Ukraine vs. Russia (Read 360861 times)

macsak

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #700 on: March 17, 2022, 06:48:30 PM »
US Imperialist propaganda

hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #701 on: March 17, 2022, 06:52:50 PM »
I'd like to see some more coverage of peace talks

You know, the kind of thing where we figure out what they want and give it to them if it's not a big deal
If you dissolve your enemies in acid, technically that's turning your problems into a solution.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #702 on: March 17, 2022, 07:36:24 PM »
I do not conduct war on forums, so I am asking you nicely to please stop harassing me.



FIFY
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #703 on: March 17, 2022, 07:41:09 PM »
FIFY
Why do you want to stir things up?

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #704 on: March 17, 2022, 07:46:03 PM »
Tucker exposing more warmongers parroting the march to a potential WWIII.


hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #705 on: March 17, 2022, 07:49:51 PM »
Lack of responsibility?

Check
If you dissolve your enemies in acid, technically that's turning your problems into a solution.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #706 on: March 17, 2022, 08:18:54 PM »
Why do you want to stir things up?

Why not?   :geekdanc:  :popcorn:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

mrgaf

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #707 on: March 17, 2022, 08:33:53 PM »
 
Why not?   :geekdanc:  :popcorn:

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I’m an imperial pain in the ass and a retired member of the imperialist Navy not to mention a first class wise ass from NYC! >:D
« Last Edit: March 17, 2022, 08:45:29 PM by mrgaf »
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Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #708 on: March 17, 2022, 10:32:58 PM »
An English-speaking resident in Kharkov warns about a possible false flag to try and bring in the West into the Ukrainian conflict.  His previous videos provide evidence of his Kharkov residency.


changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #709 on: March 17, 2022, 10:46:59 PM »
US citizens amonst others have gone there to help fight. Some told to go to kyiv with little to no weapons. They refused and got out of dodge. Play warfighter isnt so glamorous.

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ren

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #710 on: March 17, 2022, 10:53:58 PM »
Deeds Not Words

hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #711 on: March 18, 2022, 12:59:23 AM »
If you dissolve your enemies in acid, technically that's turning your problems into a solution.

QUIETShooter

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #712 on: March 18, 2022, 05:44:07 AM »
US citizens amonst others have gone there to help fight. Some told to go to kyiv with little to no weapons. They refused and got out of dodge. Play warfighter isnt so glamorous.

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Interesting to know exactly how Ukraine would help these "foreign fighters" help them fight the Russians.

The language barrier must be the biggest obstacle.

I wonder if it's a "bring your own shit" type of deal.

Also I wonder how many of these fighters got out of dodge after finding out foreign fighters will be treated differently if captured by the Russians.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

aletheuo137

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #713 on: March 18, 2022, 07:59:50 AM »
American Gunmakers Help Ukrainians Fight Back Against Putin

https://www.newsmax.com/finance/streettalk/us-russia-ukraine-ammunition/2022/03/18/id/1061855/

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Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #714 on: March 18, 2022, 08:02:57 AM »
Lies and propaganda: An American mercenary's personal account of going to fight in Ukraine, discovering the real situation and motives, getting the hell out, and warning others not to fight in that death trap.  If true, it goes to show which side is conveying more of who is really winning the conflict in Ukraine.


aletheuo137

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #715 on: March 18, 2022, 08:09:27 AM »
Today’s Ukrainian War Heroes were Yesterday’s White Supremacists and Neo-Nazis Fighting Russia (VIDEO)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/03/todays-ukrainian-war-heroes-yesterdays-white-supremacists-fighting-russia-video/

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aletheuo137

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #716 on: March 18, 2022, 08:29:59 AM »
Report: Russian Foreign Minister's Flight to Beijing Turns Around

https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/russia-ukraine-china-diplomacy/2022/03/17/id/1061740/

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Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #717 on: March 18, 2022, 10:12:14 AM »

Some background to the American mercenary speaker in the video above.


UKRAINE MAR. 17, 2022
The Beefing Boogaloo Boys of Ukraine
By Matt Stieb
(https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/american-military-volunteers-ukraine.html)

Henry Hoeft, a 28-year-old former U.S. Army infantryman and steelworker from a small town outside Columbus, Ohio, was compelled earlier this month to leave his young son to fight in Ukraine, where his father’s family has its roots. After fundraising online and saying his good-byes, Hoeft packed up some of the combat gear he used sporadically in recent years as a member of the boogaloo boys — the extremist, anti-government militia that rose to notoriety in 2020 — and took the route that has become common for the thousands of ex-military types attracted to the newly established Ukrainian foreign legion. Posting about his journey on TikTok and Instagram, he flew to Poland, crossed the border around March 9 with fellow Ohio boogaloo alum Mike Dunn, and joined an outfit accepting combat volunteers from abroad.

“I hope that the war will end tomorrow,” he told the Columbus Dispatch before leaving. “But I will be there for as long as it takes.” Dunn and Hoeft looked energized as they provided family members and thousands of followers with travel updates on social media. After arriving in Ukraine, they described suiting up with the Georgian National Legion (which, unlike some similar groups, does not require foreign fighters to sign indefinite contracts). But within the week, Hoeft had a different message: “People need to stop coming here.”

In a video posted to his Instagram Stories on March 15, Hoeft claimed that he was serving with the Georgian contingent in Ukraine when his base “got fucked up” and a number of foreign volunteers from the U.S. and Great Britain were killed. (A Russian Defense Ministry spokesman referred to military volunteers earlier this month as “mercenaries” who would not be “considered as combatants in accordance with international humanitarian law.”) Hoeft said that when a group of American, Canadian, and British volunteers refused an order to serve in Kyiv with “no fucking weapons” and partially filled magazines, they were told “to get the fuck out” of the brigade. Hoeft says he and two others then hid in the back of an ambulance trying to leave the country. At the border, they stripped off their military gear to pose as civilians when they heard customs officials were sending foreign-legion volunteers back to the front. “It’s a trap,” he said in a video recorded in Poland.

Hoeft’s message and his decision to bow out of the fight early appeared to create a rift between him and Dunn, the former leader of a boogaloo faction in Ohio called the Last Sons of Liberty. A former Marine who says his military career was shortened by a heart condition, Dunn told ProPublica last year that he was “willing to die in the streets” fighting the U.S. government. (Hoeft claims he ditched the Last Sons when the group “got all crazy.”) On his TikTok account, which has now been banned, Dunn pushed back on Hoeft’s claims, while other Georgian National Legion volunteers denied Hoeft’s allegations that they were threatened if they did not leave the unit.

Dunn said that after a supply run to Poland, he decided to join up with a new unit in Ukraine, and he remains “willing to give you my all.” But Hoeft disputed this account: He alleged in a since-deleted Instagram Story that Dunn was kicked out of the Georgian National Legion for his involvement with extremist groups in the U.S. and is now serving with a far-right contingent of the Ukrainian guard whose flag has been championed by white supremacists across the world.

Neither Hoeft nor Dunn responded to requests for comment. The U.S. State Department advises that American citizens should not travel to Ukraine.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #718 on: March 18, 2022, 12:00:38 PM »
The problem with these stories (true or not) saying people are being ejected from foreign legion type groups is mind-boggling.

Throughout history, factions that did not get along with each other were united against a common enemy, whether it was the clans of Scotland against England or th US and Russia against Germany.

If Ukraine is refusing help from people who have offensive affiliations prior to this conflict, then maybe Ukraine is not serious about accepting outside assistance.  Maybe it's just another facet of the Russian Invasion that makes for good stories and clicks/revenue?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #719 on: March 18, 2022, 12:38:49 PM »
"And it can help pay for college!"


If you dissolve your enemies in acid, technically that's turning your problems into a solution.