Is that CMO's type?

Well, he looked for action with them.

Is that CMO's type?

I dont discriminate.

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Only if they can prove jurisdiction and that it was within the statute of limitations

You aren't too observant.  It doen't matter.
They run you through the "system" even if they know they will lose.
The damage to your savings, reputation, and disruption in your life is what they want.
From street cops to the highest levels of government, they can do as they damn well
please and as long as they are union or party members,  us "little people" have very little
legal recourse's
It is notable that the "ambulance chasing" lawyer that destroyed a man's life and reputation
was assassinated on his front porch,
is now a cold case.
Nobody saw anything.
 

It is notable that the "ambulance chasing" lawyer that destroyed a man's life and reputation was assassinated on his front porch,
is now a cold case.
Nobody saw anything.
 

The killer was smart. He saved himself the hardest part, getting rid of the body.

You aren't too observant.  It doen't matter.
They run you through the "system" even if they know they will lose.
The damage to your savings, reputation, and disruption in your life is what they want.
From street cops to the highest levels of government, they can do as they damn well
please and as long as they are union or party members,  us "little people" have very little
legal recourse's
It is notable that the "ambulance chasing" lawyer that destroyed a man's life and reputation
was assassinated on his front porch,
is now a cold case.
Nobody saw anything.
 

If an officer arrested someone without knowing where the crime occurred or whether it occurred recently enough the arrested person would be in line for quite a big payout.  However I was half making a joke anyway.

If an officer arrested someone without knowing where the crime occurred or whether it occurred recently enough the arrested person would be in line for quite a big payout.  However I was half making a joke anyway.

You have to prove the officer knowingly violated your rights or department policy before any "big payout."

A payout doesn't give you back the time you spent in jail, meeting with lawyers, losing sleep, looking for a new job, losing your marriage, etc.  Getting arrested for something can ruin your life even if you're acquitted and compensated.

Most states pay wrongly convicted inmates $50K/year they were incarcerated.  In that time, you probably lost your house, your car, all your clothes, electronics, and the household items that you accumulated over your lifetime.  Not exactly a fair trade.

And that "big payout" can take years as the state/city drags it through appeals courts and continuances.  That's why most litigants settle.

You can joke about it, but the fact remains that Cops enjoy qualified immunity, are often the keepers of the evidence you need to prove your case, and that evidence can be accidentally "lost".  This is why more and more people record every LE encounter themselves rather than trust the Cop's body camera is working and any video recorded will be turned over when requested.

The more I watch the YT videos of Cops lying, falsifying reports, violating the law and our rights, and using bullying tactics to intimidate us to comply, the more I think law enforcement is less about public safety and more about "arrest them all and let the courts sort it out."

"To protect and serve".  All police recruits will say but too few will ever abide by.

You have to prove the officer knowingly violated your rights or department policy before any "big payout."

A payout doesn't give you back the time you spent in jail, meeting with lawyers, losing sleep, looking for a new job, losing your marriage, etc.  Getting arrested for something can ruin your life even if you're acquitted and compensated.

Most states pay wrongly convicted inmates $50K/year they were incarcerated.  In that time, you probably lost your house, your car, all your clothes, electronics, and the household items that you accumulated over your lifetime.  Not exactly a fair trade.

And that "big payout" can take years as the state/city drags it through appeals courts and continuances.  That's why most litigants settle.

You can joke about it, but the fact remains that Cops enjoy qualified immunity, are often the keepers of the evidence you need to prove your case, and that evidence can be accidentally "lost".  This is why more and more people record every LE encounter themselves rather than trust the Cop's body camera is working and any video recorded will be turned over when requested.

The more I watch the YT videos of Cops lying, falsifying reports, violating the law and our rights, and using bullying tactics to intimidate us to comply, the more I think law enforcement is less about public safety and more about "arrest them all and let the courts sort it out."

You would have to prove that he wasn't acting in good faith. So if, for example, I said out loud I once stole something from Walmart and the officer arrested me right then and there then he would be in trouble because he didn't even attempt to prove venue or that the statute of limitations was still valid. The officer wouldn't have been acting in good faith if he did this.

If someone online admitted to a defensive gun use realistically it isn't going to go anywhere unless there was some murder or felony assault case was opened and the cops were investigating. A cop isn't going to watch 2aHawaii and go make a case because one guy here told a defensive gun use case not tied to anything. Good luck even getting a search warrant based on that.

I think cops run the spectrum. Some are jaded and don't care, like the cop that found my stolen car. Others are eager to catch the bad guys but are a little too aggressive in doing so. Others do manage to find the right balance of catching the bad guys but not stepping over the line in terms of restricting freedoms.

You would have to prove that he wasn't acting in good faith. So if, for example, I said out loud I once stole something from Walmart and the officer arrested me right then and there then he would be in trouble because he didn't even attempt to prove venue or that the statute of limitations was still valid. The officer wouldn't have been acting in good faith if he did this.

If someone online admitted to a defensive gun use realistically it isn't going to go anywhere unless there was some murder or felony assault case was opened and the cops were investigating. A cop isn't going to watch 2aHawaii and go make a case because one guy here told a defensive gun use case not tied to anything. Good luck even getting a search warrant based on that.

I think cops run the spectrum. Some are jaded and don't care, like the cop that found my stolen car. Others are eager to catch the bad guys but are a little too aggressive in doing so. Others do manage to find the right balance of catching the bad guys but not stepping over the line in terms of restricting freedoms.

If you confess to theft in front of a Cop, and he arrests you, who's at fault again?  He may TRY to investigate, but if you clam up (5th amendment), is be acting in good faith.  He arrests, the detectives investigate, and the DA decides if you get charged.  Cops are not fortune tellers.  They don't know when the crime occurred if you don't tell them.  But your confession, if caught on body camera, and if not solicited by law enforcement in anyway, is a voluntary admission.  It can at least get you an obstructing the officer's official duties charge.  I see that as no different than being overheard in an airport saying you have a bomb in your bag.  Doesn't have to be true or provable.  Your statement is the evidence.  The crime is whatever they can throw at you for being an idiot.

When did we pivot to whether or not Online stories about DGU are going to be investigated?  Not sure how that even applies to the DGU topic or DGU surveys.  Just bored?

You have to prove the officer knowingly violated your rights or department policy before any "big payout."

A payout doesn't give you back the time you spent in jail, meeting with lawyers, losing sleep, looking for a new job, losing your marriage, etc.  Getting arrested for something can ruin your life even if you're acquitted and compensated.

Most states pay wrongly convicted inmates $50K/year they were incarcerated.  In that time, you probably lost your house, your car, all your clothes, electronics, and the household items that you accumulated over your lifetime.  Not exactly a fair trade.

And that "big payout" can take years as the state/city drags it through appeals courts and continuances.  That's why most litigants settle.

You can joke about it, but the fact remains that Cops enjoy qualified immunity, are often the keepers of the evidence you need to prove your case, and that evidence can be accidentally "lost".  This is why more and more people record every LE encounter themselves rather than trust the Cop's body camera is working and any video recorded will be turned over when requested.

The more I watch the YT videos of Cops lying, falsifying reports, violating the law and our rights, and using bullying tactics to intimidate us to comply, the more I think law enforcement is less about public safety and more about "arrest them all and let the courts sort it out."

Common tactic is a miss labeled bodycam file and its lost forever.

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Common tactic is a miss labeled bodycam file and its lost forever.

I saw that YT video, too!   

Yeah, Cops planting, losing or burying evidence isn't new.  The YT audit folks always remind us to use a dash cam and/or cellphone to record all encounters with police.  You can't rely on the Cop's dash or body cameras to be working, turned on, aimed the right way, or picking up everyone's audio.  The video files can be deleted (by people with access), mislabeled (bogus case number) or just never uploaded (oops!  Can't find my camera! Must have gotten pulled off in the struggle.).

The problem I've had with every dash cam I bought is the batteries are too small to provide more than a couple minutes power when the ignition switch is off.  That's a problem if you're told to turn off your engine and remove the keys.  If you can leave the key inserted and "Accessories" mode on, you can still power the camera, but don't count on being able to do that.

I have one of those external devices that can jump-start my truck if the battery dies. It also can charge cellphones and other electronics.  I was thinking of plugging that into the car to continuously charge it, and to power the camera when the ignition's off. 

My 2001 Dodge Ram has 2 factory power outlets. One key control and one always hot.

My 2001 Dodge Ram has 2 factory power outlets. One key control and one always hot.

I believe my Tacoma has that, but I don't want the camera to be draining my truck battery for days on end sitting in my garage.

My camera is actually connected directly to the fuse box using a fuse tap.  I used to jam a wire into a fuse slot and wedge the fuse back in.  The tap is neater and in most cases won't void your auto warranty.

Since I'm using the fuse panel, I can select a circuit that's always on, on with ACC and START, or just START.  I know that even a small device on the truck battery is enough to drain it.  I've had a dead battery more than once after the vehicle's interior light was left on overnight. 

I believe my Tacoma has that, but I don't want the camera to be draining my truck battery for days on end sitting in my garage.

Just gotta remember to pull the plug.

Just gotta remember to pull the plug.

Yeah, we all know how that goes!  Hands full of packages, in a hurry ....   

Then there's the real possibility of forgetting to plug it in, too.  Not very useful without power!

When did we pivot to whether or not Online stories about DGU are going to be investigated?  Not sure how that even applies to the DGU topic or DGU surveys.  Just bored?

Grovler said he can't tell his story because democrats will investigate him.

I saw that YT video, too!   

Yeah, Cops planting, losing or burying evidence isn't new.  The YT audit folks always remind us to use a dash cam and/or cellphone to record all encounters with police.  You can't rely on the Cop's dash or body cameras to be working, turned on, aimed the right way, or picking up everyone's audio.  The video files can be deleted (by people with access), mislabeled (bogus case number) or just never uploaded (oops!  Can't find my camera! Must have gotten pulled off in the struggle.).

The problem I've had with every dash cam I bought is the batteries are too small to provide more than a couple minutes power when the ignition switch is off.  That's a problem if you're told to turn off your engine and remove the keys.  If you can leave the key inserted and "Accessories" mode on, you can still power the camera, but don't count on being able to do that.

I have one of those external devices that can jump-start my truck if the battery dies. It also can charge cellphones and other electronics.  I was thinking of plugging that into the car to continuously charge it, and to power the camera when the ignition's off.

Depending on the brand this could be a problem. I think some of the more professional brands this would be much more difficult to do. Cameras have GPS, they apparently communicate with the Tasers and each other, and videos are tracked by officers as well incident type. An administrator could probably delete the videos but there would be a record of that too.

Depending on the brand this could be a problem. I think some of the more professional brands this would be much more difficult to do. Cameras have GPS, they apparently communicate with the Tasers and each other, and videos are tracked by officers as well incident type. An administrator could probably delete the videos but there would be a record of that too.

Dude, you need to be online during normal working ours from 8am-5pm., Monday-Friday.  Excluding state of federal holidays.   That way you can at least get better responses from me. 

Depending on the brand this could be a problem. I think some of the more professional brands this would be much more difficult to do. Cameras have GPS, they apparently communicate with the Tasers and each other, and videos are tracked by officers as well incident type. An administrator could probably delete the videos but there would be a record of that too.

I'm not sure what "problem" you're describing.  Brand of what?  Dash cam?  Body cam?

My dash cam has GPS that records location, speed and direction of travel. 

If you're simply focused on the Cops deleting or hiding video recordings, no matter how elaborate the system, Cops (or anyone) can usually find a workaround.

Not a huge leap of the imagination to see a Cop putting a bogus court case on a given video recording in the system.  When someone pulls up the videos associated with the real case number, that one doesn't appear.

If the Cop is accused of intentionally hiding video footage, and the case is 1 digit or letter off, it's easy to plea "Honest mistake."

Evidence goes missing all the time.  I don't expect video to be any different.

I'm not sure what "problem" you're describing.  Brand of what?  Dash cam?  Body cam?

My dash cam has GPS that records location, speed and direction of travel. 

If you're simply focused on the Cops deleting or hiding video recordings, no matter how elaborate the system, Cops (or anyone) can usually find a workaround.

Not a huge leap of the imagination to see a Cop putting a bogus court case on a given video recording in the system.  When someone pulls up the videos associated with the real case number, that one doesn't appear.

If the Cop is accused of intentionally hiding video footage, and the case is 1 digit or letter off, it's easy to plea "Honest mistake."

Evidence goes missing all the time.  I don't expect video to be any different.

Sorry, body camera. I have read about the Axon brand, the ones that make the Taser. One of the features they also offer is cloud storage of the video, so even if the chief of police personally deleted the video there would be a record somewhere else.

No system is fullproof of course but generally the idea is making it harder to cheat or abuse.