Ukraine vs. Russia (Read 298704 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1680 on: January 02, 2025, 09:16:37 PM »
If Trump does not end the US imperial proxy war against Ukraine soon, please seriously consider signing up as Ukraine is desperately in need of soldiers especially if you support the neocon fight against Russia.

Do you know how to read a calendar?

Jan 20, 2025 is in the future.  Some people expect miracles.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1681 on: January 08, 2025, 11:58:30 AM »
California sent a bunch of fire fighting equipment to Ukraine. Epic virtue signal.
They wish they kept it now, though>

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/vital-la-firefighting-equipment-was-handed-ukraine-reports-show-americans-now-caught
Sharing is caring, but forced redistribution is communism.

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1682 on: January 08, 2025, 12:08:02 PM »
California sent a bunch of fire fighting equipment to Ukraine. Epic virtue signal.
They wish they kept it now, though>

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/vital-la-firefighting-equipment-was-handed-ukraine-reports-show-americans-now-caught

Maybe they sent water too since their hydrants were dry.

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1683 on: March 05, 2025, 11:06:27 AM »
What happened to all the pro-Ukrainian neocons and imperialists on this forum that did not believe that Russia has been winning the US imperial proxy war against them all this time and/or believed that the war was started by Russia?

It's awfully quiet in this thread.  ;D

hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1684 on: March 05, 2025, 11:28:48 AM »
What happened to all the pro-Ukrainian neocons and imperialists on this forum that did not believe that Russia has been winning the US imperial proxy war against them all this time and/or believed that the war was started by Russia?

It's awfully quiet in this thread.  ;D

The propaganda is breaking down, just like the pro-China stuff has gone eerily quiet now that their economy is clearly in the toilet.
Sharing is caring, but forced redistribution is communism.

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1685 on: March 05, 2025, 11:33:37 AM »
What happened to all the pro-Ukrainian neocons and imperialists on this forum that did not believe that Russia has been winning the US imperial proxy war against them all this time and/or believed that the war was started by Russia?

It's awfully quiet in this thread.  ;D

Maybe there is no new info to report or discuss?  Most members here can refrain from just trying to argue with people or reviving dead threads.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1686 on: March 05, 2025, 12:13:31 PM »
What happened to all the pro-Ukrainian neocons and imperialists on this forum that did not believe that Russia has been winning the US imperial proxy war against them all this time and/or believed that the war was started by Russia?

It's awfully quiet in this thread.  ;D

Maybe there is no new info to report or discuss?  Most members here can refrain from just trying to argue with people or reviving dead threads.

Maybe because there are no "pro-Ukrainian neocons and imperialists on this forum".  There's just one or two members who enjoy name calling, creating division and pretending they have all the answers.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1687 on: March 05, 2025, 12:28:12 PM »
zero commas in 2 sentences...

What happened to all the pro-Ukrainian neocons and imperialists on this forum that did not believe that Russia has been winning the US imperial proxy war against them all this time and/or believed that the war was started by Russia?

It's awfully quiet in this thread.  ;D

Jaco808

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1688 on: March 05, 2025, 03:23:11 PM »
Russia is not winning.   They are losing and Trump is teaming up with Russia. 

Biggest mistake and we all will suffer for it.   Both economical and military disasters.

Who wants to buy American military equipment if the current president can stop its usefulness on a whim.   

I hope the war never ends till Ukraine gets back all it's territory.  Fight for freedom till the very end.  Don't give up. 

Jaco808

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1689 on: March 05, 2025, 03:28:04 PM »
What happened to all the pro-Ukrainian neocons and imperialists on this forum that did not believe that Russia has been winning the US imperial proxy war against them all this time and/or believed that the war was started by Russia?

It's awfully quiet in this thread.  ;D

Russia started the war.  Period.  We have evidence on this,   just like the world is not flat.   We literally have video and audio evidence.   There is a reason why I'm posting less.  I grow tired interacting with people like you.   You can't convince everyone.   You pass a mentally ill homeless person on the street,  you don't try and communicate with them.   You walk past and move on.   

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1690 on: March 05, 2025, 03:38:17 PM »
Russia started the war.  Period.  We have evidence on this,   just like the world is not flat.   We literally have video and audio evidence.   There is a reason why I'm posting less.  I grow tired interacting with people like you.   You can't convince everyone.   You pass a mentally ill homeless person on the street,  you don't try and communicate with them.   You walk past and move on.

Have you ever been to space to see the worlds circular shape?  I've seen tons of movies with monsters and other things that look real (CGI).

I like your reasoning. Makes sense since most of what you post lacks any evidence to back it up.  But the above is correct, Russia did start the war. 1 out of 50 aren't good odds.

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1691 on: March 05, 2025, 03:39:35 PM »
Russia is not winning.   They are losing and Trump is teaming up with Russia. 

Biggest mistake and we all will suffer for it.   Both economical and military disasters.

Who wants to buy American military equipment if the current president can stop its usefulness on a whim.   

I hope the war never ends till Ukraine gets back all it's territory.  Fight for freedom till the very end.  Don't give up.

Care to post evidence that Trump is teaming up with Russia?

I mean, he should team up with both sides to end this war.  A smart negotiator/middleman would do this.

When one teams up with only 1 side, means that a total victory would have to take place. Which means no peace.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1692 on: March 05, 2025, 04:14:41 PM »
Care to post evidence that Trump is teaming up with Russia?

I mean, he should team up with both sides to end this war.  A smart negotiator/middleman would do this.

When one teams up with only 1 side, means that a total victory would have to take place. Which means no peace.
Obviously we support Russia over Ukraine ...

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The United States has given the Ukrainians more than $180 billion in assistance
since Russia launched an all-out war on Feb. 24, 2022, including more than
$66.5 billion in military aid.

Washington provides about 20% of Ukraine’s military supplies, and that includes
the most lethal and important equipment, including longer-range missiles and
Patriot air defense systems that can shoot down the most powerful Russian
projectiles.

American military assistance also goes far beyond weapons and ammunition.

Ukrainian troops rely on satellite communications systems supplied by Elon Musk’s
Starlink to communicate on the front line, and on American intelligence to track
Russian troop movements and select targets for Ukrainian strikes. If the U.S. stops
sharing data from satellites and other assets, it would badly affect Ukraine’s
capability to strike back at Russia, and Ukraine’s other allies lack the resources to
fill the gap.
https://apnews.com/article/us-military-aid-halt-ukraine-explainer-123551e5d86b49fdaa977eae685d32a8

Let us know when Trump cancels all that support and starts providing it to Russia.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1693 on: March 05, 2025, 04:30:46 PM »
Russia is not winning.   They are losing and Trump is teaming up with Russia. 

Biggest mistake and we all will suffer for it.   Both economical and military disasters.

Who wants to buy American military equipment if the current president can stop its usefulness on a whim.   

I hope the war never ends till Ukraine gets back all it's territory.  Fight for freedom till the very end.  Don't give up.

Let's see how committed Ukraine is to it's Freedom and Sovereignty.  The checks are no longer coming in.  Big Brother just gave them (well, actually Zelinsky,) the middle finger. :wave:

Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Q

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1694 on: March 05, 2025, 04:48:07 PM »
Russia started the war.  Period.  We have evidence on this,   just like the world is not flat.   We literally have video and audio evidence.   There is a reason why I'm posting less.  I grow tired interacting with people like you.   You can't convince everyone.   You pass a mentally ill homeless person on the street,  you don't try and communicate with them.   You walk past and move on.

If they are losing, why is Ukraine increasing forced conscription "recruitment" of men in non-combat regions, while also begging other countries to send their own soldiers?

Forced conscription, particularly the way they are doing it in Ukraine, is not necessitated in a conflict a country is winning.

And no one is telling you, let alone forcing you to interact with anyone on this forum. You can keep to yourself on topics or delete your profile and go to whatever other echo chamber forum will cater to your perspective.

rpoL98

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1695 on: March 05, 2025, 06:21:26 PM »
What happened to all the pro-Ukrainian neocons and imperialists on this forum that did not believe that Russia has been winning the US imperial proxy war against them all this time and/or believed that the war was started by Russia?

It's awfully quiet in this thread.  ;D
you mean the Uke-bros vs the Putin-puffers?

rpoL98

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1696 on: March 05, 2025, 06:36:02 PM »
Russia is not winning.   They are losing and Trump is teaming up with Russia. 

Biggest mistake and we all will suffer for it.   Both economical and military disasters.

Who wants to buy American military equipment if the current president can stop its usefulness on a whim.   

I hope the war never ends till Ukraine gets back all it's territory.  Fight for freedom till the very end.  Don't give up.
last time I checked, Russia was occupying 20% of Ukrainian territory, and gaining every day.  Ukrainian foothold in Kursk is now rapidly shrinking, each day.

if the fighting were to continue "till the very end", not sure which would come first:  run out of UKR men to send to the front?  or Russia reaches the border with Poland.

fight till the end?  they're running our of Ukrainian men to send to the front.  So you're of the mind that, fight till the last Ukrainian is dead.  All that will be left is Ukrainian womens.  now that's an interesting situation.  Send Ukraine all the 3rd world refugees as replacement population, Ukraine will become Islamic.  Sharia law, Burkas for the Ukrainian womens.  I'm not sure what's worse for the citizens, or in terms of world stability, Novo Afghanistan, or Novo Moscow.

Trump is trying to help Ukraine save what's left of itself.  Seems like Lil Z prefers to continue the path of self-destruction.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2025, 07:48:13 PM by rpoL98 »

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1697 on: March 11, 2025, 10:34:58 AM »
Ukraine has agreed to a 30 day cease fire and possibly longer.  Now to present the terms to Putin.

Trump is the broker for this deal.  Makes you wonder, why isn't Europe doing more?  The war is a continent away, so we have less skin in the game.

QUIETShooter

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1698 on: March 11, 2025, 11:35:48 AM »
Let's see how committed Ukraine is to it's Freedom and Sovereignty.  The checks are no longer coming in.  Big Brother just gave them (well, actually Zelinsky,) the middle finger. :wave:

Zelinsky:   :(   Ummm, Mr. President Sir.......I'm sorry. :(

and ummmm.....about those checks........


 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1699 on: March 11, 2025, 12:11:28 PM »
X (and maybe Rumble) were the targets of a massive denial of service attack.  So far, the attacks appear to have started in Ukraine.

That's not a good negotiating strategy given the current administration.

Elon Musk Points Finger at Ukraine for
Cyber Attack on X That Caused Major Outages

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Elon Musk has pointed the finger at Ukraine for a major cyber attack
on X (formerly Twitter), that caused outages throughout Monday.

Tens of thousands of users reported at least three major outages of
the website and app.

Pro-Palestinian hacker group Dark Storm Team claimed responsibility
for a DDoS attack on the platform, according to a public Telegram post.
The group is known for primarily targeting countries and entities that
support Israel's attack on Gaza following Hamas' surprise attack on
October 7, 2023.

However, Musk suggested that a "large, coordinated group and/or a
country is involved" in the "massive" hack, in a series of posts on X.
"We get attacked every day, but this was done with a lot of resources."

Musk later told Larry Kudlow, during an interview on Fox News, that
the hackers had "IP addresses originating in the Ukraine area."
https://www.newsweek.com/x-twitter-outage-dark-storm-live-updates-2042333
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw