Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation? (Read 8474 times)

drck1000

Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
« on: September 07, 2021, 07:58:47 AM »
How has the recent situation on firearm and ammunition availability and pricing affected you? 

Has it slowed down your enjoyment of shooting?  Has it made you put off purchasing of firearms?  If so, what were you looking for?

Has recent events been a wakeup call for you, or those that you know?   

For me, there are probably a few handguns that I may have looked to buy if I hadn't gotten back into the bolt action thing.  The most impact for me has been reloading components.  I was able to get what I needed, but at a higher price and probably not as wide range of components to try.  The latter may actually be a good thing as I forced me to focus on working with what I could get and luckily I was able to get at least decent components.

As for wake up call, not me.  Maybe highlighted things many shooting enthusiasts have know and been saying to folks for many years.  Don't have any close friends that were caught unawares and were scrambling to acquire a firearm. 

stangzilla

Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2021, 08:06:46 AM »
Colt Anaconda is top of my list. but cant find anywhere for less than $2k for the 2021 model on shops in the mainland.  locally, haha, good luck!
i would also get a lever action 44 magnum, the Marlin Stainless one with the full rail.  that would be 2nd on my list, but if i would get either one if i saw it at a shop
I still go shooting almost every week, but limit my rounds to 50 centerfire or more if i got some reloads, 100-150 22LR per trip to the range

drck1000

Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2021, 08:14:14 AM »
Colt Anaconda is top of my list. but cant find anywhere for less than $2k for the 2021 model on shops in the mainland.  locally, haha, good luck!
i would also get a lever action 44 magnum, the Marlin Stainless one with the full rail.  that would be 2nd on my list, but if i would get either one if i saw it at a shop
I still go shooting almost every week, but limit my rounds to 50 centerfire or more if i got some reloads, 100-150 22LR per trip to the range
A lever action .357 Mag has been on my want list for a while.  Combination of bad timing of gun I want not being in stock, as well as available funding haven't lined up.  That's another gun that I think is still on the list, but behind other gun projects. 

I haven't been shooting as much in the past year or so, but mostly due to COVID and being busy.  I had been shooting, taking shooting classes, etc just before things were shut down due to COVID.  There have been shooting classes being offered here and there, but the folks doing those courses also diversified during COVID and haven't been putting on classes as often. 

When i do go shooting, I have cut back on how much I shoot in any given range day.  Many times I find myself in a "that's enough for today" whereas in the past I typically would have shot more.   :(

oldfart

Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2021, 08:21:22 AM »
Due to the stupid high prices, Y'all know that I've been attempting to help out parents and newbies with lower-cost ammo.
Sometimes I even give out free ammo.
Especially if it gets kids out to the shooting range.
Obviously if kids don't get interested, everything will collapse in a few years.
What, Me Worry?

aletheuo137

Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2021, 08:24:35 AM »
How has the recent situation on firearm and ammunition availability and pricing affected you? 

Has it slowed down your enjoyment of shooting?  Has it made you put off purchasing of firearms?  If so, what were you looking for?

Has recent events been a wakeup call for you, or those that you know?   

For me, there are probably a few handguns that I may have looked to buy if I hadn't gotten back into the bolt action thing.  The most impact for me has been reloading components.  I was able to get what I needed, but at a higher price and probably not as wide range of components to try.  The latter may actually be a good thing as I forced me to focus on working with what I could get and luckily I was able to get at least decent components.

As for wake up call, not me.  Maybe highlighted things many shooting enthusiasts have know and been saying to folks for many years.  Don't have any close friends that were caught unawares and were scrambling to acquire a firearm.
A few purchases but more reloading equipment purchased. I was on the fence with reloading but now...

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drck1000

Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2021, 08:36:58 AM »
Due to the stupid high prices, Y'all know that I've been attempting to help out parents and newbies with lower-cost ammo.
Sometimes I even give out free ammo.
Especially if it gets kids out to the shooting range.
Obviously if kids don't get interested, everything will collapse in a few years.
Yeah, and good on you for that.  Need to keep the younger or next generation interested an engaged. 

stangzilla

Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2021, 08:42:54 AM »
i am reloading more often than i did before.  try to do something every week.  maybe not completely reloading ammo but at least sort some brass, or deprime, or clean, or something to get some steps out of the way
i also have been hoarding more than ever out of fear of running out of ammo or reloading supplies   :shaka:

drck1000

Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2021, 08:43:27 AM »
A few purchases but more reloading equipment purchased. I was on the fence with reloading but now...

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Similar for me.  I got into reloading mostly for my bolt gun, but now that I've gotten going, will be doing reloading for 9 mm now.  Maybe revolver calibers as well eventually.   

drck1000

Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2021, 08:52:37 AM »
i am reloading more often than i did before.  try to do something every week.  maybe not completely reloading ammo but at least sort some brass, or deprime, or clean, or something to get some steps out of the way
i also have been hoarding more than ever out of fear of running out of ammo or reloading supplies   :shaka:
That was the plan when I started reloading for rifle.  To have stuff in various stages and get into somewhat of a normal rhythm on reloading, but then I super busy.  Now I'm at the phase of a bunch of brass that was shot and start brass prep process and then planning on loading up some virgin brass for next round of testing and get to once-fired state. 

I've built up a decent amount of reloading supplies and always on the lookout for more.  Even to the point where I have backup components, but still always on the lookout for what I've been using.  Better/match primers are probably the one that I'm always on the lookout for.  I'm "ok" on powder, at least for now, but if powder availability and other components were better, I would likely have expanded more, but need more time for reloading sessions as well as range sessions. 

changemyoil66

Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2021, 09:05:03 AM »
For me, it put off shooting as much.  Because knowing what ever I shoot, I have to replace is what gets to me.  Which means paying premium to replace X amount that we shot.  I don't mind buying from LGS, but refuse to buy from gougers via private sale.  So I have been buying from SEC for 9 and 223.

Then there's the 1911 thing.  The delay in the PTA is 1 issue. Then the lack of availability is another.  I checked with multiple LGS and none have either 1911 in stock and have no clue when it will be available.  Young Guns ETA was a year. SEC has a 7 month back order for the P320, so any more uncommon gun would be even longer.  Then the ammo for said 1911 (45), which I don't have at all. Next options would be gun broker or like sites.  But a $1600 M45A1 was going for at cheapest $2K used and $3600 NIB average.  Which at that price, I might as well go Nighthawk or something.

So in the end, we got what we need and anything else can wait until things are back to normal. Who knows when that will happen though. 

drck1000

Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2021, 09:32:02 AM »
1) For me, it put off shooting as much.  Because knowing what ever I shoot, I have to replace is what gets to me.  Which means paying premium to replace X amount that we shot.  I don't mind buying from LGS, but refuse to buy from gougers via private sale.  So I have been buying from SEC for 9 and 223.

2) Then there's the 1911 thing.  The delay in the PTA is 1 issue. Then the lack of availability is another.  I checked with multiple LGS and none have either 1911 in stock and have no clue when it will be available.  Young Guns ETA was a year. SEC has a 7 month back order for the P320, so any more uncommon gun would be even longer.  Then the ammo for said 1911 (45), which I don't have at all. Next options would be gun broker or like sites.  But a $1600 M45A1 was going for at cheapest $2K used and $3600 NIB average.  Which at that price, I might as well go Nighthawk or something.

3) So in the end, we got what we need and anything else can wait until things are back to normal. Who knows when that will happen though.
1) Similar for me.  Replacing what I got, especially since I was lucky to have "geared up" prior COVID, civil unrest, etc.  I had been starting to shoot more often so I had planned ahead to get more ammo, but that's mostly for 9 mm.  Didn't do that for 5.56.223.  I have noticed that pricing at LGS have been going down, so hopeful that it will get to a point where I will start buying again.

2) Yeah, that's another factor.  For $3600, you're still a decent jump into the Nighthawk or Wilson range.  I  :shake: to think that the lead times on one of those are.

3) That's good, but also very much depends on timing.  Even for me, I missed out on the days of the cheap(er) AKs and SKSs and stuff.  9 mm AR is one gun I missed the boat on lesser expensive options and being readily available. 

DEROS

Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2021, 10:36:36 AM »
Recent events and the realization that our constitutional rights is being chipped away, woke me up.  (Does that make me Woke?). Anyway…

I told my kid to get a collage loan to pay for his education.  I used the money that I saved over the years for his College to buy more guns and ammo.

Waiting for the Liberals to forgive collage loans before the 2022 mid term.  It’s going to happen because

This is what I bought over the past six months.  Yes, $5-6k pulling ammo and guns where/when I can.

SF AR15, SF 1911 45, SW 40, G17 9;  1000rds 9mm, 500rds 45, 200rds 40cal, 1000rds 5.56. 

When I run out of money, I will raid my second son college fund.  Looking at buying a shotgun to round up my collection and maybe reloading equipment.  Also looking at buying a Staccato C2, especially if SCOTUS rules in favor of public carry.


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drck1000

Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2021, 11:03:40 AM »
Recent events and the realization that our constitutional rights is being chipped away, woke me up.  (Does that make me Woke?). Anyway…

I told my kid to get a collage loan to pay for his education.  I used the money that I saved over the years for his College to buy more guns and ammo.

Waiting for the Liberals to forgive collage loans before the 2022 mid term.  It’s going to happen because

This is what I bought over the past six months.  Yes, $5-6k pulling ammo and guns where/when I can.

SF AR15, SF 1911 45, SW 40, G17 9;  1000rds 9mm, 500rds 45, 200rds 40cal, 1000rds 5.56. 

When I run out of money, I will raid my second son college fund.  Looking at buying a shotgun to round up my collection and maybe reloading equipment.  Also looking at buying a Staccato C2, especially if SCOTUS rules in favor of public carry.


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On the realization of 2a rights and others, I hadn't thought about the recent events in that light, but yeah, I can see that.  Maybe something that many of the folks on here saw over the past many years. 

A shooting buddy has a Staccato, but not sure which one.  He asked if I wanted to try it at a couple of range sessions, but I've resisted.  Don't need any more guns to add to the "want list".  That and I have a few other handguns that I don't shoot that much already, like my CZ Shadow and 1911s.  Those 2011s seem pretty tempting though. 

Not sure if you were serious about the fund source.  But hopefully everything works out for the best. 

macsak

Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2021, 11:48:56 AM »
On the realization of 2a rights and others, I hadn't thought about the recent events in that light, but yeah, I can see that.  Maybe something that many of the folks on here saw over the past many years. 

A shooting buddy has a Staccato, but not sure which one.  He asked if I wanted to try it at a couple of range sessions, but I've resisted.  Don't need any more guns to add to the "want list".  That and I have a few other handguns that I don't shoot that much already, like my CZ Shadow and 1911s.  Those 2011s seem pretty tempting though. 

Not sure if you were serious about the fund source.  But hopefully everything works out for the best.

you should gift those to "a friend" who owns no firearms...

drck1000

Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2021, 11:58:26 AM »
you should gift those to "a friend" who owns no firearms...
Why?  They only going shoot low and left, and going give those firearms a bad reputation. . .  :rofl:

macsak

Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2021, 12:05:44 PM »
Why?  They only going shoot low and left, and going give those firearms a bad reputation. . .  :rofl:

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stangzilla

Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2021, 12:25:20 PM »
since covid and some shops limiting the number of customers in the shop, I don't really browse new/used guns too much anymore.  I have this plan of getting in and out of the shop as fast as i can. maybe helps me spend less money on new guns, but I might miss something I really want

stangzilla

Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2021, 12:34:24 PM »
if Colt is hurting for sales, as I'm sure they are, make more Pythons and Anacondas.
there are plenty of people out there that would buy their overpriced revolvers, including me. 
want to make more money, make more guns.  simple.  they supposed to ramp up their production this summer.  well, summer is over.  Where's my Anaconda???  :'( :'( :'(

drck1000

Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2021, 12:52:15 PM »
since covid and some shops limiting the number of customers in the shop, I don't really browse new/used guns too much anymore.  I have this plan of getting in and out of the shop as fast as i can. maybe helps me spend less money on new guns, but I might miss something I really want
Yeah, I can see that.  Or just hanging out to talk story a bit.  I used to talk story more to the SEC folks that I used to shoot with often.  I mean I still talk story a bit, but mostly like you just get what I am going there for and get out.  Not really a lurker on used guns, but I would get talked into handling a new handgun or rifle here and there.  That's how one SEC guy got me into buying the CZ Shadow.  I blame him. . . In his defense, he was trying to get me to buy his CZ orange one, but I was resisting.   ;D

if Colt is hurting for sales, as I'm sure they are, make more Pythons and Anacondas.
there are plenty of people out there that would buy their overpriced revolvers, including me. 
want to make more money, make more guns.  simple.  they supposed to ramp up their production this summer.  well, summer is over.  Where's my Anaconda???  :'( :'( :'(
I recall something the older Colt handguns were more handfit or otherwise labor intensive, whereas the new productions were not.  Or at least not as much.  Wonder if that's a supply chain issue of parts.  I know that came into play with a couple of gun related orders over the last year.  One delayed my annealer about 2 months waiting for one part.

hvybarrels

Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2021, 01:11:21 PM »
I've taken what I would have spent on ammo and put it towards garden tools instead. I think I went shooting once last year.
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.