Inter island travel procedures with firearm (Read 8272 times)

Hokukane

Inter island travel procedures with firearm
« on: October 06, 2012, 10:11:14 AM »
Howsit new here. Does anyone know what the procedures are for inter island travel with fire arm and ammunition? Mahalos

Hokukane

Re: Inter island travel procedures with firearm
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2012, 10:22:22 AM »
Looking into a good travel case for rifle also to go hunting in kauai thanx :shaka:

Funtimes

Re: Inter island travel procedures with firearm
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2012, 10:22:46 AM »
 Check your airline regulations, and TSA regulations (print them out, take them with you).  Locked hard sided container will be required for airline flight and travel.
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Re: Inter island travel procedures with firearm
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2012, 10:26:21 AM »
Welcome to the site.
I'm not particularly sure cause I've never done it, but first and foremost you need to print out the rules and regulations for the airlines you are flying through, especially the sections regarding firearms and ammo.
It has to be declared when you check in.
In a locked case.
Clear and safe
Ammo separate from gun

It goes something like that, I'm sure others will chime in when they see this cause I could be missing some details.

Haoleb

Re: Inter island travel procedures with firearm
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2012, 02:23:18 PM »
Mainly what you need to be concerned with is following both TSA/Federal regulations and the rules for your particular airline. Having recently traveled with firearms from Maine to Hawaii, through JFK airport of all places. Most airline employees are not familiar with proper procedure's so allow extra time, and know what the procedures are because you will probably have to help them with it. Do NOT allow them to mark your baggage in any way that it contains a firearm according to federal law. They will have you declare the firearm and will usually ask to see that it is unloaded. Then sign a small orange tag to put INSIDE your luggage, its supposed to go inside the locked case with the gun. Also do not use TSA locks, you must be in posession of the key to the locks and nobody should be able to access the firearm but you.

Most airlines also allow you to bring ammunition, but it varies.

It is easy to travel with firearms just know the rules and be smart. Dont walk up to the counter and say "Ive got a gun"

drck1000

Inter island travel procedures with firearm
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2012, 04:46:52 PM »
Definitely become familiar with the rules for TSA and the airline. Print out the rules an mentioned as sometimes the agents aren't familiar with the rules.

Note that the locks on the case need to prevent access to the contents (think prying from the end).  They keys will remain in your possession.  On my last trip, the agent asked me about TSA accessible locks. It's not necessary, but recommend that you stay in the check in area for about 10-15 mins after you check in to make sure the gun case passes TSA inspection. They swab the gun case and if it triggers an alarm, they may need you in the area for inspection.

Each airline has their own policy for ammo. I flew United last and they allowed up to 11 lbs of ammo inside the same locked container as the firearm as long as it was in the manufacturer's original packaging or another appropriate box.

For United, they have you sign a tag that says that the firearms are unloaded and you are responsible for what happens if it is not unloaded. They didn't even ask to inspect the guns. I only had to open the main plastic Pelican case to put the tag inside the case.

Be a little vigilant when picking up the case. When going to Alaska, they had me claim the case from a luggage agent. Coming back home, the gun case came out on the belt. That was a little unnerving as I assumed that they would make you claim the case from an agent in person.

It's really not that big a deal. Just allow a little extra time and know the rules.

Hokukane

Re: Inter island travel procedures with firearm
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2012, 03:34:53 PM »
Mahalo gang, will definitely be checking and double checking procedures for interisland travel. Will be going to kauai in February some time on Hawaiian airlines to hunt on some private land. I will update you guys on to how things went.

Kingkeoni

Re: Inter island travel procedures with firearm
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2012, 05:05:23 PM »
Mahalo gang, will definitely be checking and double checking procedures for interisland travel. Will be going to kauai in February some time on Hawaiian airlines to hunt on some private land. I will update you guys on to how things went.

Never mind the update.

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hnl.flyboy

Re: Inter island travel procedures with firearm
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2012, 09:39:22 PM »
Welcome to the site.
I'm not particularly sure cause I've never done it, but first and foremost you need to print out the rules and regulations for the airlines you are flying through, especially the sections regarding firearms and ammo.
It has to be declared when you check in.
In a locked case.
Clear and safe
Ammo separate from gun

It goes something like that, I'm sure others will chime in when they see this cause I could be missing some details.

Gun needs to be unloaded, but per federal regulations, it can be in the same case as the gun.  Airline MIGHT say differently.  Technically, you can have the ammo in mags, as long as it's completely covered (like the Magpul PMAGs with the clip-on dust cover, or mags in a pouch so the ammo isn't showing), though I heard some airlines want it in the factory boxes.
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Re: Inter island travel procedures with firearm
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2012, 11:30:42 PM »
I put the gun in a Locking CD case, with the two magazines (loaded) and stuffed in a sock.  Which I then tie in a knot and put in the CD case with the firearm. Double check for unloaded, and then check my bag.
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hnl.flyboy

Re: Inter island travel procedures with firearm
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2012, 11:43:24 PM »
If you ever fly inter island with hnl.flyboy, I don't care to see if it's unloaded...I just wanna drool over what you got and talk story about it!!  ;D
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Re: Inter island travel procedures with firearm
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2012, 10:17:09 PM »
If you ever fly inter island with hnl.flyboy, I don't care to see if it's unloaded...I just wanna drool over what you got and talk story about it!!  ;D

My buddy and I were going to vegas, and we had like four pistols two rifles in a case... the lady was speechless.  While we were tagging and double checking empty, a *big* group of tourists (like 20+ Japanese)  started pointing and gawking.  The lady was like, see, even they think there is something wrong.  I then turned to them, gave this big huge double thumbs up - and they all erupted cheering our guns lol.

It was priceless, because the lady didn't say anything after that.  :geekdanc:
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Tom_G

Re: Inter island travel procedures with firearm
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2012, 06:59:33 AM »
My buddy and I were going to vegas, and we had like four pistols two rifles in a case... the lady was speechless.  While we were tagging and double checking empty, a *big* group of tourists (like 20+ Japanese)  started pointing and gawking.  The lady was like, see, even they think there is something wrong.  I then turned to them, gave this big huge double thumbs up - and they all erupted cheering our guns lol.

It was priceless, because the lady didn't say anything after that.  :geekdanc:

Sweet! 

I went neighbor island with two other LIFE training counselors to put on an instructor's course some months ago.  Each of us had a "suitcase full of guns."  On the way over, we arrived at separate times, and each one of us had a very different story to tell about how we were processed.  None of them bad, but different enough to indicate the personnel at Hawaiian Air weren't familiar with their own rules and policies.  On the return trip, we were together.  We got a TSA agent who was knowledgeable, friendly, and professional.  And cute!  It was a breeze.
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Funtimes

Re: Inter island travel procedures with firearm
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2012, 09:35:33 AM »
Sweet!   On the return trip, we were together.  We got a TSA agent who was knowledgeable, friendly, and professional.  And cute!  It was a breeze.

Did you opt for the pat down  :-*
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2asupport

Re: Inter island travel procedures with firearm
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2012, 10:41:07 PM »
I've taken some handguns on Hawaiian to Oahu from Maui in soft sided luggage, glock box locked with a master lock around the handle and chained to the interior structure of the collapsible handle of the luggage, I put non TSA approved locks on the exterior of the luggage.  Hawaiian and TSA were really cool about it, got some curious looks from other passengers and the porters when TSA was inspecting the gun.