Ukraine vs. Russia (Read 298964 times)

hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #380 on: March 03, 2022, 07:19:48 AM »

Lots of Fake shit.  Or things out of context.  Some of the videos being shared were events that happened before the invasion during the Crimea annexation and even unrelated events that happened in other parts of the world, according to USA Today.


Fog of war. There’s no way to know what actually happened until the shooting stops. Until then trying to guess is a waste of time.
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Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #381 on: March 03, 2022, 07:26:43 AM »
USA Today posted a whole list of fact checks about videos and information being shared on social media.

Lots of Fake shit.  Or things out of context.  Some of the videos being shared were events that happened before the invasion during the Crimea annexation and even unrelated events that happened in other parts of the world, according to USA Today.

I did have some reservations about the validity of some videos.  There was one being shared of demolished Russian armored vehicles destroyed by the Ukrainian military.  The vehicles look all rusted, like they were sitting out for years.  Unless rust sets in immediately in that part of the world.

I mean they definitely were destroyed by Ukraine.  But doesn't look like recently.  More like earlier during the fighting after the Crimea annexation.
Excellent examination of the facts.

Now then, if such photos were taken prior to 2022, what conflict was happening in Ukraine before then?  Could it be the destroyed military vehicles that were/are part of the genocidal war the US empire-backed government in Kiev was waging against the Russian speaking population in Eastern Ukraine that has been going on for the last 8 years that Russia said was one the reasons why it decided to take matters in their own hands about a week ago?

What is interesting though, is an US imperial propaganda mouthpiece has actually presented some photos that any critical thinking American will find some flaw in the "official" US imperial narrative that has been broadcasted nonstop over the last week.  I wonder, if this is the starting point where the US empire will cut Ukraine loose to the Russians now that the Russian economy has been severely damaged by the latest wave of international sanctions and, more importantly, the halting of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline that would have allowed Europe cheap energy from Russia; thereby, weakening the US empire's control of its vassal states in Western Europe.

aletheuo137

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #382 on: March 03, 2022, 08:19:45 AM »
The Story of Sandworm, the Kremlin's Most Dangerous Hackers

https://www.wired.com/story/sandworm-kremlin-most-dangerous-hackers/

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aletheuo137

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #383 on: March 03, 2022, 08:23:02 AM »
Who is FANCY BEAR (APT28)?

https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/who-is-fancy-bear/

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changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #384 on: March 03, 2022, 09:11:34 AM »
USA Today posted a whole list of fact checks about videos and information being shared on social media.

Lots of Fake shit.  Or things out of context.  Some of the videos being shared were events that happened before the invasion during the Crimea annexation and even unrelated events that happened in other parts of the world, according to USA Today.

I did have some reservations about the validity of some videos.  There was one being shared of demolished Russian armored vehicles destroyed by the Ukrainian military.  The vehicles look all rusted, like they were sitting out for years.  Unless rust sets in immediately in that part of the world.

I mean they definitely were destroyed by Ukraine.  But doesn't look like recently.  More like earlier during the fighting after the Crimea annexation.

This is why for any invasion, it's important to control the flow of information.  Or any narrative in general, which we have seen since 2016.  I mean you still have people who think election fraud didn't happen even though documentation of it has been show. They think Trump is in with Putin and other TDS related issues, etc...

I refer to the invasion of Poland in WW2 because I learned about it in school.  Hitler controlled the air waves and stated that Poland attacked Germany. Which we know now is untrue.

So like hvybrls said, we could go crazy trying to figure out what's real and not.  So I take it as sort of entertainment if you want to call a war that. But IDK how else to put it.  The pics of the Ukraine pres in a kit are from older photo times. I admit I got duped. Who knows if the ghost of Kyiv is real.  But what I say has more truth to it are the videos. But even with that, I dont' speak Russian so how do I know the translation is accurate.  And many have hundreds if not thousands of comments. I'm not going to spend time reading them in hopes someone who speaks Russian states other wise.

But Ukraine is winning the info war. I don't see much if any at all vids/pics of the Russian military.  The only one that I did see was a vid of guys complaining their MRE's expired in 2015. But I don't speak Russian so maybe they're complaining there's no Jalapeno Cheese Spread.

DocMercy

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #385 on: March 03, 2022, 09:40:46 AM »
This video was released on the usual media outlets and Radio Free Europe.



Without peace talks, Russia is going to become a permanent pariah on two continents. I would volunteer Trump or Dennis Rodman to act as intermediaries, as nothing else would break the ice. Yes, world peace does make strange bedfellows.

We are reaching the point when strange suggestion are coming out of the woodwork from all over the world. Following a one million dollar bounty offered yesterday by a Russian for Putin's arrest, we have this suggestion by Sean Hannity.

https://dailycaller.com/2022/03/02/sean-hannity-assassinate-putin/
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changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #386 on: March 03, 2022, 11:51:04 AM »
This video was released on the usual media outlets and Radio Free Europe.



Without peace talks, Russia is going to become a permanent pariah on two continents. I would volunteer Trump or Dennis Rodman to act as intermediaries, as nothing else would break the ice. Yes, world peace does make strange bedfellows.

We are reaching the point when strange suggestion are coming out of the woodwork from all over the world. Following a one million dollar bounty offered yesterday by a Russian for Putin's arrest, we have this suggestion by Sean Hannity.

https://dailycaller.com/2022/03/02/sean-hannity-assassinate-putin/

I watched Rodmans interview when he was assisting Trump about KJU. He was in tears and you can see the true emotion because he spoke to all the previous admins about messages from N Korea and got silence. Then here comes someone who's not a career politician and besides stopping of nuke testing, he even walked into N Korea. While all other presidents if they did visit the DMZ, were in a safety area.  No harm came to Trump while he stepped into N Korea. Guess cause his button is bigger and works.

You can't start peace with the enemy if you refuse to hear them out and just bark orders.  Well that is unless you invade them, which we stopped and did a 40 year long cease fire (korean war was never ended officially).

aletheuo137

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #387 on: March 03, 2022, 12:49:46 PM »
Ukrainian Protesters Surround White House, Demand Biden Stop Russia From Attacking Their Country (VIDEO)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/03/ukrainian-protesters-surround-white-house-demand-biden-stop-russia-attacking-country-video/

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hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #388 on: March 03, 2022, 02:58:46 PM »
Boomerang sanctions are about to smack us square in the face. Hope everyone is having fun with their little virtue signal party. Bring a flashlight.


Hawaii's Only Refiner Suspends Purchases of Russian Oil

http://hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/30174/Hawaiis-Only-Refiner-Suspends-Purchases-of-Russian-Oil
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Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #389 on: March 03, 2022, 04:16:25 PM »
Boomerang sanctions are about to smack us square in the face. Hope everyone is having fun with their little virtue signal party. Bring a flashlight.


Hawaii's Only Refiner Suspends Purchases of Russian Oil

http://hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/30174/Hawaiis-Only-Refiner-Suspends-Purchases-of-Russian-Oil
Only those not brainwashed with US imperial propaganda sees the global economic dangers of the international widespread sanctions that were put on Russia.

The Power Okole that controls the US empire are well aware of its far-reaching effects that will devastate almost all the economies allied to the West.  However, it just goes to show what great lengths those sociopaths are willing to take to attack Russia now and China soon-to-come.  In their eyes, whatever damage they can inflict on Russia and China for that matter outweighs any domestic suffering by those living in the empire.

Sad indeed...

hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #390 on: March 03, 2022, 04:31:18 PM »
The Great Reset with the virus failed, so now they're going to force us to destroy our quality of life and adopt more communist alternative energy scams as they zip around of private jets. This. Cult. Sucks.
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mrgaf

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #391 on: March 03, 2022, 05:10:35 PM »
God bless the great American Empire!  :geekdanc: :shaka:
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

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Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #392 on: March 03, 2022, 05:11:26 PM »
The Great Reset with the virus failed, so now they're going to force us to destroy our quality of life and adopt more communist alternative energy scams as they zip around of private jets. This. Cult. Sucks.
That has been the goal all along for the Power Okole: neo-feudalism administered via communistic means.

Crony/fascistic capitalism for the ultrawealthy and state-run communism for everybody else.

hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #393 on: March 03, 2022, 08:39:14 PM »
Bullshit sandwiches served all day.

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aletheuo137

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #394 on: March 04, 2022, 09:20:06 AM »
Lindsey Graham: Russians Should Assassinate Putin

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/lindsey-graham-assassinate-vladimir-putin-violations/2022/03/04/id/1059624/

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Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #395 on: March 04, 2022, 09:47:16 AM »
As expected with the recent wave of economic sanctions against Russia, the vassal states are beginning to break ranks with the US empire due to the domestic impacts to their own economies.  In Germany's own words:


changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #396 on: March 04, 2022, 10:08:59 AM »
Lindsey Graham: Russians Should Assassinate Putin

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/lindsey-graham-assassinate-vladimir-putin-violations/2022/03/04/id/1059624/

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This is a very dangerous statement to make as a law maker.  You leave this up for the spooks to do.

QUIETShooter

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #397 on: March 04, 2022, 10:12:09 AM »
Can't figure out why America won't lift the ban of it's own manufacturing of gas and energy and supply it domestically and also to European nations like Germany who is relying almost entirely on Russian energy exports.

This will cut straight to where it will hurt the most for Putin and Russia.  This sanctioning of Russian oligarchs is so bullshit and stupid.  Stupid is what Stupid does and biden is not smart.

Why won't we do it?

Because the old senile man acting as POTUS cares more for his green energy friends and ahem, investments than the American people and World peace.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #398 on: March 04, 2022, 10:17:41 AM »
Can't figure out why America won't lift the ban of it's own manufacturing of gas and energy and supply it domestically and also to European nations like Germany who is relying almost entirely on Russian energy exports.

This will cut straight to where it will hurt the most for Putin and Russia.  This sanctioning of Russian oligarchs is so bullshit and stupid.  Stupid is what Stupid does and biden is not smart.

Why won't we do it?

Because the old senile man acting as POTUS cares more for his green energy friends and ahem, investments than the American people and World peace.

This is rhetorical right?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #399 on: March 04, 2022, 10:28:00 AM »
Lindsey Graham: Russians Should Assassinate Putin

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/lindsey-graham-assassinate-vladimir-putin-violations/2022/03/04/id/1059624/

Anyone offended at these comments from Graham must have been doubly offended at Hildabeast referring to the assassination of Qaddafi in Libya.  This was not a call to kill him, but a laughter-filled celebration over the US instigating the uprisings in Muslim countries that year, including Benghazi.




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