Ukraine vs. Russia (Read 298990 times)

QUIETShooter

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #440 on: March 07, 2022, 06:33:32 AM »
If there is a nuclear attack, I want where ever I am to be ground zero. I rather get vaporized than deal with the aftermath.  That is one advantage of being old, you already enjoyed the best years of your life and everything from here on out is downhill and not in a good sense. That is what makes old people with the right mindset dangerous. The older you get, the less of a deterrent life in prison holds.

For me, I like to call it the "Ainokea Old Man Syndrome".  AOMS.

But I am grateful that the best years of my life I was able to experience and enjoy.  I feel for the young ones nowadays.  Well, some of them, lol!
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

mrgaf

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #441 on: March 07, 2022, 08:01:46 AM »
For me, I like to call it the "Ainokea Old Man Syndrome".  AOMS.

But I am grateful that the best years of my life I was able to experience and enjoy.  I feel for the young ones nowadays.  Well, some of them, lol!

Yup same here….only thing I want to do is when I see the nuke coming down is to give ‘em dah finger and say f—k off! :geekdanc:
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macsak

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #442 on: March 07, 2022, 08:12:25 AM »
get planny ICBM silos on oahu...

What makes you  think "it" can "all [get] incinerated," but somehow you'll survive?

Did you buy a surplus missile silo for a SHTF bunker?  Your secret will be safe with us...   :shaka: :thumbsup: :geekdanc:

drck1000

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #443 on: March 07, 2022, 08:17:06 AM »
For me, I like to call it the "Ainokea Old Man Syndrome".  AOMS.

But I am grateful that the best years of my life I was able to experience and enjoy.  I feel for the young ones nowadays.  Well, some of them, lol!
That's not an AOMS thing, or at least add me to that list.  If things "go nuclear", I personally don't want to be part of the mess that follows.

aletheuo137

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #444 on: March 07, 2022, 08:24:40 AM »
If there is a nuclear attack, I want where ever I am to be ground zero. I rather get vaporized than deal with the aftermath.  That is one advantage of being old, you already enjoyed the best years of your life and everything from here on out is downhill and not in a good sense. That is what makes old people with the right mindset dangerous. The older you get, the less of a deterrent life in prison holds.
Only variable to that point is my kids and grandkids!

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DocMercy

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #445 on: March 07, 2022, 08:28:10 AM »
I have no idea what this astrologer is saying, but she is interesting to watch. Her charts go out to 2024, which means we will be suffering from headaches and bad dreams for another two years.

groveler

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #446 on: March 07, 2022, 08:42:10 AM »
If there is a nuclear attack, I want where ever I am to be ground zero. I rather get vaporized than deal with the aftermath.  That is one advantage of being old, you already enjoyed the best years of your life and everything from here on out is downhill and not in a good sense. That is what makes old people with the right mindset dangerous. The older you get, the less of a deterrent life in prison holds.
This a little off subject, but
"never pick a fight with an old man he'll just shoot you and leave you in a ditch".
Kind of my thoughts.  :thumbsup:
You and I are about the same age and live in rural BI.
I don't think we'll be close to "ground zero".
I think life without Honolulu rule will be an improvement. 
At least then we'll be able to conceal and open carry.  It will be a necessity,
since we will be thrust back to the 1700's kind of living.
 :shaka:

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #447 on: March 07, 2022, 08:42:16 AM »
Evidence of a US imperial funded bioweapons program in Ukraine, so shocking.   :wtf:


Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #448 on: March 07, 2022, 10:02:00 AM »
We now see in another 2018 report below how the US empire's dealings with Ukraine's racist Nazis have been going on for some time now.  The US Senate has openly invited and is supporting Ukraine's Nazi anti-Russian campaign in Eastern Ukraine, and Americans are still questioning the legitimacy of Russia's geopolitical goals in their invasion of Ukraine?


changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #449 on: March 07, 2022, 10:14:17 AM »
We now see in another 2018 report below how the US empire's dealings with Ukraine's racist Nazis have been going on for some time now.  The US Senate has openly invited and is supporting Ukraine's Nazi anti-Russian campaign in Eastern Ukraine, and Americans are still questioning the legitimacy of Russia's geopolitical goals in their invasion of Ukraine?




IMO Russia saying they invaded due to Nazi's is a BS cover.  They're trying to get sympathy from people.  Pretty much pulling a play from the fake news.

aletheuo137

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #450 on: March 07, 2022, 10:16:09 AM »
IMO Russia saying they invaded due to Nazi's is a BS cover.  They're trying to get sympathy from people.  Pretty much pulling a play from the fake news.
Narrative worked in America, why not in Ukraine!

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hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #451 on: March 07, 2022, 12:14:50 PM »
I think life without Honolulu rule will be an improvement. 

Isn't Maui the only major island without a military installation? I'm wondering what else they may have stashed at Pohakuloa that may make them a target.
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changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #452 on: March 07, 2022, 12:15:28 PM »
See for the first time, destroyed Ukrainian Armor (tanks).

robtmc

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #453 on: March 07, 2022, 12:24:02 PM »
Isn't Maui the only major island without a military installation? I'm wondering what else they may have stashed at Pohakuloa that may make them a target.
Maui has military satellite tracking installations on Haleakala.  Includes a very advanced optical ability to image satellites and ID them as to purpose.

Might not nuke it, but a prime target for a Spetsnaz strike.

PTA on the BI is empty lava fields.   Other than dispersed aircraft basing airfields like Hilo and Kona, not much of anything.
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aieahound

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #454 on: March 07, 2022, 01:38:18 PM »


Groveler.  :shaka:

QUIETShooter

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #455 on: March 07, 2022, 01:57:38 PM »
Even though the US is willing to back fill their fighter jets with American F-16's, Poland, Romania, and Slovakia are reluctant to give their aircraft to Ukraine to help them fight the Russians.

They fear their actions will spur Russia to see them as NATO combatants and will draw them into the war.

I hope while all this stupid back and forth is going on, that the US and NATO continue to supply Ukraine with anti-aircraft weapons, munitions, and humanitarian aid that can be shipped through the western borders.  But as time goes by, the borders are bound to get smaller and smaller as the war escalates and it will be difficult if not impossible to get aid to Ukraine soon.

But of course, I'm sure our competent and knowledgeable biden/harris administration knows this. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #456 on: March 07, 2022, 02:38:49 PM »
But of course, I'm sure our competent and knowledgeable biden/harris administration knows this. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

That’s what’s got me really concerned. Every action they take turns into a disaster.
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changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #457 on: March 07, 2022, 02:45:44 PM »
KOLOMOYSKY




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Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #458 on: March 07, 2022, 02:56:12 PM »
Isn't Maui the only major island without a military installation? I'm wondering what else they may have stashed at Pohakuloa that may make them a target.
If Russia or China does not want to waste a nuke on any of the islands, but still want to eliminate all the most important military installations in Hawaii, the environmentally friendly way is to conventionally bomb those volcanic areas on the Big Island and the resulting mega tsunami caused by the displacement of those volcano chunks that slip into the sea will do the rest.   :shaka:

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #459 on: March 07, 2022, 03:36:20 PM »
If Russia or China does not want to waste a nuke on any of the islands, but still want to eliminate all the most important military installations in Hawaii, the environmentally friendly way is to conventionally bomb those volcanic areas on the Big Island and the resulting mega tsunami caused by the displacement of those volcano chunks that slip into the sea will do the rest.   :shaka:

Simply taking out Oahu would cripple any response capability from Hawaii.  Any response would be mainland based or already deployed and able to retaliate.

Oahu has the largest population, the most military resources, the most shipping everyone in Hawaii depends on, and the most airport resources.

True, there are airports on other islands, but they are ill equipped and manned to handle the overflow demand cused by the potential loss of the HNL/Hickam airports.

Not only that, but the majority of state government resides there.  I don't know what kind of contingent government this state could muster should the leadership be captured or killed.

If it came down to it, a hostile nation with the right strategies and tactics could prevent shipping to the islands and even shoot down a few planes to cut off supplies.  It would not take too long before the people are being starved out.  We still need oil & gas to make electricity and operate most cars, buses, trucks, and heavy machinery.  We also still need to obtain medicines and other critical products just to sustain life.

Once the supplies on hand run out, if we can't rely on commercial or government transports to supply us, we're basically in the position of self-sustainment or take to the seas in small craft (Cuban boat people ring a bell?).  Waiting to surrender and be taken care of by the enemy doesn't appeal to me.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw