Ukraine vs. Russia (Read 298534 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1800 on: April 04, 2025, 12:49:25 PM »
you said nothing about goals...

He was hoping you didn't notice the goals (goalposts) were being moved...again.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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QUIETShooter

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1801 on: April 10, 2025, 06:44:15 AM »
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1802 on: April 10, 2025, 10:43:16 AM »
Are the sanctions against Russia working?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/three-years-into-the-ukraine-war-russia-s-army-is-stronger-than-ever/ar-AA1CCtpV?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=e64f3214ccf046bc8081faa1c990b133&ei=75

If it is, the Russian people must be beyond miserable.
I am sure it is clear to you that the US empire's proxy war against Russia is a total failure, despite not only the economic sanctions Russia received, but also it being kicked out of the G7 as well as the US imperial financial system itself (i.e., rules-based order).

The BRICS economic and financial system has proven resilient for Russia and is the main reason all the tariffs Trump are imposing to China, BRICS, and the rest of the planet is doomed to fail.  If anything, Trump is paving the way for the rest of the World to join or be affiliated with BRICS and/or China's Belt and Road Initiative.

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1803 on: April 24, 2025, 12:17:25 PM »
Zelinksy about 2 days ago stated at a PC that he also wants Crimea back too.  Guess he doesn't like how Barry handed it over.

This is what happens when an actor with little leadership experience is elected.  Instead of focusing at the immediate threat of the current war and deaths, he wants to add more to the deal.  More actions that he doesn't want the war to end.

Meantime, Russia launched a bunch of missiles targeting Kyiv civilian areas.

Trump responded that both are foolish. But there's no evidence that Putin ordered the strike. So between the 2 leaders, Zelinsky is the much more foolish one.

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1804 on: May 02, 2025, 01:33:15 PM »
USA and Ukraine signed a mineral deal. This tells me that the USA will continue to send arms to them.

But....

The USA is walking away from being the middleman in peace talks as neither side seems to want to come to an agreement.  "It's between Russia and Ukraine now".

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1805 on: May 02, 2025, 01:52:05 PM »
USA and Ukraine signed a mineral deal. This tells me that the USA will continue to send arms to them.

But....

The USA is walking away from being the middleman in peace talks as neither side seems to want to come to an agreement.  "It's between Russia and Ukraine now".
When you think about it, what good is having a mineral deal with Ukraine if Russia wins?

To me, that signals a long term partnership between the US and Ukraine.

And there are other things the US might have to exchange for minerals other than weapons, such as technology, food, machinery to rebuild with, and our clout in support of Ukraine joining NATO.  Just make sure to get their "NATO dues" up front....
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1806 on: May 05, 2025, 09:05:27 AM »
When you think about it, what good is having a mineral deal with Ukraine if Russia wins?

To me, that signals a long term partnership between the US and Ukraine.

And there are other things the US might have to exchange for minerals other than weapons, such as technology, food, machinery to rebuild with, and our clout in support of Ukraine joining NATO.  Just make sure to get their "NATO dues" up front....

I theory is that if Russia attacked any of these "protected" areas, then it would impact the US and may even seem like a declaration of war. Esp if there are US workers there.

rpoL98

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1807 on: May 05, 2025, 11:45:15 AM »
I theory is that if Russia attacked any of these "protected" areas, then it would impact the US and may even seem like a declaration of war. Esp if there are US workers there.
so that would motivate Russia to capture some of these resource areas before a permanent ceasefire, or before US minerals extraction activity begins.

e.g. the Shevchenko lithium deposits, currently about 3km from the front, and the Pokrovsk coking coal mine (steel alloy component), also about 3 km from the front.  but those 3 clicks are proving to be a really difficult slog.

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1808 on: May 05, 2025, 12:11:42 PM »
so that would motivate Russia to capture some of these resource areas before a permanent ceasefire, or before US minerals extraction activity begins.

e.g. the Shevchenko lithium deposits, currently about 3km from the front, and the Pokrovsk coking coal mine (steel alloy component), also about 3 km from the front.  but those 3 clicks are proving to be a really difficult slog.

Trump will just fly there and sit on a wooden stool. Then Putin wouldn't dare take that area.  The Art of War...

QUIETShooter

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1809 on: May 22, 2025, 06:56:20 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-can-win-the-war-against-russia/ar-AA1FhaxK?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=c0cbf2ec5729441bae3bfe31f60d509f&ei=24


With help from the Western World?  Yes.  can.  Without?  No. no can.  not even.  You dream'in.

Author (deliberately?) left that part out of the title ::)
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changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1810 on: May 22, 2025, 07:52:33 AM »
4got to mention this a few days ago, Trump had another convo with Putin and he said it was productive.

When negotiating to end a war that saves thousands of lives and billions in money, one doesn't talk too much shit like how Zelinsky does.

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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1811 on: May 22, 2025, 09:08:05 AM »
As definitive proof of my idiocy, see my response this morning to a post from three years ago  :thumbsup:

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This is what Admiral Isoruku Yamamoto said in 1941 Japan:

"I would never invade America, there is a gun behind every blade of grass......"

An example as to why the US 2nd amendment is so important.

Yeah, they might have better weapons and armor vests and shit like that but we have the home field advantage.

I have to totally agree with this.  Subjugating an armed population is extremely expensive.

And no - I’m don’t delude myself into thinking that I’m equivalent to even the gayest, crippled Afghan fighter that they fielded over there.  Nevertheless, if that day should actually come, choosing to die trying to kill as many as I could of them would be far preferable than the only other alternative left me at that point - and I’m sure I’m far from alone in feeling that way.

I think it’s very clear that we make the U.S. civilian population kind of like a porcupine to foreign (and domestic) enemies.

… well, us and most of Chicago, Baltimore, Philly, Waianae, etc.
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hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1812 on: May 22, 2025, 12:03:22 PM »

I think it’s very clear that we make the U.S. civilian population kind of like a porcupine to foreign (and domestic) enemies.

… well, us and most of Chicago, Baltimore, Philly, Waianae, etc.

There’s a speculation that the real purpose of war is to dispose of the excess population of young men who are a constant threat to all political establishments.

The cities you mentioned seem to have figured out an alternative method to achieving the same goal.
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QUIETShooter

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1813 on: May 22, 2025, 12:27:24 PM »
We should allow women to go to war.  Conscript them like we do to males.

This way we cut down on the number of karens infesting society.
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rpoL98

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1814 on: May 22, 2025, 01:42:13 PM »
We should allow women to go to war.  Conscript them like we do to males.

This way we cut down on the number of karens infesting society.
i feel sorry for their drill sergeant.

need to be sure the screening process is dialed-in, so we're not shipping out the good ones, needed for population sustainment, positive contribution so society, etc.

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1815 on: May 26, 2025, 01:35:13 PM »
Oh snap. The UK, france and usa restricted the use of long range weapons given to urkaine.

That has been lifted by all 3.

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Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1816 on: May 26, 2025, 03:47:15 PM »
Oh snap. The UK, france and usa restricted the use of long range weapons given to urkaine.

That has been lifted by all 3.
As I shared before, Trump does not want WWIII and has tried to derail/stall the Power Okole's plans to this effect.  However, short of getting the JFK treatment, it appears Trump has capitulated to the oligarchs of the US empire.  Now, it is only a matter of when will the US empire's vassal states in Europe get involved in Ukraine with the US empire itself entering the fray, thereafter.

As a side note, everyone should be paying close attention to what is happening on the Asian front.  The US empire is preparing Ukraine 2.0 with the Philippines and when the US empire green lights the shooting there, economic collapse and global annihilation becomes a real possibility.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1817 on: May 26, 2025, 03:51:40 PM »
As I shared before, Trump does not want WWIII and has tried to derail/stall the Power Okole's plans to this effect.  However, short of getting the JFK treatment, it appears Trump has capitulated to the oligarchs of the US empire.  Now, it is only a matter of when will the US empire's vassal states in Europe get involved in Ukraine with the US empire itself entering the fray, thereafter.

As a side note, everyone should be paying close attention to what is happening on the Asian front.  The US empire is preparing Ukraine 2.0 with the Philippines and when the US empire green lights the shooting there, economic collapse and global annihilation becomes a real possibility.
I would argue that Trump hasn't capitulated at all.  Ukraine and Russia are the combatants.  So, until they are both willing to negotiate, all Trump can do is continue supporting Ukraine no matter how reluctantly.  Withdrawing support at this point would be similar to the way we withdrew from Afghanistan.

I think Trump sees what options are available and is choosing the least detrimental one.  If it were just up to him, there would have been at least a cease fire months ago.
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1818 on: May 26, 2025, 03:55:55 PM »
Just because no one has directly stated that they support the US empire's goading WWIII to Russia and China for that matter, that does not mean there are some who silently support this insane march-to-war.  There have been at least two or three forum members that have expressed reservations about the current US/NATO military antagonistic moves in Eastern Europe, but there has also been dead silence regarding direct open criticism and/or call for an end to the US empire's drive to subjugate Russia, China, Iran, and all the other nations that refuse US imperial hegemony on this planet.

Inaction is action.

Case-in-point, the US Navy has majorly doomed the water supply for Oahu residents for years or even decades to come.  Everybody on Oahu is angry and wants those tanks out, as that is the right thing to do.  Since this affects everyone, including many on this forum, where are the posts in solidarity for this action against the US Navy?  The deafening silence can only be attributed because the many pro-US military posters here can't bring themselves to openly criticize what they know is right for whatever their reason to the detriment of everybody else who has to drink potentially contaminated water, including themselves.  Consequently, those people quietly assent to the US Navy's human-poisoning position regarding this matter.  As far as the US imperial military is concerned, the people living in Hawaii are inconsequential and collateral damage in the name of the US empire, right?

The World is very close into entering WWIII and the US empire is leading the way to this insanity.  However, the overwhelming absence of direct vocal opposition to this path towards human extinction is what clearly exemplifies that there are some on this forum who are OK with that just because of their personal denial that the once-great American republic has longed ceased to exist.

Yes it's madness - globalist madness, and the Biden Admin. was key, and gave it cover.

Even Pope Francis (of all people...) correctly called it as ultimately stemming from NATO provocation - threatening a NATO state on Russia's border.

And of course the Biden Crime Family was balls deep in Ukraine leading up to this.

You can tell it's all from the same source by looking at all the Ukraine flags the meat puppets plastered everywhere - er, ah,... until they received instructions to replace them with keffiyeh's and chants of "Free, Free Palestine, Kill the J**s."

Now that the Biden Admin. has been decapitated, let's pray that the globalist march to WWIII is mortally wounded.
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changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1819 on: May 26, 2025, 04:37:45 PM »
Trump tries for peace. But neither side is willing to make a deal.

So now hes  escalating it.

With the unlimited weapons all 3 has, its only a matter of time b4 russia is destroyed. Not by invasion, but their ability to make weaponry.





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