.  The GOVERNMENT you keep trying to pretend only began in 1787 wasn't the beginning of the country.  The American territories were under the rule of other countries, as I already mentioned.

So, the colonies DID have a government, just not the US government.  But "America" existed then.  Period.

Someone doesn't know who Amerigo Vespucci is.

~*~~ * hurriedly Googles * ~~~*~


You really trying to change the definition of the word country? Why do you keep using the wrong words and instead of learning the right ones?

He thinks/believes that a nation is defined by its government.

When I went to school, nation was defined as a people having common language, customs and sometimes borders.  The Jewish nation is a great example.  So is the Cheokee Nation.  Groups of people having the same beginnings and sharing common language and customs.  No "government" existed for nations.

The geo-political location of a nation was called a nation-state.  In the US, we broke with that model and essentially created a nation of nation-states, each with the independence to do pretty much anything their citizens wanted.  The role of the federal government was limited to things like a standing Army and Navy, and negotiations and treaties with foreign countries.

A rose by any other name ....

Nope.  America existed long before the United States.  The GOVERNMENT you keep trying to pretend only began in 1787 wasn't the beginning of the country.  The American territories were under the rule of other countries, as I already mentioned.

So, the colonies DID have a government, just not the US government.  But "America" existed then.  Period.

US government is "america".  We already know when I say America I mean the United States of America.   The USA didn't exist till the constitution. 

Don't really care what governments came before it.   But it wasn't the USA. 

US government is "america".  We already know when I say America I mean the United States of America.   The USA didn't exist till the constitution. 

Don't really care what governments came before it.   But it wasn't the USA.

Wrong.

America existed long before the United States government.  Germans colonized Pennsylvania in the early 1700s.  French colonized Louisiana and Florida.  English landed on Plymouth Rock in 1620.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/American-colonies


Waiting for you to move the goal posts from "America" to "United States of America."

America existed long before the United States government was officially created.

#GoalPostMovementPredicted

#GoalPostMovementPredicted

We only been talking about the USA.  Goalpost never moved you just never figured it out.  Whole convo started about a Constitution. Only one America ever had that....

He thinks/believes that a nation is defined by its government.

He thinks / believes that similar words all share the same definition, he does this all the time. Conflating, confusing  or misusing words over and over again, this isn't Eskimos with 200 words for snow, the reason for a vocabulary is because terms have a designated nuance(s) attached to them. He doesn't seem to understand that which is why I brought the possibility he might have a mild form of autism.

It's OK if you have the 'Tism bro, just say so and we can work with you.

We only been talking about the USA.  Goalpost never moved you just never figured it out.  Whole convo started about a Constitution. Only one America ever had that....

"WE?"  You got a gecko in your pocket?

I've been trying to educate you that "America" and "The United States of America" existed at different times, and therefore can't be one in the same.

Your statements prove you don't get it.

"WE?"  You got a gecko in your pocket?

I've been trying to educate you that "America" and "The United States of America" existed at different times, and therefore can't be one in the same.

Your statements prove you don't get it.

America IS the USA.  There was never a country called "America".  America is short for UNITED STATE OF AMERICA. 

Countries need rules, a government,  and many other requirements.

I called it, he doesn't know who Amerigo Vespucci is...

I called it, he doesn't know who Amerigo Vespucci is...

According to OG, American Indians (Native Americans) didn't exist until the Constitution was ratified. 

Without government, nothing exists (including individual rights).