6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts (Read 16236 times)

drck1000

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2021, 12:18:08 PM »
https://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/65-creedmoor-vs-308-winchester/
at shorter distance, the 308 has more energy than the 6.5CM.  which is why i'm not ready to get on the 6.5CM boat.  i very rarely shoot past 100 yards, and when i do its maybe out to 300 yards, so my 308 does just fine and is very accurate out to that distance
I've never shot a 6.5CM, so all my knowledge comes from online info
6.5 CM is flatter shooting at longer distances.  probably advantageous at long distance shooting.  ammo availability and price is considerable also

have you considered other calibers like 6mm ARC or any other of the newer calibers?
Me no huntah.  ;D I mean I wouldn't mind the opportunity, but not my thing.  If I did, I'd probably stick with .308 or something specific to the range and beast animal.  At this point in my life, the only stuff that really interests me are pest control.  I have a buddy just outside Houston that helps a couple of ranchers with pest control for feral hogs.  Another friend (somewhat lost touch with him though) in ND who does prairie dogs.  They have these rotating shooting benches and look for the "pink mist".  The prairie dogs are pests there and IIRC are a hazard for the livestock there.  I'd also get a much lighter gun.  My bolt action is pretty hefty. 

Yup, the 6.5 interests me for shooting in the 600-1000+ yard distances.   One aspect is commercial ammo availability, as well as it's pretty common caliber overall. 

I have somewhat considered other 6mm varieties.  6x47, 6.5x47, 6 mm ARC, etc.  I was planning on doing more research, but I may be ordering a second custom action soon, so that spurred this line of thinking.  Still not set on 6.5 Creedmoor, but really interested.  I want to stick with a caliber where brass (and boolits to a certain extent) is readily available.  Primers are also a consideration.  I have a good amount of LRP, where I can get brass for 6.5 CM for LRP.  Maybe in the future when SRP becomes more available, I'll expand.  I also am not into any wildcat calibers, at least not right now. 

dv808

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2021, 12:24:49 PM »
The 6.5 CM is not a very "flat" shooting caliber compared to other many other faster rounds.  Normally the faster the round, the "flatter" it's considered.  The average factory 223/556 round shoots flatter at 3000fps than the average 2700fps 6.5 Creedmoor.  What the 6.5 round does excel at is that it isn't effected by wind drift as much at other rounds like the 223 or 30 cal rounds because of it's higher BC (ballistic coefficient). Someone once said that it was like shooting pencils when first looking at the round.  The 6mm bullets have an even higher BC.

When pulling up comparison info between the 143gr 2700 fps 6.5 CM and factory 55gr XM193 3100 fps 556, the CM will drop an 4 inches more than the 556 at 400 yds but will drift less in a 20mph side wind by more almost 23 inches at the same distance.

My 300 Weatherby Magnum's 150gr bullet @3500fps drops almost half as much as the Creedmoor but drifts about 5 inches more at 400yds.  This one's a barrel burner but it's harder to shoot as much because the recoil's pretty rough.

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macsak

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2021, 12:32:44 PM »
I personally like the 6.5 cm.  I got one and its great.  Doubt I will ever get close to shooting out the barrel.

range too far...

drck1000

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2021, 12:41:19 PM »
The 6.5 CM is not a very "flat" shooting caliber compared to other many other faster rounds.  Normally the faster the round, the "flatter" it's considered.  The average factory 223/556 round shoots flatter at 3000fps than the average 2700fps 6.5 Creedmoor.  What the 6.5 round does excel at is that it isn't effected by wind drift as much at other rounds like the 223 or 30 cal rounds because of it's higher BC (ballistic coefficient). Someone once said that it was like shooting pencils when first looking at the round.  The 6mm bullets have an even higher BC.

When pulling up comparison info between the 143gr 2700 fps 6.5 CM and factory 55gr XM193 3100 fps 556, the CM will drop an inch more than the 556 at 400 yds but will drift less in a 20mph side wind by more almost 6 inches at the same distance.

My 300 Weatherby Magnum's 150gr bullet @3500fps drops almost half as much as the Creedmoor but drifts about an inch more at 400yds.  This one's a barrel burner but it's harder to shoot as much because the recoil's pretty rough.

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The "wind bucking" is one of the reasons I'm interested in 6.5 CM.  That's one of the big feedback from a couple of buddies on the mainland and a couple of "gun guys" I follow.  I've played with the Berger 168 gr Hybrids, which has the highest (or near the highest) for the boolits in that gr range.  I've have good results with the SMK 175 gr out to a touch over 1000 yards.  Have been testing a couple of the Berger 175 gr boolits as well, but just scratching the surface with those. 

I'd have to check, but I think I chrono'ed 193 out of my 16" barrel AR at around 3100 fps.  I don't remember what the FGMM SMK chrono'ed at.  I've only shot that gun out to about the mid-500 yard range.  Even with my 1-10, 600 yards is a decent distance.

A couple of buddies shoot the faster boolits.  One has a 7mm Rem Mag and another .300 WM.  I think the .300 WM was chrono'ed at around 3200 fps.  Yeah, shooting those are a different animal.  Different stroke for different folks.  The 7mm Rem Mag is a hunter, but even him, dunno if he'll ever use that rifle for hunting.  I've shot the .300 WM a few times.  Can't see myself owning one. 

ren

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2021, 12:50:20 PM »
boolits are usually referred to as cast while bullets are jacketed...Id be interested if you are getting those velocities out of cast bullets
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drck1000

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2021, 01:34:48 PM »
boolits are usually referred to as cast while bullets are jacketed...Id be interested if you are getting those velocities out of cast bullets
#boolitslivesmatter
#headsareheads
#clipswithclips

aletheuo137

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2021, 07:28:52 PM »
#boolitslivesmatter
#headsareheads
#clipswithclips
I've heard the 6.5 grendel or prc are good. But I've shot 308 & 30-06, very good too. But I own a 270 win & Hawken 50 cal. 284 win is really good, hunta808 has one and could give you more info on it.

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Ocean19

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2021, 03:51:04 PM »
The new bartlien 400MODBB suppose to get more life out of the 6.5cm or 6mm according to the preliminary test results.

From what I read if you can’t find one in stock now it could be a 10-12 month wait time.

drck1000

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2021, 04:11:02 PM »
The new bartlien 400MODBB suppose to get more life out of the 6.5cm or 6mm according to the preliminary test results.

From what I read if you can’t find one in stock now it could be a 10-12 month wait time.
Never heard of that barrel.  But I have a line on a 6.5 CM Bartlein barrel for myself and a buddy.   ;D

Dammit, now I'll have to check out the quote/estimate. . . nah.  I'm likely gonna go with whatever they have.  Motivation to shoot the 2000-3000 or whatevers.  Then by that time, I can get the 400moobbies. . .  8)

omnigun

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2021, 09:44:11 AM »
The new bartlien 400MODBB suppose to get more life out of the 6.5cm or 6mm according to the preliminary test results.

From what I read if you can’t find one in stock now it could be a 10-12 month wait time.

Dang,  I wish I knew that.  I bought a 6.5 regular bartlien barrel :(

drck1000

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2021, 01:55:58 PM »
The new bartlien 400MODBB suppose to get more life out of the 6.5cm or 6mm according to the preliminary test results.

From what I read if you can’t find one in stock now it could be a 10-12 month wait time.
Looked up that barrel/material.  Seems promising, but at almost double the cost of 416R, I'll stick with those for now.  The shop I am going with has them and the action in stock.  So I ordered a barreled action.  Will likely get that in before my rifle build, which is waiting on the chassis.  I don't have any components, so will have to start gearing up for that. 

Ocean19

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2021, 02:14:27 PM »
Dang,  I wish I knew that.  I bought a 6.5 regular bartlien barrel :(
On what action?

Whose doing the chambering on the barrel?

drck1000

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2021, 02:29:38 PM »
On what action?

Whose doing the chambering on the barrel?
Another 20 questions?  ???

Haha

Ocean19

6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2021, 02:31:45 PM »
Another 20 questions?  ???

Haha
Did I just open Pandora’s box?

ren

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2021, 02:58:37 PM »
Did I just open Pandora’s box?

range too far...
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aletheuo137

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2021, 03:37:38 PM »
Pandora's barrel?

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Ocean19

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2021, 04:41:23 PM »
Yeah I only shoot paper at 100 yards.   Mine is not a hunting rifle more of a bench rifle it weighs almost 20lbs.  It's more accurate than my abilities and has functioned perfectly.  Unfortunately there is no range that I can go to that reaches past that but if there was then the "flatter" shooting would be appreciated.   I don't have much detailed answers some are looking for,  just inserting my amateur 2 cents on the round how it functions for my use.   Will try be more detailed next time.   Thanks

What did you add to make the rifle 20#'s?

changemyoil66

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2021, 04:43:54 PM »
No need bring sandbag if you glue them to the stock.

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drck1000

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2021, 05:29:49 PM »
No need bring sandbag if you glue them to the stock.

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Here you go. But too “buku” fo u!

https://masterpiecearms.com/shop/mpa-weight-tuning-system/

My bolt 308 is super heavy. If I put these, bruh

ren

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2021, 05:58:06 PM »
hmmmm... a 20lb benchrest rifle in 6.5 creed
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