All feminist should support this.

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All feminist should support this.

And yet like all Dem policies it is super unpopular but they ram it down peoples throats anyhow.

I wonder how long it would take a draftee to get knocked up?
 

"The Pentagon will have to start drafting women..."

Fake news.  The Pentagon isn't drafting men, so they aren't about to start drafting women, either.

 

"The Pentagon will have to start drafting women..."

Fake news.  The Pentagon isn't drafting men, so they aren't about to start drafting women, either.

 

I'm pretty sure all men 18-25 ish have to register for the draft;  one of those "Just in case laws".
I think this just extends it to females.

I was legally required to register for the draft Vietnam era, at age 18.
I never did as I was in the Military at age 17, it seemed like a waste of my time.
Stupid laws.
 

I'm pretty sure all men 18-25 ish have to register for the draft;  one of those "Just in case laws".
I think this just extends it to females.

I was legally required to register for the draft Vietnam era, at age 18.
I never did as I was in the Military at age 17, it seemed like a waste of my time.
Stupid laws.
 

Yup remember those times well….
Early ‘68 enlisted in the Navy @ 17. Two months later I turned 18 and registered with the draft. Following day I was notified by the Navy to come in, sign papers, raise my right hand and go home till I was called. Two weeks after that received my draft notice, went to my recruiter and was told “no worries” and he would take care of it. Two months later Navy said to report for boot camp. Went home for two weeks after boot and a letter from the draft came in the mail telling me to report! What a cluster fluck! The Navy finally got things straightened out. Joined the Navy so I wouldn’t go to ‘Nam. After three service schools, guess where I wound up…. Forward twin 50 gunner on a PBR! HAH! Confusing times!

I'm pretty sure all men 18-25 ish have to register for the draft;  one of those "Just in case laws".
I think this just extends it to females.

I was legally required to register for the draft Vietnam era, at age 18.
I never did as I was in the Military at age 17, it seemed like a waste of my time.
Stupid laws.
 

You're correct.  All males 18 and over must register for the Selective Service program.

My comment was about the factually incorrect statement in the article saying, "The Pentagon will have to start drafting women..."

Registering for the draft and being drafted are two entirely different things.

They should have said, "Both men and women must now register for the draft."

As for the 18-25 age rules, you are supposed to register within 30 days of your 18th birthday.  You can register late up until your 26th birthday.  After that, you're no longer eligible to register.

The reason that matters is there are certain government benefits that require proof you registered with Selective Service as required, such as:

State based college grants and student loans in 31 states,
Federal Job Training under Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act
Federal (and many state and local) jobs
Up to a 5-year delay of U.S. citizenship proceedings for immigrants

To register after age 25, you have to show evidence that your failure to register was not willing or knowing.

https://www.sss.gov/register/men-26-and-older/

The draft is constitutionally questionable but beyond that applying it to only men and not women is pretty clearly sex based discrimination. It is interesting to see how people are coming down on this issue. You would expect conservatives to be against selective service but it seems they usually support it. But now they are taking a stance against it being constitutionally equal. And the opposite with democrats. Very interesting

Just me but I feel the US should model themselves after South Korea or Israel.

All males must do a mandatory tour of duty in the Military in South Korea.

In Israel all young men and women serve in the military.  Their personal weapons never leave their side.  They take them home.  After active service it is mandatory for men and women to serve in the reserves.  At one time men served in the reserves until age 54 and women till age 38, however that has changed and the ages has been lowered.

As far as women serving in combat roles in the US military, I'm fine with that.  Just meet the standards. Physical and mental.  Otherwise step aside and serve in another way.  Not meeting the standards will get people killed in combat.

Just me but I feel the US should model themselves after South Korea or Israel.

All males must do a mandatory tour of duty in the Military in South Korea.

In Israel all young men and women serve in the military.  Their personal weapons never leave their side.  They take them home.  After active service it is mandatory for men and women to serve in the reserves.  At one time men served in the reserves until age 54 and women till age 38, however that has changed and the ages has been lowered.

As far as women serving in combat roles in the US military, I'm fine with that.  Just meet the standards. Physical and mental.  Otherwise step aside and serve in another way.  Not meeting the standards will get people killed in combat.

Most northern EU countries close to Russia have 2 yrs of compulsory service and folks are required to keep at least one service rifle in their home. There are ways to get out of Service but all those 'socialist' freebies are then out of reach. Pretty sure Switzerland does as well.

S.korea has a deferment and culture of serving. A few BTS guys hitting max age soon and have to serve. They could get a waiver, but then their korea based fans would look down upon them.

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The draft is constitutionally questionable but beyond that applying it to only men and not women is pretty clearly sex based discrimination. It is interesting to see how people are coming down on this issue. You would expect conservatives to be against selective service but it seems they usually support it. But now they are taking a stance against it being constitutionally equal. And the opposite with democrats. Very interesting

I think you'll find most guys don't support the draft, but there is a law buried somewhere that all males 18 to 50(ish)
that are American citizens are already in the Militia, Automatically. This may have changed around the Civil war.
In any event the only Constitutionally authorized full time military is the Navy.  Coast guard is just to collect excise taxes,
and no standing army, just us militia men as reserves.  That why we have this pesky 2nd amendment thing that
allows for personal ownership of military grade arms and top notch equipment in working order( well regulated).
The full time army and air force is illegal, we are the army, by law.  No need to draft us.
Times have changed and it seem prudent to have a full time Army since we seem to stick our noses everywhere.
As long as we don't have Democrats running a conflict  we seem to be able to keep enough professional soldiers
around to do the job.
 

I think you'll find most guys don't support the draft, but there is a law buried somewhere that all males 18 to 50(ish)
that are American citizens are already in the Militia, Automatically. This may have changed around the Civil war.
In any event the only Constitutionally authorized full time military is the Navy.  Coast guard is just to collect excise taxes,
and no standing army, just us militia men as reserves.  That why we have this pesky 2nd amendment thing that
allows for personal ownership of military grade arms and top notch equipment in working order( well regulated).
The full time army and air force is illegal, we are the army, by law.  No need to draft us.
Times have changed and it seem prudent to have a full time Army since we seem to stick our noses everywhere.
As long as we don't have Democrats running a conflict  we seem to be able to keep enough professional soldiers
around to do the job.
 

The Constitution gives the federal government the authority to "raise and support armies."  The duration of that army is limited to 2 years, after which the Congress must once again vote to continue funding that army.  Since the length of term for an elected Representative is 2 years, the 2-year rule for armies seemed like a reasonable timeframe.  If the people objected to continuing a conflict or standing army, they could replace Representatives with those who would vote against it.

A few military and wartime clauses exist in the Constitution, including:

Article I, Section 8: 

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises,
to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United
States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
...
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
...

The Supreme Court has ruled on many cases by saying the draft/Selective Service is Constitutional.  The wording "raise and support armies" has been interpreted to include the involuntary enlistment into the army for fulfillment of one's duty to help defend the nation.

Lots of writings on the subject, since it has been around since after the Revolution.

The US never bothers to actually declare war before they go and start sh*t around the world anymore (ACT OF CONGRESS). So I dont know why anyone is worried about the draft. China could invade Taiwan tomorrow and I doubt you could get enough votes to make a war official. And CiC Biden would just ignore them any way.


Like all Dems laws, its Lip Service and Virtue Signaling, all 'philosophy' no logic or substance.


Yes - I know Korea and Viet Nam were not declared wars and had drafts. I dont see anyone going down those roads ever again.

The US never bothers to actually declare war before they go and start sh*t around the world anymore (ACT OF CONGRESS). So I dont know why anyone is worried about the draft. China could invade Taiwan tomorrow and I doubt you could get enough votes to make a war official. And CiC Biden would just ignore them any way.


Like all Dems laws, its Lip Service and Virtue Signaling, all 'philosophy' no logic or substance.


Yes - I know Korea and Viet Nam were not declared wars and had drafts. I dont see anyone going down those roads ever again.

The primary reason we never declare war is we are charter members of the United Nations.

Declaration of war

Since 1945, developments in international law such as the United Nations Charter, which
prohibits both the threat and the use of force in international conflicts, have made declarations
of war largely obsolete in international relations.[1] The UN Security Council, under powers
granted in articles 24 and 25, and Chapter VII of the Charter, may authorize collective action
to maintain or enforce international peace and security. Article 51 of the United Nations (UN)
Charter also states that: "Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right to
individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a state."[2]

Few nations have formally declared war upon another since then. In addition to this, non-state
or terrorist organizations may claim to or be described as "declaring war" when engaging in
violent acts.[3] These declarations may have no legal standing in themselves, but they may still
act as a call to arms for supporters of these organizations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war

This is why the Korean War was called a "Police Action" officially by the US and our allies -- not a war.

Just me but I feel the US should model themselves after South Korea or Israel.

I certainly see the benefits of that but it really makes me feel uneasy that any government has the power to force its citizens to join a military and control its citizens. When in the military you actually lose some constitutional rights and other freedoms. Plus a forced pledge or oath is never a real one.