Third Test Of The Air Force's Hypersonic Weapon Has Failed Like The Ones Before (Read 4763 times)

Inspector

SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

omnigun

How are we falling behind the commies on this?  This is a disappointing news.

Kuleana

How are we falling behind the commies on this?  This is a disappointing news.
The US empire is bankrupt financially, morally, and ethically, but that is not the only reason.

China's version of communism is currently ideologically superior in theory and in-practice to the American-style fascism that is currently ideologically dominating in the US empire.

Flapp_Jackson

Anyone who has worked on a system which required various levels of testing understands one basic premise:

If the system doesn't pass the test, that test was SUCCESSFUL -- it did not fail. 

Any properly planned, prepared and executed test plan that identifies and gathers information pertaining to performance outside of the required or expected results is a success.  It means that corrections and improvements must be applied and the tests re-run.

I look at these test results as a success, as the problems have been noted, and the fixes are being engineered.

What's the use of even running a test if we expect everything to work 100%?  We could just skip all tests if the systems always passed with flying colors.  It would save a bunch of money, resources and time in the release schedule.

They should congratulate their test teams.  They are doing their jobs.

The article listed Lockheed-Martin as the prime contractor for this project.  I'll have to do some looking into the sub-contractor list.  There's a slate of "usual suspects" on every big-money gov't project.  Whoever wins the contract normally hires subs to help -- in anticipation that those companies will do the same for them on other contracts.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

In the United States MIC a weapons system is considered successful once it redistributes wealth towards military contractors and certain congressional districts.
The F in Communism stands for Food

Flapp_Jackson

In the United States MIC a weapons system is considered successful once it redistributes wealth towards military contractors and certain congressional districts.

... and the order has been placed for 11 times more than the military requested.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

mrgaf

The US empire is bankrupt financially, morally, and ethically, but that is not the only reason.

China's version of communism is currently ideologically superior in theory and in-practice to the American-style fascism that is currently ideologically dominating in the US empire.

Now that’s pure bullshit….plain and simple….
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

Kuleana

Now that’s pure bullshit….plain and simple….
The metric I am using is macro-based and is exemplified by economic and technological growth that the legitimate government uses to foster the social-economic well-being of its people and nation-state.  Since Deng Xiaopeng instituted China's reforms about 40 years ago, the Chinese version of communism has improved the wealth and stature of the Chinese people and national status without the use of war.  No other nation in history can boast such a peaceful rise to World power status, especially in such a short period of time.

If we are using a metric of civil liberties, then China has not met Western standards.  However, China and people of Asia are not Westerners and should not be held to standards historically and culturally foreign to them.

groveler

Anyone who has worked on a system which required various levels of testing understands one basic premise:

If the system doesn't pass the test, that test was SUCCESSFUL -- it did not fail. 

Any properly planned, prepared and executed test plan that identifies and gathers information pertaining to performance outside of the required or expected results is a success.  It means that corrections and improvements must be applied and the tests re-run.

I look at these test results as a success, as the problems have been noted, and the fixes are being engineered.

What's the use of even running a test if we expect everything to work 100%?  We could just skip all tests if the systems always passed with flying colors.  It would save a bunch of money, resources and time in the release schedule.

They should congratulate their test teams.  They are doing their jobs.

The article listed Lockheed-Martin as the prime contractor for this project.  I'll have to do some looking into the sub-contractor list.  There's a slate of "usual suspects" on every big-money gov't project.  Whoever wins the contract normally hires subs to help -- in anticipation that those companies will do the same for them on other contracts.
I spent twenty+ years in experimental flight test.
We just validated what was built worked as designed and we then worked to correct
the usual problems that pop up.
We never were trying to figure out if such a deign would fail or not.
That is a different sort of testing and is called development.

Sounds like USA is still developing,  although I understand the Chinese
took a NASA design that was abandoned due to cost and made it work.
We know how to do this "stuff", just too much government BS gets in the way.
Can NASA reuse their rockets?  A civilian company Space X can.

USA problems is always due to Democrat party these days.
 :grrr:






groveler

The metric I am using is macro-based and is exemplified by economic and technological growth that the legitimate government uses to foster the social-economic well-being of its people and nation-state.  Since Deng Xiaopeng instituted China's reforms about 40 years ago, the Chinese version of communism has improved the wealth and stature of the Chinese people and national status without the use of war.  No other nation in history can boast such a peaceful rise to World power status, especially in such a short period of time.

If we are using a metric of civil liberties, then China has not met Western standards.  However, China and people of Asia are not Westerners and should not be held to standards historically and culturally foreign to them.
No other nation in history can boast such a peaceful rise to World power status, especially in such a short period of time.

That is because the USA helped them.

They didn't do it on their own, because as a rule most socialist, totalitarian, and Monarchy's societies "group think"
Kill off innovation.
 :geekdanc:

Kuleana

No other nation in history can boast such a peaceful rise to World power status, especially in such a short period of time.

That is because the USA helped them.

They didn't do it on their own, because as a rule most socialist, totalitarian, and Monarchy's societies "group think"
Kill off innovation.
 :geekdanc:
Definitely a very important point that should be made.

However, such technological and knowledge transfers have always been consistent with the rise of every dominant power throughout history.  The Roman empire benefited from Greek influence; Imperial Japan was able to defeat Imperial Russia from its acquisition of Western technology, and America was able to maintain its technological edge over the Soviet Union with the aid of captured Nazi scientists after WWII.

hvybarrels

The F in Communism stands for Food

omnigun

The metric I am using is macro-based and is exemplified by economic and technological growth that the legitimate government uses to foster the social-economic well-being of its people and nation-state.  Since Deng Xiaopeng instituted China's reforms about 40 years ago, the Chinese version of communism has improved the wealth and stature of the Chinese people and national status without the use of war.  No other nation in history can boast such a peaceful rise to World power status, especially in such a short period of time.

If we are using a metric of civil liberties, then China has not met Western standards.  However, China and people of Asia are not Westerners and should not be held to standards historically and culturally foreign to them.

You are worshipping them too much.  Cheap labor and people's desperation to live.   Easy profit.  Just like how slaves in old America helped make alot of money.   Doesn't really speak to the civil liberties etc.

Kuleana

Such Hypocrisy!

Flapp_Jackson

Such Hypocrisy!

Are you referring to the vaccine mandates, and how workers in the US "desperate to live" must choose between economic stability and receiving an experimental drug that is still not fully tested?

And how "civil liberties" is just a tagline for people who bow down to government control when ordered to take that vaccine even though the adverse effects are still uncertain?

Am I close?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Are you referring to the vaccine mandates, and how workers in the US "desperate to live" must choose between economic stability and receiving an experimental drug that is still not fully tested?

And how "civil liberties" is just a tagline for people who bow down to government control when ordered to take that vaccine even though the adverse effects are still uncertain?

Am I close?

I think you mean how certain countries put pad locks on doors and trapped people.   Experts mysteriously disappeared and no safety net.   That's the civil liberties you are looking for.   

Unless you are referring to the liberties of choice but many in this country like to pick and choose on that issue. 

Flapp_Jackson

I think you mean how certain countries put pad locks on doors and trapped people.   Experts mysteriously disappeared and no safety net.   That's the civil liberties you are looking for.   

Unless you are referring to the liberties of choice but many in this country like to pick and choose on that issue.

Was I talking to you?

Don't reply to my posts unless I was talking to you.

You have nothing intelligent to say.  Just more trolling. 

 :stopjack:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Was I talking to you?

Don't reply to my posts unless I was talking to you.

You have nothing intelligent to say.  Just more trolling. 

 :stopjack:
Bruh, 1st amendment, oh wait are u the government? #stilldoesntunderstand1A.

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Flapp_Jackson

Bruh, 1st amendment, oh wait are u the government? #stilldoesntunderstand1A.

He's been warned.  I'm not in the mood for his troll games.

This topic is not about liberties in China.  It's about the US testing Hypersonic Missiles.

But, he was never in the military, so he reverts to something he (believes he) knows about:  "China evil".
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Brystont1

Bruh, 1st amendment, oh wait are u the government? #stilldoesntunderstand1A.

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