Ukraine vs. Russia (Read 298999 times)

hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #420 on: March 06, 2022, 11:26:03 AM »
Maybe the best action, as frustrating as it can be, would be to continue to offer aid in weapons, munitions, and humanitarian efforts, and the sanctions.

That was the plan all along. A nice profitable proxy war.

Unfortunately the people who plan this stuff really suck at planning and now we are all going to pay for it.
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groveler

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #421 on: March 06, 2022, 12:00:59 PM »
I'm not much of a conspiracy guy, I'm more of a Occam's razor sort of person.
I'm beginning to think Putin got suckered into this like Bush did with WMD in Iraq.
I don't believe any media, theirs or ours.  It is not a conspiracy.  All these people believe
that this is truth regardless and they don't question the obvious, Why now?
Why here?
What is the real threat?
What is the real goal?

I'm reminded of the fable about the goose that laid golden eggs,
why are "they"  killing the goose,  a somewhat healthy economy in which many
people have been and are being lifted out of poverty.

Simple answer is one of the deadliest of the seven deadly sins, namely pride.
 >:D








Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #422 on: March 06, 2022, 03:06:21 PM »
For those who refuse to believe Russia's mission to de-Nazify Ukraine, please watch the TIME special on the Azov movement operating in Ukraine below.


ren

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #423 on: March 06, 2022, 03:10:42 PM »
What happened to RT?
Deeds Not Words

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #424 on: March 06, 2022, 03:30:23 PM »
What happened to RT?
RT is still running, but RT America was apparently shut down in DC.

I guess the US imperial propaganda machine does not want any competitors of the truth.

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #425 on: March 06, 2022, 04:58:44 PM »
ONE BIG STEP TO WWIII.


Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #426 on: March 06, 2022, 05:24:07 PM »
ONE BIG STEP TO WWIII.


WWIII is not going to be like the first two.  In fact, historians might look back and determine that WWIII started with the Cold War.  Although we were able to remove the Berlin Wall, and Russia was forced to focus more on economic issues over military growth, Most experts will agree the Cold War never ended.  In fact, Romney told us in 2016 that Russia was our biggest foreign threat, and Obama laughed at him.  After all the reports of "Russian Interference" in elections, deporting Russian nationals accused of hacking the elections on social media, the back and forth in Syria with Putin and Assad, Putin's annexing of Crimea, and now the Ukraine invasion, is it really still comical that we view Russia as our #1 adversary?

I think the Cold War was placed on a back burner, and it has been starting to chill again ever since Obama focused more on domestic terrorism than threats from foreign powers, such as Syria, China, North Korea and Iran.

Our foreign policy has become weak, and it's emboldening the leaders of nations who see us as their enemy.

Imagine if Russia develops the next SARS/COVID virus and uses it against their enemies.  Only this time, the people releasing it have a vaccine ready for their own people...

These are the scenarios that terrify me -- not so much land, sea and air battlefield.

Nukes are always a concern, but we can only hope MAD does its thing and avoids that "situation." 
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #427 on: March 06, 2022, 05:46:09 PM »
Hitler Jugend Ukranian style.    :shake:


QUIETShooter

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #428 on: March 06, 2022, 05:57:46 PM »
For those who refuse to believe Russia's mission to de-Nazify Ukraine, please watch the TIME special on the Azov movement operating in Ukraine below.




Thanks for sharing this.  I'm still learning about Ukraine, it's history and the US involvement with them in recent past.

It's interesting that the people of Ukraine, with the sentiment of it's President are echoing the saying that they are not racist or that they are not Nazis.  Must be a complicated co-existence between the people, government, and an extremist group that hold controversial views yet are fierce and competent fighters that protect the nation.  Reminds me of that movie "A Few Good Men" when the Colonel character was ranting about they (Marines) being shunned by society, yet are needed when the time came to fight:  "You want me on that wall....you NEED me on that wall......"

I wonder how many Americans, like myself, don't know the whole story of Ukraine.  Very interesting.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #429 on: March 06, 2022, 06:13:01 PM »
After all the reports of "Russian Interference" in elections, deporting Russian nationals accused of hacking the elections on social media, the back and forth in Syria with Putin and Assad, Putin's annexing of Crimea, and now the Ukraine invasion, is it really still comical that we view Russia as our #1 adversary?
No, it is not comical for Americans to consider Russia as their #1 adversary.

However, on that same note, with the unapologetic and reckless expansion of NATO to Russia's borders, US imperial orchestrated color revolutions and regime change among the nations that border Russia, and the illegal invasion, attempted presidential overthrow, and occupation of Syria by the US empire; is it really comical for the Russians to think the US empire is their #1 adversary as well?



Our foreign policy has become weak, and it's emboldening the leaders of nations who see us as their enemy.
Yes, the foreign policy of the US empire has become weak, but this is because the US empire's global economic dominance is coming to an end.  One must remember that a nation's foreign policy is primarily influenced and moderated by its economic strength.  The stronger a nation's economy, the stronger its foreign policy will be.

China and its economy will become the most dominant global economy in the next few years and will stay there indefinitely, once China's Belt and Road initiative reaches maturity.  The Power Okole and ultrawealthy in the West are well-aware of this, which explains why they are ensuring that Russia gets bogged down in Ukraine to ensure it's military will be occupied when the US empire begins its imperial conflict with China.



Nukes are always a concern, but we can only hope MADD does its thing and avoids that "situation."
Amen to that.
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rpoL98

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #430 on: March 06, 2022, 06:56:11 PM »
...

Nukes are always a concern, but we can only hope MADD does its thing and avoids that "situation."
Potato's brain is so feeble, he has no comprehension of consequences.

if we start trading nukes, well, it was nice knowing you all.

Kermit will probably not be able to find his Tweeter PW, again.

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #431 on: March 06, 2022, 07:00:49 PM »
More coverage of the Hitler Jugend in Ukraine; this time by the Guardian.  Is this what Americans are defending?  Hitler would be proud.    :wtf:



changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #432 on: March 06, 2022, 07:03:23 PM »
IMO this is all about letting Putin invade so the Biden evidence is destroyed. The Ukraine pres is in on it. He was silent about them years ago, silent about trump/ukraine phone call (impeachment). He is just to blame.

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Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #433 on: March 06, 2022, 07:10:45 PM »
IMO this is all about letting Putin invade so the Biden evidence is destroyed. The Ukraine pres is in on it. He was silent about them years ago, silent about trump/ukraine phone call (impeachment). He is just to blame.
Barring WWIII, once the Russians capture Kiev, the US empire will let their Ukraine puppet Zelensky meet his fate at the hands of the Russians and use his demise to rally the guerrilla resistance against the Russians via the surviving Nazi-Azov battalions and their foreign mercenaries that are on the CIA's payroll.

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #434 on: March 06, 2022, 07:35:56 PM »
Surprise, surprise, it appears the US empire has been arming the Nazis in Ukraine for some years now.  See the proof from a news report back in 2018 below.


Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #435 on: March 06, 2022, 07:57:30 PM »
Hear from two prominent American Russian experts regarding who to blame for the current Ukrainian crisis.


hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #436 on: March 06, 2022, 10:32:07 PM »
I went surfing at rocky point today and the sunset was beautiful. Perfect waves. North shore kids catching insiders on their foamies. Beautiful girls showing lots of skin. I snapped a lot of mental pictures just in case it all gets incinerated
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #437 on: March 06, 2022, 10:52:15 PM »
I went surfing at rocky point today and the sunset was beautiful. Perfect waves. North shore kids catching insiders on their foamies. Beautiful girls showing lots of skin. I snapped a lot of mental pictures just in case it all gets incinerated

What makes you  think "it" can "all [get] incinerated," but somehow you'll survive?

Did you buy a surplus missile silo for a SHTF bunker?  Your secret will be safe with us...   :shaka: :thumbsup: :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #438 on: March 06, 2022, 10:58:27 PM »
The best part about believing in an afterlife is that it makes death a whole lot less scary. If we get to take some memories along then I want to make sure I have some good ones.
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RSN172

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #439 on: March 07, 2022, 05:53:25 AM »
If there is a nuclear attack, I want where ever I am to be ground zero. I rather get vaporized than deal with the aftermath.  That is one advantage of being old, you already enjoyed the best years of your life and everything from here on out is downhill and not in a good sense. That is what makes old people with the right mindset dangerous. The older you get, the less of a deterrent life in prison holds.
Happily living in Puna