Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming? (Read 7936 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming?
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2021, 01:15:34 PM »
Some people are saying that a war is already being waged, but it is some kind of 5th gen war, which involves information / misinformation.

If you grew up in the Cold War era, you know that wars are not always fought with a military.  One of the most effective tools in the Cold War was information, disinformation, and pure propaganda.

When it comes to the current state of the US, it's obvious we have a press/media that's doing exactly that for one party.  The big tech giants have replaced the broadcast TV stations and newspapers.

If you can convince more than 3/4 of the people that one side is right and everyone else is evil, the momentum is on your side.  At that point, the winning side will be able to take over the government, the courts and have a good grasp on corporations.

So, yeah.  This current war is not new.  It's just being exposed more now due to free access to the Internet.  That's why big tech is trying to censor anyone who presents a threat ideologically or factually.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aletheuo137

Re: Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming?
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2021, 01:50:33 PM »
Well I refuse to argue with a self appointed “scholar” who is actually a young punk idiot. BTW we are supposed to be a republic….When asked, Ben Franklin was asked what type of government will we have and his response was “a republic if we can keep it”. Guess we’ve failed miserably!
I wouldn't give him the time of day.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming?
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2021, 02:19:32 PM »
I wouldn't give him the time of day.

That would be best.  No matter what time you said, you'd be wrong.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming?
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2021, 02:24:23 PM »
Well I refuse to argue with a self appointed “scholar” who is actually a young punk idiot. BTW we are supposed to be a republic….When asked, Ben Franklin was asked what type of government will we have and his response was “a republic if we can keep it”. Guess we’ve failed miserably!

Deeds Not Words

mrgaf

Re: Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming?
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2021, 02:42:47 PM »
I wouldn't give him the time of day.

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I’ve said my piece and I’m done with the dipshit…..
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

aletheuo137

Re: Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming?
« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2021, 03:09:46 PM »
I’ve said my piece and I’m done with the dipshit…..
TDS - the dip shit

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omnigun

Re: Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming?
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2021, 03:24:49 PM »
I’ve said my piece and I’m done with the dipshit…..

hvybarrels

Re: Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming?
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2021, 03:32:20 PM »
I am convinced civil war is a possibility, especially because the people who dismiss it are the same one who are wrong about literally everything else.
If you allow government to break the law for an "emergency" they will create "emergencies" to break the law.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming?
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2021, 03:35:30 PM »
I’ve said my piece and I’m done with the dipshit…..

TDS is real.

Those afflicted intentionally try to infect others.

There's no vaccine other than common sense.

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characterizing American Beatlemania in the 1960s. Unlike the Beatles, however, the extreme
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TDS --- Find a Cure!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Rocky

Re: Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming?
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2021, 04:06:24 PM »
TDS is real.
Those afflicted intentionally try to infect others.
There's no vaccine other than common sense.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-about-men/201901/is-trump-derangement-syndrome-real-mental-condition
TDS --- Find a Cure!

Not  ANOTHER  vaccine !  :shake: :shake: :shake: :shake:
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

omnigun

Re: Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming?
« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2021, 04:15:54 PM »
TDS is real.

Those afflicted intentionally try to infect others.

There's no vaccine other than common sense.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-about-men/201901/is-trump-derangement-syndrome-real-mental-condition

TDS --- Find a Cure!

lol

I don't qualify for TDS I don't hate him.  Just dislike his policies.  And I don't worship him.  I can also realize and compare him to previous/current presidents.   

aka not a lemming.

hvybarrels

Re: Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming?
« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2021, 04:59:52 PM »
If there is a civil war we know who would win. They deep state might be able to steal elections, manipulate media, and terrorize the cities with paid thugs but their grassroots is nonexistent. In order to buy people off your money has to be worth something.

It would really suck though, and should be avoided at all cost.

If you allow government to break the law for an "emergency" they will create "emergencies" to break the law.

omnigun

Re: Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming?
« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2021, 05:24:15 PM »
If there is a civil war we know who would win. They deep state might be able to steal elections, manipulate media, and terrorize the cities with paid thugs but their grassroots is nonexistent. In order to buy people off your money has to be worth something.

It would really suck though, and should be avoided at all cost.



Deepstate conspiracies.   :crazy:

What's next illuminatii?

Kuleana

Re: Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming?
« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2021, 06:08:28 PM »
Un-occupied Hawaii wasn't that great either.
Where are you getting your information regarding the Hawaiian Kingdom era to make your emotional value judgements?



I am referring to current "Hawaiian" leadership.  They have land and they can't even get the waiting list done. Utterly useless.  There is plenty of current scandals too.   They are anti science and against a telescope even though back in the day thats what made Hawaiians great.  They turned ignorant and worship dirt.
Like I told you in my last post, the current so-called Hawaiian leaders are sell-out stooges that are paid US imperial blood money to control the aboriginal Hawaiian population.  Those people will get what's coming, once the Power Okole finds no more use and abandons them, as what happened to the Kurds as well as the those Afghans who sold out their nation, for US imperial printed toilet paper.

Kuleana

Re: Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming?
« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2021, 06:16:44 PM »
Hawaii was ruled by a monarch with pure power (dictatorship).  It is now part of America, an democratic republic. 
Totally don't know what you are talking about.   :crazy:



War happens,  Hawaiians lost, the Native Americans lost.  They had several options, fight till death or join the winning side.  A new country was formed and the old was added to it.  Over the years the cultures mesh and the former country has a chance to impart new things on the victorious country.  If you don't like it run for political office.
Stop embarrassing yourself with your lack of knowledge regarding US Constitutional and international law.

Hawaiians did not lose any war.  If you think they did, please go to Waianae, Nanakuli, and Waimanalo and tell the aboriginal Hawaiians that.  I think you will be surprised on the verbal and hopefully not physical responses you get, from your delusional beliefs.   :shaka:

hvybarrels

Re: Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming?
« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2021, 07:55:09 PM »
please go to Waianae, Nanakuli, and Waimanalo and tell the aboriginal Hawaiians that.

Might get a free boat ride out of it too


If you allow government to break the law for an "emergency" they will create "emergencies" to break the law.

ren

Re: Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming?
« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2021, 09:03:50 PM »
Totally don't know what you are talking about.   :crazy:



wait for it...

If you think they did, please go to Waianae, Nanakuli, and Waimanalo and tell the aboriginal Hawaiians that.  I think you will be surprised on the verbal and hopefully not physical responses you get, from your delusional beliefs.   :shaka:

Deeds Not Words

mrgaf

Re: Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming?
« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2021, 09:06:57 PM »


wait for it...



You guys are a riot!  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming?
« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2021, 09:27:17 PM »
Yes, you are referring to aboriginal Hawaiian sell-outs to the US empire and not highly educated Hawaiian nationals patiently waiting for the right time.

And what will happen if/when factions form in Hawaii claiming to be rightful heirs of power? Not saying there aren't smart capable Hawaiian leaders but they might not all agree who gets power. Could lead to a Hawaiian civil war. Just saying we can't ignore that issue.

I wouldn't even be against an independent Hawaiian nation once again either.

hvybarrels

Re: Kim Iversen: Is CIVIL WAR Looming?
« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2021, 11:24:58 PM »
Hawaii is currently run by criminals who occasionally get smacked around by the federal government when they get too far out of line. We are so used to Kleptocracy that I suspect that it would be just another set of criminals that takes over. Maybe they would be smarter criminals than our current batch of paste eaters, but with no Fed to smack them around I could see this place rapidly devolving into a banana republic.

Ethno-nationalism is always a disaster, btw

Open for any shining success story examples but trust me there aren’t any
If you allow government to break the law for an "emergency" they will create "emergencies" to break the law.