Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations (Read 58692 times)

RSN172

Re: Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2021, 09:32:04 AM »
Since N95 masks are cheap right now, I recently bought 200 3M N95 Aura 9205+ masks. They have a 05/2026 exp date. I also got the J&J vaccine.  I don't care whether or not someone uses a mask or gets the vaccine.  It is their choice, just as using a mask and getting the vaccine was my choice. All I ask is just as I don't criticize someone's choice not to, don't criticize my choice
Happily living in Puna

aieahound

Re: Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2021, 09:32:46 AM »
Since N95 masks are cheap right now, I recently bought 200 3M N95 Aura 9205+ masks. They have a 05/2026 exp date. I also got the J&J vaccine.  I don't care whether or not someone uses a mask or gets the vaccine.  It is their choice, just as using a mask and getting the vaccine was my choice. All I ask is just as I don't criticize someone's choice not to, don't criticize my choice

Nutshell  :thumbsup:

As of yesterday per Green, its 85% vaxxed in the hospital.

Where’s that info from.
I can’t find it. My Google Fu is lagging.

Brystont1

Re: Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2021, 09:35:16 AM »
I think we can agree that you should not get the vaccine if you don’t want it.

And then take some personal responsibility if you get the covid, and stay home and deal with it, and not encumber hospitals with your decision to skip the vaccine.

I think we can all agree that you can be fat if you want to.

Then take some personal responsibility if you get diabetes, heart disease, stay home and deal with it, and not encumber hospitals with your decision to be fat.

hvybarrels

Re: Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2021, 09:39:23 AM »
I think we can agree that you should not get the vaccine if you don’t want it.

And then take some personal responsibility if you get the covid, and stay home and deal with it, and not encumber hospitals with your decision to skip the vaccine.

So what if the gene therapy turns out to be a really bad idea and the hospitals get flooded with clot shot casualties?

Are you officially volunteering to take some personal responsibility for your decision and stay home?
How much fire can a ceasefire cease if a ceasefire never ceased fire?

omnigun

Re: Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2021, 09:44:36 AM »
So what if the gene therapy turns out to be a really bad idea and the hospitals get flooded with clot shot casualties?

Are you officially volunteering to take some personal responsibility for your decision and stay home?

#fakenews

Its not gene therapy. 

RSN172

Re: Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2021, 09:44:42 AM »
I think we can all agree that you can be fat if you want to.

I don't know about that. When I was in my 20's and lifting weights, I wanted to gain weight and went on a expensive 6500 daily calorie diet (Joe Weider). I gained only 4 lbs after 2 weeks and stopped. A druggie acquaintance back then told me to smoke pakalolo if I want to gain weight. So some people have a hard time gaining weight. On the other hand, my wife's fat friend told me if she just looks at a chocolate shake she gains 5 lbs. LOL.
Happily living in Puna

Glasser

Re: Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2021, 09:54:10 AM »
Yup no 2 people's biology are the same but let's keep trying to force ONE medicine on EVERYONE for COVID.


What do they say about baskets and eggs?

changemyoil66

Re: Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2021, 10:00:00 AM »
I agree let's move to personal responsibility. If you are convinced that contact with other humans is putting your health and safety at risk then YOU should stay home, if you are certain that a mask will save you from catching an infection than YOU should wear one at all times. And if you think going to work is something  that will increase your chances of injury and death then YOU need to figure out another way to pay your rent and feed yourself. And let's give back responsibility to actual physicians to choose drugs and treatment for their patients instead of letting the government dictate options.



Also personal responsibility doesn't end just because you submitted to the will of a government, Nuremberg trials proved that.

Or lack of drugs.

changemyoil66

Re: Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations
« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2021, 10:02:26 AM »
Nutshell  :thumbsup:

Where’s that info from.
I can’t find it. My Google Fu is lagging.

Green post on his FB the number in hospital and of which are vaxxed.  The HI sate websites do not post that info.

aieahound

Re: Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations
« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2021, 10:05:59 AM »
Green post on his FB the number in hospital and of which are vaxxed.  The HI sate websites do not post that info.
Modifying post
No wonder I couldn’t find it. Facebook.
This one is a head scratcher.
Seriously. That info is only being reported on through Gonna try to be Governor Green’s FaceBook ?
And why the push to get vaxxed if 85% of the people in the hospital are vaxxed ?
Number sounds reversed but I could be wrong.
« Last Edit: August 25, 2021, 10:27:24 AM by aieahound »

groveler

Re: Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations
« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2021, 10:06:41 AM »
I agree let's move to personal responsibility. If you are convinced that contact with other humans is putting your health and safety at risk then YOU should stay home, if you are certain that a mask will save you from catching an infection than YOU should wear one at all times. And if you think going to work is something  that will increase your chances of injury and death then YOU need to figure out another way to pay your rent and feed yourself. And let's give back responsibility to actual physicians to choose drugs and treatment for their patients instead of letting the government dictate options.



Also personal responsibility doesn't end just because you submitted to the will of a government, Nuremberg trials proved that.
Amen!  Bra!
 :shaka:

Glasser

Re: Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations
« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2021, 10:09:03 AM »
CMO
You got the cite for the 85% of hospitalized were vaxxed.
If that’s true it’s blowing my mind.
If it’s not….

Don't know about the local data but Israel's infection  data for vaxxed is pretty gruesome. Death count is bad too and their 3rd shot results are not at all promising. Even the Head of WHO today was saying Boosters not looking good.

changemyoil66

Re: Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations
« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2021, 10:40:17 AM »
Don't know about the local data but Israel's infection  data for vaxxed is pretty gruesome. Death count is bad too and their 3rd shot results are not at all promising. Even the Head of WHO today was saying Boosters not looking good.

Pretty much other countries as well show around Israel's numbers. So what makes the US different?

changemyoil66

Re: Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations
« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2021, 10:55:23 AM »
Green FB post today, which isn't the stat post says "about 90% are unvaxxed". That's a stretch from 86%.  Unless today's numbers are closer like 89% then I'll give him the 90% usage.  I wonder how long before he removes the vaxx in his hospital count.

MauiAxis

Re: Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations
« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2021, 11:22:07 AM »
So what if the gene therapy turns out to be a really bad idea and the hospitals get flooded with clot shot casualties?

Are you officially volunteering to take some personal responsibility for your decision and stay home?

Well there are hundreds of millions of fully vaxed people worldwide, and very very few fatalities as a result of the vax. Not hard to do the rusk reward math on this one.

omnigun

Re: Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations
« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2021, 11:24:28 AM »
Well there are hundreds of millions of fully vaxed people worldwide, and very very few fatalities as a result of the vax. Not hard to do the rusk reward math on this one.

Not much reason can be done with some folks.  Apparently billions are going to randomly drop dead after X time or we all become infertile. 

MauiAxis

Re: Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations
« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2021, 11:26:03 AM »
I think we can all agree that you can be fat if you want to.

Then take some personal responsibility if you get diabetes, heart disease, stay home and deal with it, and not encumber hospitals with your decision to be fat.

Well, if obesity could be avoided by something as simple
As a vaccine, obesity rates would drop Precipitously. So your analogy is not applicable.

omnigun

Re: Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations
« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2021, 11:26:31 AM »
As of yesterday per Green, its 85% vaxxed in the hospital.

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#fakenews

I can't find anything even remotely like that claim.


Green FB post today, which isn't the stat post says "about 90% are unvaxxed". That's a stretch from 86%.  Unless today's numbers are closer like 89% then I'll give him the 90% usage.  I wonder how long before he removes the vaxx in his hospital count.

Wait didn't you just post that 85% are vaxxed?

omnigun

Re: Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations
« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2021, 11:30:01 AM »
Well, if obesity could be avoided by something as simple
As a vaccine, obesity rates would drop Precipitously. So your analogy is not applicable.

Closest would be if they invented a pill to lose weight there would be people protesting that its their right to be fat. 

*disclaimer*
I support peoples rights to be fat, if they want to kill themselves that's their life.  No one can catch fatness unwillingly and it isnt spread.

macsak

Re: Two serious questions for those opposed to mask and covid regulations
« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2021, 11:34:46 AM »
#fakenews

I can't find anything even remotely like that claim.


Wait didn't you just post that 85% are vaxxed?

it's on Lg green IG...