The Jab (Read 174660 times)

aieahound

Re: The Jab
« Reply #600 on: September 22, 2021, 08:54:01 PM »
Can't save them from themselves.   I support suicide.

That alone should be enough to get him banned.
I support suicide ? On a 2A website ?
Among a shit of ton a folks who are friends ? 
I’m pissed.  :grrr:
There’s a line….

And backs it up with I support freedom ?  :wtf:
Thinks people who kill themselves are exerting their Right to freedom ?
Moves goal post to euthanasia? That’s not suicide.
And I’m not gonna argue off tangent about that.

ren

Re: The Jab
« Reply #601 on: September 22, 2021, 08:56:13 PM »
You can warn people to you are blue but if they don't listen that's on them.   Some point evolution standards kick in.   👌  It's not discrimination.   Unless you are disrmininating on intelligence, but even then not really.   At some point people have to live with their choices.   Or not.  Judging people on choices is normal.   Making rules based on choices is also normal.   No shirt and shoes no service we do things like that all the time.   We have limits on age,  sex etc.  Can't drink till a certain age.  Use the right bathroom.  Normal stuff.   Don't need to jump to conclusions.   We have had vaccine mandates before.  You were in the military you should know this.    :crazy:

Don't jump on this BS "you were in the military" to try and relate because you can't.
You would never make it because you have zero morals and that is part of the framework that guides us. The military has values that we live by.
No Soldier would support suicide.
No Soldier would let another suffer because they didn't get this or that vaccination.
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omnigun

Re: The Jab
« Reply #602 on: September 22, 2021, 08:58:10 PM »
That alone should be enough to get him banned.
I support suicide ? On a 2A website ?
Among a shit of ton a folks who are friends ? 
I’m pissed.  :grrr:
There’s a line….

Your body your right.   It don't affect others it's your choice.  Euthanasia,  suicide those are all independent choices you can make.  I don't encourage it,  but I can't stop you.  Drinking,  abortions, even selling body parts or modification of your body.  All freedom choices.  If it's not a public issue then it's private.  I have no rights over your private life.    I thought you were pro freedom....

We legalized euthanasia,  that's suicide.  It isn't such a taboo topic.  Even my elderly grandparents who supported it from the beginning because they wish to have control over their life. 

So yes I stand by my statement.   

aieahound

Re: The Jab
« Reply #603 on: September 22, 2021, 08:59:53 PM »
See above.
And that’s not even edited. Just finishing a thought because I read what I wrote.

ren

Re: The Jab
« Reply #604 on: September 22, 2021, 09:00:43 PM »
That alone should be enough to get him banned.
I support suicide ? On a 2A website ?
Among a shit of ton a folks who are friends ? 
I’m pissed.  :grrr:
There’s a line….

And backs it up with I support freedom ?  :wtf:
Thinks people who kill themselves are exerting their Right to freedom ?
Moves goal post to euthanasia? That’s not suicide.
And I’m not gonna argue off tangent about that.

I see that combo. Not good at all. That's a very thin and dangerous line that person is walking on.
Deeds Not Words

omnigun

Re: The Jab
« Reply #605 on: September 22, 2021, 09:02:12 PM »
Don't jump on this BS "you were in the military" to try and relate because you can't.
You would never make it because you have zero morals and that is part of the framework that guides us. The military has values that we live by.
No Soldier would support suicide.
No Soldier would let another suffer because they didn't get this or that vaccination.

Are you against euthanasia?   Where do you draw the line for freedom of one's self?   Is it just the word suicide?   Should you not control your own life?   And what happens with it? 

The fact remains the military mandates vaccines.   There isn't suffering around that rule before,  why now? 

ren

Re: The Jab
« Reply #606 on: September 22, 2021, 09:05:20 PM »
Your goal post moving is no f*cking joke you sick f8ck. First you said suicide and when someone pointed out the precariousness of you using that on this site you changed it to euthanasia. That's one end of the football field to the other. You should check yourself.
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omnigun

Re: The Jab
« Reply #607 on: September 22, 2021, 09:05:43 PM »
I see that combo. Not good at all. That's a very thin and dangerous line that person is walking on.

A gun has nothing to do with suicide.  As many have said before it's just a tool.   It should never be factored in that's why we have skewed gun deaths.   If you wanted to end yourself there's many ways and tools.  2a has no relevance.   

omnigun

Re: The Jab
« Reply #608 on: September 22, 2021, 09:07:19 PM »
Your goal post moving is no f*cking joke you sick f8ck. First you said suicide and when someone pointed out the precariousness of you using that on this site you changed it to euthanasia. That's one end of the football field to the other. You should check yourself.

No I still support the right to suicide.   Euthanasia is very similar.  I support right to both.   It's your life.   How you live or end it,  is not my right to decide.  If you don't affect anyone else that is.   If your method hurts anyone else obviously I don't support it.   

changemyoil66

Re: The Jab
« Reply #609 on: September 22, 2021, 09:32:49 PM »
That alone should be enough to get him banned.
I support suicide ? On a 2A website ?
Among a shit of ton a folks who are friends ? 
I’m pissed.  :grrr:
There’s a line….

And backs it up with I support freedom ?  :wtf:
Thinks people who kill themselves are exerting their Right to freedom ?
Moves goal post to euthanasia? That’s not suicide.
And I’m not gonna argue off tangent about that.
He supports freedom until it affects him. Like how freedom to choose to get vaxxed isnt in his belief. Oh wait, make life difficult so people get vaxxed, or "they can just test once a week". No problem. U guys are arguing with a lost soul. Hence why i dont reply, no matter how bad the post are.

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changemyoil66

Re: The Jab
« Reply #610 on: September 22, 2021, 09:33:20 PM »
Your goal post moving is no f*cking joke you sick f8ck. First you said suicide and when someone pointed out the precariousness of you using that on this site you changed it to euthanasia. That's one end of the football field to the other. You should check yourself.
Cant check ones self if he has no idea what goal post moving is.

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eyeeatingfish

Re: The Jab
« Reply #611 on: September 22, 2021, 09:37:43 PM »
I never said anything "can be predicted for certain."  No doctor in his right mind guarantees a given result from any medication.  There's alway a certain degree of risk that drugs will not work or will cause worse problems for a given patient.  What they can do is offer an OPINION on the risks.  It's up to the patient to accept them, not the doctors.

A prediction is different from an opinion. An opinion would be whether someone should take the drug/vaccine. Saying a drug has a low risk of long term complications would not be a matter of opinion because it is either right or wrong.

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As of now, there's not enough information for the individual to make a truly informed decision, because there hasn't been enough time to really know all the effects of the vaccines -- no matter how many drug-maker-sponsored studies the government cites.

That logic risks being a moving goalpost. Medicines could take 80 years to approve because we would need to wait a person's whole lifetime to watch for potential side effects.

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Jab
« Reply #612 on: September 22, 2021, 09:45:13 PM »
When it comes to the issue of morality and medical traige, I think it is impossible to fully separate the two. Whether a doctor, or a hospital policy makes a call there are always going to be reprocussions people will see on a moral level.

Lets take lung transplants lists. If the list is just first come first serve then you inevitably have people upset because you might have a child with a birth defect being put after a 60 year old chain smoker. But if you decide to go with age and life potential remaining then the smoker gets upset because his is being morally judged. Either option introduces a morality aspect, or at least a perception of a morality aspect to it. Heck, lets take it to the most extreme example. Say a suicide bomber survived the explosion and was taken to the hospital with all the other critical victims. Can you imagine the outrage if a doctor worked on the terrorist before one of the victims or if one of the victims died because the doctor worked on the terrorist first?

I did hear that in some states doctors get priority in treatment because the reasoning is that when the doctor gets better he can help save more people, but even then someone could get upset asking why a doctor's life is worth more. 

macsak

Re: The Jab
« Reply #613 on: September 22, 2021, 10:29:20 PM »
How is that celebrating?  I haven't posted any of those memes either.  Been avoiding that word too.

goalpost----------->moved

omnigun

Re: The Jab
« Reply #591 on: Today at 06:52:59 PM »
Hospital statistics show most vaxxed live.  With current treatments it's even better.   While the ideal world would still have the innocents protected and their freedom restored I come to realize my input won't really change much especially here.  So f it, let them die.


hvybarrels

Re: The Jab
« Reply #614 on: September 23, 2021, 12:58:31 PM »
When it comes to the issue of morality and medical traige, I think it is impossible to fully separate the two. Whether a doctor, or a hospital policy makes a call there are always going to be reprocussions people will see on a moral level.

The whole point of triage is to take the moral element out of it so that medical personnel do not become emotionally overwhelmed by the gravity of their own personal decisions.

You're trying to politicize an algorithm in order to justify the mass murder of anyone who dares to stand up against reckless Big Pharma profiteering.

Shame on you.
The problem governments are trying to solve is the existence of your freedom.

changemyoil66

Re: The Jab
« Reply #615 on: September 23, 2021, 01:41:03 PM »
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« Last Edit: September 24, 2021, 11:52:02 AM by changemyoil66 »

QUIETShooter

Re: The Jab
« Reply #616 on: September 23, 2021, 02:40:45 PM »
Geee.  The goalposts have been moved so many times is there even firm ground to plant it anymore? :D

There is only so many times you can earth and unearth the ground to the point it won't hold anything anymore.

Maybe we should just add compost and fertilizers to the ground and convert to a community garden?

And maybe Omni should just hold the goalposts in his arms since it's going to be moved again. ;)
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

changemyoil66

Re: The Jab
« Reply #617 on: September 23, 2021, 04:34:34 PM »
The goal post didnt reach the end of the earth yet.

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aletheuo137

Re: The Jab
« Reply #618 on: September 23, 2021, 04:35:55 PM »
The goal post didnt reach the end of the earth yet.

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To the moon and back!

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drck1000

Re: The Jab
« Reply #619 on: September 23, 2021, 05:31:19 PM »
#anotherthreadderailed
#butthisderailismorefunner