.22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations (Read 139704 times)

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #680 on: May 31, 2022, 08:29:38 PM »
Chose some settings to shoot some 5 shot groups from the testing in steps of 2. Chose settings 1, 10, 20, 11, and 13. The chose 10 and 1 to finish off the box (below the orange dots). Will likely try one more round with 10-14 and 20. The 1 setting looked promising, but don’t like the results from settings either side. But that very well could have been me.

esk808

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #681 on: May 31, 2022, 11:15:56 PM »
Cool.  Good that your gun likes Eley Match.  I have 500 Lapua Midas+ that I want to test next, along with RWS Rifle Match and see how my Lilja barrel likes them.  So far, I am happy with the way the Lilja shoots the current lot of Eley that I tested.  I have two other lots on hand, with another batch on the way via Kaleo.  100 rounds of .22 lr goes by pretty quickly.

drck1000,

You must've come right after I left.  Akubone1 was still there when I left around 11 or so....

Actually, the Lilja barrels depend on which chamber reamer they used..... I think Lilja barrels shoot the Eley brand better than others, I have 2.
My Anschutz 2013 barrel from Lilja was chambered for Eley EPS bullet and shoots the Eley Tenex and Eley Match well.

Since the 2013 is a single-shot, they can make the chamber a little tighter than a repeater (just a little bit), since in a repeater, the bullet needs to go from the magazine
to the chamber without a failure to chamber.

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #682 on: June 01, 2022, 06:44:14 AM »
drck1000,

You must've come right after I left.  Akubone1 was still there when I left around 11 or so....

Actually, the Lilja barrels depend on which chamber reamer they used..... I think Lilja barrels shoot the Eley brand better than others, I have 2.
My Anschutz 2013 barrel from Lilja was chambered for Eley EPS bullet and shoots the Eley Tenex and Eley Match well.

Since the 2013 is a single-shot, they can make the chamber a little tighter than a repeater (just a little bit), since in a repeater, the bullet needs to go from the magazine
to the chamber without a failure to chamber.
Yeah, I think I got there right around 11.  The guys to my right (where the plate rack was) were setup, but I didn't know that wasn't their target.

You, or someone here mentioned that about Lilja.  I just set the shims per recommendation from Lilja and the video from Pursuit of Accuracy.  Will see how other ammo shoots, but I'm happy so far.  Don't think I'll experiment with other shims, at least not any time soon as long as the gun is functioning well.  Will probably shoot Eley Match for at least the next 1 or 2 range sessions.  Then clean and mix in either Lapua or RWS to try, but I've mostly stocked up on Eley. 

esk808

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #683 on: June 08, 2022, 10:14:01 AM »
Got a March 10-60x56 HM scope with FT reticle. 
Simple reticle with a few hash marks.  No need for a cluttered reticle (e.g. Horus) to shoot 1000 yards - only 50-100 yards at Kokohead, but hash marks are handy.

Compared it to my NF 15-55x52 with FCR-1 reticle.

Last Sunday, took both scopes to Kokohead and consecutively mounted them on the same rifle, under same conditions.

Through my eyes, the March is brighter, probably by virtue of a 34mm barrel vs. NF's 30mm barrel.

Is the March clearer? I don't know.
The NF, I thought was clear, maybe clearer than the March.

March definitely feels heavier and sturdier than the NF, but is it a better scope?

My eyes can't tell the difference except for the brighter March.

Is this perceived advantage worth the extra $$$ that March scopes retail at?

A look at BR shooters on the mainland and their equipment shows that the dominant BR 22 scope is NF.

"Paul Tolvstad
Here is the equipment list from the last Professional Shooting League match 2 weeks ago."
From FB Precision Rimfire.

You need to use your "zoom" on your browser to read the equipment chart.

« Last Edit: June 09, 2022, 09:07:34 AM by esk808 »

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #684 on: June 10, 2022, 11:10:39 AM »
These arrived yesterday. If I can get to the range this weekend, will try shooting it. Want to try it with my 6.5 and maybe .308 as well once I get the loads dialed in.

It’s a 100 pk. If anyone wants to try, just lmk. That means you CMO.  ;D

Akubone1

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #685 on: July 23, 2022, 10:56:18 AM »
Hopefully the my Vudoo rifle can get finished in the next few weeks.  Waiting for some minor parts.  The current windy weather is good for testing 22.

esk808

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #686 on: July 23, 2022, 01:32:45 PM »
Hopefully the my Vudoo rifle can get finished in the next few weeks.  Waiting for some minor parts.  The current windy weather is good for testing 22.

Looks great !   

Looks better than I imagined after reading about it on the Vudoo website.

What are you waiting for? scope?

Akubone1

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #687 on: July 23, 2022, 03:48:02 PM »
Scope, scope mount, MPA grip…I wanted to try a different size.

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #688 on: July 24, 2022, 11:17:11 AM »
Hopefully the my Vudoo rifle can get finished in the next few weeks.  Waiting for some minor parts.  The current windy weather is good for testing 22.
Awesome! 

Did you add an Area 419 Arca rail on the bottom?  To utilize the "teeth" for locking position?  I have both the Area 419 and RRS clamps for my bipods.  Both seems solid, but if I don't tighten the Area 419 clamp down really tight, I have noticed that it can move.  However, that is with centerfire. 

Minor parts like scope?  ;D 

I currently have a Vortex PST 4-16 on my CZ, but finding that I want a bit more power.  I have an Athlon Cronus 4.5-29 that I got recently that is slated for the CZ, but it's currently on one of my 6.5s while I wait for the scope for that setup that's on pre-order.  What kind of glass are you thinking for the Vudoo? 

Akubone1

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #689 on: July 24, 2022, 12:38:59 PM »
Awesome! 

Did you add an Area 419 Arca rail on the bottom?  To utilize the "teeth" for locking position?  I have both the Area 419 and RRS clamps for my bipods.  Both seems solid, but if I don't tighten the Area 419 clamp down really tight, I have noticed that it can move.  However, that is with centerfire. 

Minor parts like scope?  ;D 

I currently have a Vortex PST 4-16 on my CZ, but finding that I want a bit more power.  I have an Athlon Cronus 4.5-29 that I got recently that is slated for the CZ, but it's currently on one of my 6.5s while I wait for the scope for that setup that's on pre-order.  What kind of glass are you thinking for the Vudoo?

Yup used an extra area 419 rail.  I like to slide the bipod on and off…the MPA chassis didn’t allow that.  I was looking at the Sightron 10-50 but esk808 has me leaning towards the Nightforce 15-55 competition.  My other friend has a Tract that he said is good also.

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #690 on: July 24, 2022, 01:10:30 PM »
Yup used an extra area 419 rail.  I like to slide the bipod on and off…the MPA chassis didn’t allow that.  I was looking at the Sightron 10-50 but esk808 has me leaning towards the Nightforce 15-55 competition.  My other friend has a Tract that he said is good also.
I use the rail on the bottom of the MPA Comp BA chassis for the Arca clamps.  It is a bit of a pain to open up the clamp wide enough to get over the whole bottom section.  I considered adding an Area 419 Arch rail to my MPA Comp BA chassis for using the "teeth" of the Area 419 rail, but the RRS lever clamp is able to lock down "tight enough".

I considered going with a SFP target/competition scope, like the NF esk808 has.  Where the SFP allows a more refined reticle/focus.  For now, all my scopes are FFP, but that's primarily for centerfire and the different application.  If I get more serious into .22 lr, say with a Vudoo or Rimx, I may join esk808 (and maybe you) in the NF Competition scope arena.   :shake:

Exciting stuff.  Good to see more folks sharing their experiences.  Definitely pushes me to shot more .22 lr. 

Akubone1

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #691 on: August 07, 2022, 09:11:12 AM »
Shot the Vudoo for the first time this weekend.  Ran smoothly with no feeding or magazine issues.  Got sighted in and shot two lots of center x, SK Match, and Eley Match.  Vudoo said break in period is 2-3 bricks.  Groups were ok in 5-10 mph winds. 

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #692 on: August 07, 2022, 03:31:43 PM »
Shot the Vudoo for the first time this weekend.  Ran smoothly with no feeding or magazine issues.  Got sighted in and shot two lots of center x, SK Match, and Eley Match.  Vudoo said break in period is 2-3 bricks.  Groups were ok in 5-10 mph winds.
Awesome!  Which ammo did the rifle seem to like best?  At least so far.  Care to share any groups that were particularly impressive?   :thumbsup:

Darn, seems like I missed decent conditions for shooting some .22 lr and tuner setting testing.  My work schedule should calm down at least a little bit end of the month. 

Akubone1

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #693 on: August 07, 2022, 07:19:21 PM »
Awesome!  Which ammo did the rifle seem to like best?  At least so far.  Care to share any groups that were particularly impressive?   :thumbsup:

Darn, seems like I missed decent conditions for shooting some .22 lr and tuner setting testing.  My work schedule should calm down at least a little bit end of the month.

One lot of Centex X was ok…it didn’t like the other lot or the SK match.  Wind picked up so I shot steel with Norma Tac.  Vudoo claims the gun will settle in after a 1000 rnds or so.  I hope it does.  I dropped the trigger down to just under 4 oz.

esk808

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #694 on: August 07, 2022, 11:58:57 PM »
Shot the Vudoo for the first time this weekend.  Ran smoothly with no feeding or magazine issues.  Got sighted in and shot two lots of center x, SK Match, and Eley Match.  Vudoo said break in period is 2-3 bricks.  Groups were ok in 5-10 mph winds.

I see you went with the NF 15-55x scope................ :thumbsup:

That scope is at the top of the heap for 22LR shooting at any distance where 22LR is shot..........and then some............
« Last Edit: August 08, 2022, 10:29:23 AM by esk808 »

esk808

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #695 on: August 08, 2022, 02:22:29 AM »
Plan to get another stock for my Anschutz 54.30 with Shilen barrel.

Saw this stock on FB and looks amazing. 
Laminated wood, carbon fiber, and epoxy/fiberglass...........
The finish is what they call 100 gloss.

Here's a sample photo of what I'm talking about:


In contact with the company AS Rifle & Stock in Italy.
ETA is 3-4 months.

I'm going to need a local stockmaker/gunsmith to do the epoxy bedding, as no two actions are alike when it comes to bedding.

Costs are about $1400 + shipping to Hawaii......


I finally decided on the stock in the URL below.
https://www.facebook.com/100072536916958/videos/5293075550821781

I amended the numbers.  I made a mistake in calculation
« Last Edit: February 04, 2023, 12:35:47 PM by esk808 »

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #696 on: August 08, 2022, 01:37:22 PM »
One lot of Centex X was ok…it didn’t like the other lot or the SK match.  Wind picked up so I shot steel with Norma Tac.  Vudoo claims the gun will settle in after a 1000 rnds or so.  I hope it does.  I dropped the trigger down to just under 4 oz.
Did you try Eley Match?  Lmk if you don't have Eley Match and want to try some. 

How do you like the NF? 

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #697 on: August 08, 2022, 01:39:32 PM »
Plan to get another stock for my Anschutz 54.30 with Shilen barrel.

Saw this stock on FB and looks amazing.  Will have it without cheek riser or adjustable stock (LOP).
The finish is what they call 100 gloss.

In contact with the company As Rifle & Stock in Italy.
ETA is 3-4 months.


I finally decided on the stock in the linked video instead of the pictures below.

$1475 USD  stock with 100 gloss finish as pictured, laminated wood, carbon fiber and purple epoxy
    204 USD epoxy bedding for Anschutz 54.30 action
      51 USD trigger guard and hardware
$1730 USD (shipping costs later)

1450 Euro stock
  200 Euro bedding
    50 trigger
$1700 Euro
Whoa!  That's purrrty! 

Both you and Akubone upping the ante for bolt actions .22 lr.  I "plan" to stick with my current CZ 457 for a while, but damn those are some nice .22 lr rigs! 

Akubone1

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #698 on: August 08, 2022, 01:52:08 PM »
Did you try Eley Match?  Lmk if you don't have Eley Match and want to try some. 

How do you like the NF?

I have some Eley match and was pleasantly surprised with no feeding issues since the Vudoo is chambered for CenterX.  Eley match shoots good out of my CZ because Lilja is chambered for Eley. 

The nightforce is super clear…just need to get used to the fine hash marks. 

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #699 on: August 08, 2022, 02:19:14 PM »
1) I have some Eley match and was pleasantly surprised with no feeding issues since the Vudoo is chambered for CenterX.  Eley match shoots good out of my CZ because Lilja is chambered for Eley. 

2) The nightforce is super clear…just need to get used to the fine hash marks.
1) Awesome!  Glad to hear that!  I have stocked up on Eley Match.  With the tuner, I hope I can dial/adjust for differences in lots. 

2) I love NF optics.  But now I have to fight the urge to check out one for my .22 lr rifle.  ;D