Thanks for your response and providing the helpful information.

Now...taser or stun gun...hmm. The later is cheaper. Glad we will have options come January 1, 2022.

Thanks for your response and providing the helpful information.

Now...taser or stun gun...hmm. The later is cheaper. Glad we will have options come January 1, 2022.

https://www.khon2.com/local-news/security-guard-hit-with-electric-gun-as-store-is-destroyed-by-brazen-burglary/

Segway of Hawaii said the security guard is doing OK, but the electric gun attack raised concerns.

“Now we’re making these things legal, I don’t get it. I question that highly and I don’t understand why we’re moving in that direction,” Rice added.

On Jan. 1, Hawaii residents will be allowed to legally carry electric guns. Buyers must pass a background check and a mandatory safety class conducted by the seller. By law, users may only use an electric gun for self-defense, defending another person or protecting their property.

Well, they are ILLEGAL now so how did these criminals get them? So now that we are leveling the field he is concerned? Is it better to keep them illegal for law-abiding citizens?

Where can you buy a $20 one that actually works?
My $20 sap cap will stop even someone on drugs. Hard to keep standing after an 8 oz lead weight hits you in the head.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VIPERTEK-Stun-Gun-VTS-989-600BV-Heavy-Duty-Rechargeable-LED-Flashlight-/274463340186?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0.  here u go 16 bux shipped.

 Ive seen this model in person. A friend in washington had one in his car. I didnt zap myself but the crackle appears to be quite powerful. Very bright arc in the dark, and loud as hell. I was going to test it on myself, til i turned it on.

Not sure about how that stupid mandatory safety class works though. Especially with online purchases. What if u want a specific model that no one locally stocks?

No one knows how the mandatory safety class for sellers will work till they apply.

With the requirements for sellers, im gonna assume most online retailers wont bother. So we will be limited to what local stores sell.

Unless u go to the mainland and buy what ever u want. In vegas, u can order online and ship to your hotel and arrive 2 business days. Then bring it back or mail it to yourself.

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It would be easy enough to provide a copy of the training certificate to mainland sellers to show that you are legal to own.

Of course, that requires rational reasoning and common sense.   

The training is for the sellers to complete so they can sell an electric gun in hawaii. No training is required for the buyers (u and I).

And the sellers must also keep a record of all buyers for 5 years, do a background check on all buyers, informal safety brief to each buyer and some other stuff i cant remember at the top of my head.

Compared to say NV. There are no seller requirements like the above. If a felon gets caught with an EG, its on them. Pretty much anyone can buy a EG in NV, brick mortor or online.

Thanks for the clarification. 

One issue that was mentioned in those comments:  all well and good for residents, but what about tourists and other visitors?  How about military who aren't stationed here but arrive for exercises, vacations and other visits?  Are they not allowed to travel with their Tasers to Hawaii?

I think if the EG is already yours (purchased out of state or mailed to you), the state can't do much about it.

If the Taser wasn't purchased in Hawaii, then none of the restrictions matter if the owner doesn't fall in one of the prohibited groups, huh?

There is nothing in the bill/law that prevents a US tourist from bringing an EG with them, unless they are a felon, under 21, and stuff like that.

I dont remember about non US citizen or resident alien posession.

There is also no registration, yet..........

So, the new restrictions only impact local stores and HI residents?

No way!  I'm shocked!

I like the Pulse+.

You get 30 seconds where you can leave the Taser on the ground while it immobilizes the attacker for 30 seconds. 

You can try to call 911 in that 30 seconds as you flee, but there may also be more than one attacker.

The Pulse+ will summon police to the scene as soon as you remove the Taser from the holster and disable the safety.  That frees you up from trying to multitask.

Cops have policies that they won't try to use a Taser or other nonlethal/less-than-lethal weapon without backup.  These tools aren't as effective at stopping threats (especially those with chemicals in their systems) as a firearm.  So, have a plan B.  I think "Shoot, drop it and use your 30 seconds to run for safety" is viable depending on the circumstances. 

If you don't announce you have a Taser, the attacker/s might think you have a firearm and flee, so that's another thing to consider.

No matter what Taser you decide on, training should be a priority.  Using one requires a unique understanding of when, how and whether to employ them.  If you try and Tase a 400 lb Samoan linebacker, you might be the one in for a shock when it only makes him angrier!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VIPERTEK-Stun-Gun-VTS-989-600BV-Heavy-Duty-Rechargeable-LED-Flashlight-/274463340186?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0.  here u go 16 bux shipped.

 Ive seen this model in person. A friend in washington had one in his car. I didnt zap myself but the crackle appears to be quite powerful. Very bright arc in the dark, and loud as hell. I was going to test it on myself, til i turned it on.

Not sure about how that stupid mandatory safety class works though. Especially with online purchases. What if u want a specific model that no one locally stocks?

§134-F  Ownership or possession prohibited.  (a)  Beginning January 1, 2022, no person who is a fugitive from justice shall own, possess, or control an electric gun.
     (b)  No person who is under indictment for, has waived indictment for, has been bound over to the circuit court for, or has been convicted in this State or elsewhere of having committed a felony, any crime of violence, or any illegal sale of any drug shall own, possess, or control an electric gun.
     (c)  No person who:
     (1)  Is or has been under treatment or counseling for addiction to, abuse of, or dependence upon any dangerous, harmful, or detrimental drug; intoxicating compound as defined in section 712-1240; or intoxicating liquor;
     (2)  Has been acquitted of a crime on the grounds of mental disease, disorder, or defect pursuant to section 704‑411;
     (3)  Is or has been diagnosed as having a significant behavioral, emotional, or mental disorder as defined by the most current diagnostic manual of the American Psychiatric Association; or
     (4)  Is under treatment for an organic brain syndrome;

shall own, possess, or control an electric gun, unless the person has been medically documented to be no longer adversely affected by the addiction, abuse, dependence, syndrome, or mental disease, disorder, or defect.
     (d)  No person who is less than twenty-five years of age and has been adjudicated by the family court to have committed a felony, two or more crimes of violence, or an illegal sale of any drug shall own, possess, or control an electric gun.

§134-C (e)  It shall be unlawful for any person, other than a licensee, a law enforcement agency, or the Army or Air National Guard, to knowingly or recklessly purchase, obtain, or otherwise receive an electric gun or cartridge from a person who does not have a license issued pursuant to section 134-C.
     (f)  Any person violating this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.