Thought I'd start a new thread as to not highjack Inspectors one.  And this one is a little different because he carries daily for years. Most of us only carry when we go on vacay once or twice a year.  So this is more of a noobs POV post.

1) Got my NV CCW and went up this past week to renew it. Its expires every 5 years.  When we first took it 5 years ago, out instructor only charged myself and not Mrs. CMO. He wants women to carry.  Also at the same trip we went to Green Valley range and was gun shopping for her.  The worker too thought it's good for women to carry and shoot, so they didn't charge us the $20 per handgun rental fee. Instead we just paid ammo and $20 range fee.

So this years renewal, he didn't even charge us at all.  So what I did was bring goodies from HI and gave him $100 tip. I was even at this time with gambling, so no biggie.

We then went to the Metro police station to hand in our paper work and had to wait 2.5 hours. We got there at 8:45am.  When we went 5 years ago, we were done in 12 minutes and the crowd was double 5 years ago than what it was this time. So seems like they're screwing the CCW applicants/renewals.  We were talking to others waiting and that is what they mentioned.  We had to leave our guns in the car, which is legal to do in NV, no "places to keep" or "to and from" laws.

2) Both I and Mrs.CMO carry appendix IWB. Because when we gamble, we are leaning forward. So if we carried at the 4 or 8 o'clock, the pistol would print. 

3) I carried my VP9 and Mrs. CMO her P10C. Both are not small guns, but since it's only for a week, it didn't matter much. But if I did carry daily, I would want something smaller.

4) Some hotels do X-ray your bags if you check them with the bell hop. Palazzo, where we stayed did. They saw my ammo inside the suit case and called me to security when I requested the bags be delivered to our rooms after we checked in. I had 10 rds of a box of 50 in there.  They then asked if I was armed and I said yes. So I had to check my gun. It is legal to carry in a casino, but against house rules. So they will tell you to check your gun.  No big deal.  And if you refuse to do so, then they will ask you to leave. And if you refuse, then trespass you and the cops are involved at this point.  So basically, don't get caught.

When I checked my gun, you just leave it in a cubby hole in the armory. Had a few other guns and ammo and mags in other holes.  Then when we left the casino a few hours later, I claimed my gun and went about our day. I never checked it in again after this 1st day there.  They don't know if you're CCWing or not.  And the place is so huge, they're not scanning faces.  Especially when everyone is wearing a mask.

They also didn't ask if Mrs. CMO was armed, so we still had a gun in the room. Sexist if  you ask me.  And when they called regarding my suit case with the ammo, Mrs. CMO picked up the phone. They asked to speak to me and not her.  Room is under her name. "Can we speak to your husband".

The rest of the trip, we went in and out of the casino/room and no one stopped us. Plus its about 50 degrees so having a jacket helps hide any printing.  This was for the many casino's we played at.

5) The Raiders Stadium has metal detectors, so we had to leave our guns in the car again. We leave it in the glove box and lock it.  Leaving the guns in the car for the first time did make me nervous, becuase it's a PITA to buy another one if the car gets broken into. So we rushed our visit there so we can get back to the car.

6) Omega Mart also wands. So again, left the guns in the car. By this time, I wasn't as nervous as the Raider stadium about leaving the guns in the car.

7) Went to a few gun stores, none of the employees wearing mask, even though mandate requires them to. 1 store even told us we can remove our mask.  "We're about freedom to choose" is what we were told.

Went to the Strat and super ghetto. But we were armed so didn't worry as much. But still we kept our head on a swivel. I would not recommend anyone stay or gamble there.

9) Sitting while AIWB does suck, but you get used to it.  And the pressure points need to change every few hours,so you move your gun over like half an inch and it helps.  Also we both noticed our lower backs getting sore. Which is weird because the pistols are on our appendix and never happened before the previous times we carried. My WML on the VP9 touches the boto.

We did lose money, but I look at it as the price we paid to have freedom. Walking around with a few G's in the pocket didn't bother me because I am armed.  Compared to here and being unarmed.

All good points on the processes, rules and workarounds of CCW.

I'd add that leaving a gun in a car where CCW is allowed is just asking for it to be stolen.  People break into cars in some areas because they know many are carrying and the place they are targeting doesn't allow carrying inside the building/stadium.

So I take my Pelican pistol case and a heavy bike cable when I travel.  The case is obviously for the flight, but when I'm driving, it's in my trunk.  If I have to lose the pistol to go into someplace, I stow it in the case and lock that to the bike cable.  Plenty of speaker and other holes in the sidewall and deck panel to run the cable through and lock it in the trunk.  That case isn't going anywhere without a key or some serious tools -- tools that require time and activity that might attract attention.

Also, in some states, you need to be very attentive when storing a gun in a console or glove box.  Some states don't allow it, while other states require it.      I've had to take a pistol from my drink holder and put it inside the center console as I drove between two states.  One state reasoned that you can't conceal a gun in a car without a "Conceal Carry" permit, while the other state reasoned they'd rather have the gun out of sight of potential thieves and away from your hands if you get pulled over.  So, just be aware of your local laws when driving with your firearm in the car but not holstered.

If casino security approaches you to ask if you are carrying, be VERY aware of where your hands are.  Keep them in plain sight and away from your body at all times.  Just reaching for an ID needs to be telegraphed and deliberate so they aren't made more nervous than they already are.

Lastly, Vegas loves to liquor up their guests with free or cheap drinks.  Don't let that distract you into forgetting you're carrying.  If you're planning on drinking, then you should not be planning on carrying.  In many places, that in and of itself, is illegal.

 

All good points on the processes, rules and workarounds of CCW.

I'd add that leaving a gun in a car where CCW is allowed is just asking for it to be stolen.  People break into cars in some areas because they know many are carrying and the place they are targeting doesn't allow carrying inside the building/stadium.

So I take my Pelican pistol case and a heavy bike cable when I travel.  The case is obviously for the flight, but when I'm driving, it's in my trunk.  If I have to lose the pistol to go into someplace, I stow it in the case and lock that to the bike cable.  Plenty of speaker and other holes in the sidewall and deck panel to run the cable through and lock it in the trunk.  That case isn't going anywhere without a key or some serious tools -- tools that require time and activity that might attract attention.

Also, in some states, you need to be very attentive when storing a gun in a console or glove box.  Some states don't allow it, while other states require it.      I've had to take a pistol from my drink holder and put it inside the center console as I drove between two states.  One state reasoned that you can't conceal a gun in a car without a "Conceal Carry" permit, while the other state reasoned they'd rather have the gun out of sight of potential thieves and away from your hands if you get pulled over.  So, just be aware of your local laws when driving with your firearm in the car but not holstered.

If casino security approaches you to ask if you are carrying, be VERY aware of where your hands are.  Keep them in plain sight and away from your body at all times.  Just reaching for an ID needs to be telegraphed and deliberate so they aren't made more nervous than they already are.

Lastly, Vegas loves to liquor up their guests with free or cheap drinks.  Don't let that distract you into forgetting you're carrying.  If you're planning on drinking, then you should not be planning on carrying.  In many places, that in and of itself, is illegal.

 

That's a good idea about the gun case.

The LV Metro station where you apply for CCW is also the parole check in.  So in the same room CCW holders are waiting, so are felons on parole. Had 1 girl checking in and she got arrested on the spot because she had another warrant. And there are no metro cops in this waiting room either, they're all in the back.

So with that being said, a bad guy  would be hitting cars. Just gotta see who is exiting the car. The felons all have a similar look and so do the CCW applicants.  There were no cops in sight inside or outside.

For the booze, NV does have a law like DUI limits. 0.08 and under is OK. But we both don't drink because if asked if we had a drink after a self defense incident, we want to say zero. That way they don't pull a Deedy and try to claim we were drunk.

There is a YTer who posted a vid that 1 security guard recognized him and he was approached.  IMO that's a narc move. There is no way to prove if u recognize a YTer or not. So to be proactive and assume 1 is carrying is a narc move. Future alpha boy applicant.

Forgot to add, when taking a dump, I do not like to leave my pistol on the TP holder or any kind of shelf. I may forget it. Instead I leave it between my legs on my underwear.  If I leave it on my belt, due to it's weight, the pistol will fall over and touch the dirty restroom floor.

i usually carry my P365X and can get away with just a shirt. I stay at the Mandalay and they dont seem to x-ray your bags. I do have to be careful around some hotels as they have security with dogs walking around.

Forgot to add, when taking a dump, I do not like to leave my pistol on the TP holder or any kind of shelf. I may forget it. Instead I leave it between my legs on my underwear.  If I leave it on my belt, due to it's weight, the pistol will fall over and touch the dirty restroom floor.

I almost never sit when visiting a public restroom.  I usually do my business standing.   But, that's not a realistic solution 100% of the time.  A man's gotta doo what a man's gotta doo.   

I see an opportunity here.  Make lockboxes for restroom stalls that open with a random 4 digit code.  I was adding requirements for how this would work, but it started to turn into a draft proposal ... and I don't want anyone stealing my idea!   

Great post! Lots of good info here.

We go to LV once or twice a year so I am expecting to run into some of the issues you did.

Thanks! 

i usually carry my P365X and can get away with just a shirt. I stay at the Mandalay and they dont seem to x-ray your bags. I do have to be careful around some hotels as they have security with dogs walking around.

I passed dogs at Palazzo, MGM, Planet Hollywood, GVR and none alerted to ammo or guns. I think they're drugs/explosive dogs.

How secure are the safes in some hotel rooms? I assume if you are gambling in a casino that is part of the hotel where you're staying, then it might be more convenient to keep the gun(s) in the safe than attempt to check it at the entrance to the casino.
Some states like Arizona have Indian reservations, and since you have to travel there by car, how do you safely store the weapon?

How secure are the safes in some hotel rooms? I assume if you are gambling in a casino that is part of the hotel where you're staying, then it might be more convenient to keep the gun(s) in the safe than attempt to check it at the entrance to the casino.
Some states like Arizona have Indian reservations, and since you have to travel there by car, how do you safely store the weapon?

The room safes are really only good for keeping the maid and maintenance from easily walking out with your valuables.  I would never expect one to keep anything safe for any length of time.  I might be okay with putting my laptop and plane tickets in there, but not a gun or thousands of dollars in chips or cash.

Hotels offer safe deposit boxes for valuables.  Some now offer check-in for firearms as already stated.  I've used the deposit boxes for my checkbook, cash, passport, and plane ticket before when leaving for the day.  I take anything I don't want to lose with me and keep it in the car.

If you must leave a gun in the room, put it in your locked travel case and find a place to hide it or lock it to something secure, like a solid pipe in the bathroom.  Another good use for that bike cable.

Reservations are not US land.  Any CCW permits you have may not be not honored there unless it's issued in the same state the reservation is in -- and then only if Tribal rules allow it

                                                                                                If you are carrying a firearm with a permit/license
that is valid in the state the reservation is located in, that permit/license may not be valid on the Reservation. They
will most likely take the firearm and tell you that you can go to Tribal Court to get it back. Some say as long as
you stay on the state roads through a Reservation you are OK but some Tribes ordinances state you can’t carry a
firearm in a vehicle or on the roads on their Reservation. Tribal Police in most instances work closely with the
Local Law Enforcement surrounding the Reservation. If you are breaking a state firearms law they will most likely
hold you and contact the local authorities.

Handgunlaw.us recommends before carrying on any Reservation that you actually talk to those in charge and
preferably get something in writing that your permit/license is valid on their reservation. Otherwise keep it
unloaded and secured in your trunk or locked box in the back of a vehicle that does not have a trunk.

https://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/tribal_law_ccw.pdf

When in doubt, don't "carry" on tribal land.  Transport it as you would in Hawaii, but in a more secure, locked case.

How secure are the safes in some hotel rooms? I assume if you are gambling in a casino that is part of the hotel where you're staying, then it might be more convenient to keep the gun(s) in the safe than attempt to check it at the entrance to the casino.
Some states like Arizona have Indian reservations, and since you have to travel there by car, how do you safely store the weapon?

They dont allow them in the room either. So wouldnt matter.

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They dont allow them in the room either. So wouldnt matter.

I stayed in Vegas when I attended Front Sight.  Had I experienced the 1 hour drive each way and the level of fatigue after days standing in the sun, I'd have stayed in Pahrump.  I'll know next time.

I kept my firearm in my room at night, and with me when at Front Sight.  When I gambled, it was locked in its case bike-locked to a bathroom fixture and hidden under the towels.

What they didn't know didn't matter.  As long as it was cased, I was okay with it.  If they found out and asked me to check it in, I'd have gone that route -- similar to your wife keeping her gun with her or carrying in the casino in spite of signs.

It's a game of "which is safer?"  Being armed and maybe getting caught breaking a rule, or leaving your firearm unattended (locked or not) where someone else could find it?

Thanks for sharing your experiences CCW'ing in Nevada.  I hope other Hawaii residents that carry in Nevada will chime in on this thread.

Is it Nevada state law that allows firearms in casinos and not allowed in the hotel?  Or is it on an individual property basis?

I was also wondering how much trouble one would get into if he just employed the "Don't ask, don't tell" option?  In other words, if asked, fully comply with their wishes but if they don't ask then just go about your business.

Thanks again for sharing.  Interesting stuff.

Thanks for sharing your experiences CCW'ing in Nevada.  I hope other Hawaii residents that carry in Nevada will chime in on this thread.

Is it Nevada state law that allows firearms in casinos and not allowed in the hotel?  Or is it on an individual property basis?

I was also wondering how much trouble one would get into if he just employed the "Don't ask, don't tell" option?  In other words, if asked, fully comply with their wishes but if they don't ask then just go about your business.

Thanks again for sharing.  Interesting stuff.

Its casino rules, not law. The times i had to check my gun, they are super cool about it. Even this time when checking my mag, the guy laughed i had a 10rd mag.

So it is dont ask, dont tell. Like i mentioned the rest of the trip we carried in casinos and no one knew. And of course im not dressed "tactical" so that helped with not being profiled.



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When i say casino, i mean  the hotel, cambling floor, restrooms, restaurants, etc... Basically the property.

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When I buy my own casino one day  , I'll have a policy that CCW permit holders receive a 10% discount for rooms, room service, in the restaurants, etc.

All they have to do is present a valid permit that's honored in the state for CCW, and only applies to the permit holder.  No piggybacking for spouses, minors, or other guests.  That's to encourage all adults to have their own permits.

I'd prefer my casino to be packed full of gun owners who obey the law, passed a background check and can legally own firearms.

That alone would prevent the majority of bad guys (who don't care about permits) from starting any trouble.

I'm thinking of CCW nowadays.  I know no can here in communist Hawaii but thinking of when I go to Vegas.

I think it's because I'm getting older and also because of the past couple of trips to Vegas.  Lots of shady "predators" in the casinos, especially when visiting the lower and middle tier type of local casinos.

But more when we are out and about in Vegas away from the touristy areas and more on the outskirts when checking out malls and local eateries.

Seems like getting a CCW license is a PITA.  Would be nice if there was a reciprocity clause for states that permit concealed carry.  So much laws to be aware of, even when traveling between states that permit CCW.

I'm thinking of CCW nowadays.  I know no can here in communist Hawaii but thinking of when I go to Vegas.

I think it's because I'm getting older and also because of the past couple of trips to Vegas.  Lots of shady "predators" in the casinos, especially when visiting the lower and middle tier type of local casinos.

But more when we are out and about in Vegas away from the touristy areas and more on the outskirts when checking out malls and local eateries.

Seems like getting a CCW license is a PITA.  Would be nice if there was a reciprocity clause for states that permit concealed carry.  So much laws to be aware of, even when traveling between states that permit CCW.

They do have reciprocity with other states. IDK off the top of my head for sure, but IIRC AZ is one.  AZ can be done via the mail.  Google works well for this. Search CCW reciprocity.

What is odd about the NV CCW is you are not even allowed to carry concealed at home without a CCW permit. But they have constitutional open carry.  And they have a concealed blade length of 3 inches or less law.  So I have a special smaller folding knife I use only for Vegas. By chance its' a HK folding knife.

If you want to take the actual course LMK, I can refer you to the guy who we took it from.  It's 8 hrs. Then you drop off all the paperwork at the Metro station the next day.  Also the instructor must be approved by Metro, which my guy is, so you cannot just take it from a random trainer.

UT and AZ permits are much easier because they do not require in state training like NV does.  You can get those permits in HI and use it in NV.  IIRC Rocky is taking registrations for an upcoming class.

UT and AZ permits are much easier because they do not require in state training like NV does.  You can get those permits in HI and use it in NV.  IIRC Rocky is taking registrations for an upcoming class.

1 benefit of having a NV one is that  you can come within 1000 feet of a school (federal gun free school zone law). You need that states CCW to have the exception. And because we don't know the area well, we never know when we will be passing close to a school.