.22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations (Read 139706 times)

esk808

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #340 on: November 18, 2021, 11:46:33 AM »
Plan (or hope) is to get the rifle out to the range either tomorrow or Sat.  Zero the rifle and shoot some groups.  I eventually want to get this gun out to the silhouette range.

If not windy, I going Saturday.  Let's try and talk story over there.



As far as cleaning rimfire, every gun "authority" has their own way.  You have to find what works for you in your rifle.

One of the ways is the Eley way: https://www.accurateshooter.com/technical-articles/how-to-clean-rimfire-rifle-barrels/

Bushido

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #341 on: November 18, 2021, 07:49:13 PM »

But I have to admit one of my initial thoughts were, "damn, that's a lot of cleaning".

Wait.... you're supposed to clean these damn things?  :D  Can of worms opened....   :rofl:.

Bushido

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #342 on: November 18, 2021, 07:55:21 PM »
IMO cleaning ruins way more barrels than shooting does in rimfire and centerfire. Cleaning is required but not nearly what most does.

Bushido

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #343 on: November 18, 2021, 08:02:30 PM »
Keith has an interesting collection of .22s. Yesterday he had his Martini

That rifle, and definitely more importantly the shooter, is the best 22 rifle I've seen. That's just one of many that'll outshoot all others

Akubone1

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #344 on: November 19, 2021, 09:58:38 AM »
If not windy, I going Saturday.  Let's try and talk story over there.



As far as cleaning rimfire, every gun "authority" has their own way.  You have to find what works for you in your rifle.

One of the ways is the Eley way: https://www.accurateshooter.com/technical-articles/how-to-clean-rimfire-rifle-barrels/

Bummer can’t go Sat…need to spend 5 hours for soccer with my two boys.  Hoping to shoot on Sunday…windy or not. 😊

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #345 on: November 20, 2021, 08:13:39 AM »
If not windy, I going Saturday.  Let's try and talk story over there.



As far as cleaning rimfire, every gun "authority" has their own way.  You have to find what works for you in your rifle.

One of the ways is the Eley way: https://www.accurateshooter.com/technical-articles/how-to-clean-rimfire-rifle-barrels/
I ended up getting to the range yesterday. Got the rifle zeroed and seems like a nice shooting rifle. At least with the CCi ammo I had on hand. Looking forward to the Eley and Lapua.

It was quite windy at times yesterday. Gusting at times enough to blow stuff off tables and rifle cases on the ground. I was able to shoot some pretty decent groups while zeroing and after that, so not bad.

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #346 on: November 20, 2021, 08:19:46 AM »
IMO cleaning ruins way more barrels than shooting does in rimfire and centerfire. Cleaning is required but not nearly what most does.
I’ve seen that as well. I’ve seen some folks with some interesting cleaning regimens with ARs and power tools.

Rocky

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #347 on: November 20, 2021, 08:51:18 AM »
I’ve seen that as well. I’ve seen some folks with some interesting cleaning regimens with ARs and power tools.
Just spray with brake cleaner (non-chlorinated of course)
 :wave:
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Rocky

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #348 on: November 20, 2021, 08:53:47 AM »
Wait.... you're supposed to clean these damn things?  :D  Can of worms opened....   :rofl:.
Only if it's not a Glock  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Inspector

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #349 on: November 20, 2021, 09:14:29 AM »
Wait, does this mean my being lazy about cleaning is a good thing?  ;D
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #350 on: November 20, 2021, 12:09:58 PM »
Just spray with brake cleaner (non-chlorinated of course)
 :wave:
I've been using Sharp Shoot R products.  Apply with patch and/or nylon brushes and let sit for a while.  Works great on my bolt action(s) (not that many rounds).  They also have a version for ARs.  I've tried once and was good.  But haven't tried after having shot the gun in a class or after not cleaning for a while (maybe 500-1000 rounds, or more). 

Only if it's not a Glock  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
You don't take a shower with yours?   ;D

Wait, does this mean my being lazy about cleaning is a good thing?  ;D
That's me too many times.  When I first got into guns, I would clean pretty thoroughly.  Not the super abrasive and "white glove" level that some prescribe to, but I don't clean my guns anywhere near like how I used to. 

Inspector

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #351 on: November 20, 2021, 02:16:53 PM »
I've been using Sharp Shoot R products.  Apply with patch and/or nylon brushes and let sit for a while.  Works great on my bolt action(s) (not that many rounds).  They also have a version for ARs.  I've tried once and was good.  But haven't tried after having shot the gun in a class or after not cleaning for a while (maybe 500-1000 rounds, or more). 
You don't take a shower with yours?   ;D
That's me too many times.  When I first got into guns, I would clean pretty thoroughly.  Not the super abrasive and "white glove" level that some prescribe to, but I don't clean my guns anywhere near like how I used to.
When I moved here I had not cleaned my 22’s for many 1,000’s of rounds. It had also been several years since I shot any of them. I was preparing for a trip in which I was going top take one of my 10/22’s. I pulled the bolt back and let it go and it moved like a snail instead of snapping forward. It was at that point that I decided I had better clean it.  :rofl:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #352 on: November 22, 2021, 09:18:22 AM »
When I moved here I had not cleaned my 22’s for many 1,000’s of rounds. It had also been several years since I shot any of them. I was preparing for a trip in which I was going top take one of my 10/22’s. I pulled the bolt back and let it go and it moved like a snail instead of snapping forward. It was at that point that I decided I had better clean it.  :rofl:
I know many shooting friends that have 1000s of rounds through their 10/22, 15/22, lever action, etc 22 without cleaning.  Those are mostly range fun and plinking, but I didn't notice any negative impacts.  However, that's for larger targets in the 10-30ish yard range.  Not for "more accuracy". 

How does bullet types impact how dirty the guns get?  Copper plated or not?  I believe most bulk ammo are not plated, so does lead bullets vs plate change anything in your approach?  Cleaning or in general?   

esk808

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #353 on: November 22, 2021, 10:38:15 AM »

Copper plated or not?  I believe most bulk ammo are not plated, so does lead bullets vs plate change anything in your approach?  Cleaning or in general?   

I was told early on by Anschutz Custom Shop to never ever shoot plated bullets through any of their rifles.  Leaves the plating inside the barrel that is difficult to remove.

Take a look:  There are no copper-plated (or otherwise) 22LR bullets in the premium category:  Eley, Lapua, RWS

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #354 on: November 22, 2021, 10:48:05 AM »
I was told early on by Anschutz Custom Shop to never ever shoot plated bullets through any of their rifles.  Leaves the plating inside the barrel that is difficult to remove.

Take a look:  There are no copper-plated (or otherwise) 22LR bullets in the premium category:  Eley, Lapua, RWS
Thanks!  I didn't notice that, but do now.  Wasn't even looking.  Though some of the Eley did look like it was shiny silvery, but not copper plated. 

I did some across some older .22 lr from my dad's stash, where the bullet heads seemed to have mushroomed slightly.  I was going to try shooting some in my CZ, but decided not to.  I did shoot some CCi Velocitors (only have that and mini-mags) last week.  Got some decent, or at least promising to me results.  I'll post a pic later of some groups I shot after zeroing. 

The Eley and Lapua ammo are on the way via Kaleo.  Got email update over the weekend from Jen.   :geekdanc:

Bushido

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #355 on: November 22, 2021, 07:14:20 PM »
I know many shooting friends that have 1000s of rounds through their 10/22, 15/22, lever action, etc 22 without cleaning.  Those are mostly range fun and plinking, but I didn't notice any negative impacts.  However, that's for larger targets in the 10-30ish yard range.  Not for "more accuracy". 

How does bullet types impact how dirty the guns get?  Copper plated or not?  I believe most bulk ammo are not plated, so does lead bullets vs plate change anything in your approach?  Cleaning or in general?   

You will see your accuracy improve as the barrel gets fouled. You need to lay down the lube of whatever ammo you are using. When switching ammo, it'll take a bit before it settles down because of the different lube. Cleaning is counterproductive IMO. Your rifle, you do you though just don't say I didn't tell you.

Clean the chamber often only. Remove the powder fouling from the bore. Done

Bushido

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #356 on: November 22, 2021, 07:18:07 PM »
Just like everything else.... don't believe everything you read on the interweb. Especially Rimfire Central. Do you own testing. I stopped going to RFC years ago and don't miss it at all

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #357 on: November 22, 2021, 09:18:51 PM »
You will see your accuracy improve as the barrel gets fouled. You need to lay down the lube of whatever ammo you are using. When switching ammo, it'll take a bit before it settles down because of the different lube. Cleaning is counterproductive IMO. Your rifle, you do you though just don't say I didn't tell you.

Clean the chamber often only. Remove the powder fouling from the bore. Done
Yeah. Some folks mentioned/cautioned the settling in after changing ammo.

Just like everything else.... don't believe everything you read on the interweb. Especially Rimfire Central. Do you own testing. I stopped going to RFC years ago and don't miss it at all
I don’t regularly read other forums. I am certainly down for my own testing. I like to test and see for myself anyways. That said, still appreciate lessons learned by other folks who have gone down this path first. 

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #358 on: November 24, 2021, 07:27:21 AM »
Bullet Central recently got a shipment of .22 lr ammo.  Got an email notification this morning.  Decent pricing on Lapua and SK, or at least at first glance of the email.  I like BC.  I have bought a bunch of stuff from them for my .308 and they've treated me well.  Their packing and shipping is great.  They also sent out a cleaning product (IOSSO for about $7-10) by mistake.  After contacting them, they shipped out the correct product and said keep the other one.  It was something I could use, so bonus.  Love CS like that. 

Bushido

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #359 on: November 24, 2021, 05:52:56 PM »
Bullet Central recently got a shipment of .22 lr ammo.  Got an email notification this morning.  Decent pricing on Lapua and SK, or at least at first glance of the email.  I like BC.  I have bought a bunch of stuff from them for my .308 and they've treated me well.  Their packing and shipping is great.  They also sent out a cleaning product (IOSSO for about $7-10) by mistake.  After contacting them, they shipped out the correct product and said keep the other one.  It was something I could use, so bonus.  Love CS like that.

I use their brushes for centerfire they're the best IMO. Way too stiff for rimfire I use boretech nylon. Even then a brush very rarely goes down the rimfire barrel.  Think about it ... very low velocity, no heat, lead projectile (soft), powder residue dirty. Just take the powder fouling out of the barrel to moisture doesn't cause rust. If you have lead buildup in your barrel, you got problems with the barrel not the cleaning regiment.

If you have experience with quality hand lapped custom centerfire barrels, you will know there's very little to no copper buildup in the barrel. Just clean the carbon and you're good.

This is not aimed at anyone in particular. Just stating the common sense of cleaning. Your money, your rifle, you do you.