Ukraine vs. Russia (Read 298498 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1820 on: May 26, 2025, 04:44:14 PM »
Trump tries for peace. But neither side is willing to make a deal.

So now hes  escalating it.

With the unlimited weapons all 3 has, its only a matter of time b4 russia is destroyed. Not by invasion, but their ability to make weaponry.

That's how the Cold Was was ended.  Reagan showed the USSR that we were willing and able to outspend them in all areas of developing and producing weapons as well as increasing the size and quality of our fighting force.  The main reason the Cold War lasted so long was due to Russia's belief they had the means to survive a war with NATO. 

We left billion$ in equipment for the Taliban when we pulled out of Afghanistan.  Now that we are supplying Ukraine, it appears we really could have used all that quipment.
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hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1821 on: May 26, 2025, 05:27:21 PM »
As a side note, everyone should be paying close attention to what is happening on the Asian front.  The US empire is preparing Ukraine 2.0 with the Philippines and when the US empire green lights the shooting there, economic collapse and global annihilation becomes a real possibility.

Ccp already accomplished that with their virus and “cure”. Birth rates are plummeting in all the vaccinated countries. We can’t afford to risk living in a world where the CCP exists
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Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1822 on: May 26, 2025, 08:12:34 PM »
Ccp already accomplished that with their virus and “cure”. Birth rates are plummeting in all the vaccinated countries. We can’t afford to risk living in a world where the CCP exists.
Whether you love or hate the CCP, the CCP is responsible for returning China into the economic powerhouse that it has historically ALWAYS been on planet Earth. Not bad for a so-called communist party in doing so especially without illegal invasions, overthrows, color revolutions, and war.  Moreover, it is China led by the CCP, Russia, and the rest of BRICS that are finally breaking the imperial dominance of the US empire and allowing those countries who join to have real freedom from the clutches of the Anglo-Saxon powers of the last few centuries.

As for your position I highlighted, the nations of BRICS, the Global South, and Africa definitely beg to differ.

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1823 on: May 26, 2025, 08:17:11 PM »
Now that we are supplying Ukraine, it appears we really could have used all that equipment.
To do what?

Continue the US empire's proxy war against Russia to hasten the march to WWIII?

ren

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1824 on: May 26, 2025, 09:44:33 PM »
To do what?

Continue the US empire's proxy war against Russia to hasten the march to WWIII?

US is the #1 seller of arms in the world. Equipment sent to Ukraine is equipment that could have been sold.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1825 on: May 26, 2025, 11:49:45 PM »
US is the #1 seller of arms in the world. Equipment sent to Ukraine is equipment that could have been sold.
Or, we send used equipment to Ukraine and replace it with new for our military.
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hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1826 on: May 27, 2025, 12:07:27 AM »
Whether you love or hate the CCP, the CCP is responsible for returning China into the economic powerhouse that it has historically ALWAYS been on planet Earth. Not bad for a so-called communist party in doing so especially without illegal invasions, overthrows, color revolutions, and war.  Moreover, it is China led by the CCP, Russia, and the rest of BRICS that are finally breaking the imperial dominance of the US empire and allowing those countries who join to have real freedom from the clutches of the Anglo-Saxon powers of the last few centuries.
]As for your position I highlighted, the nations of BRICS, the Global South, and Africa definitely beg to differ.

Not true at all. The CCP was about to be overthrown but we bailed them out in order to get access to their slave labor markets.

Our oligarchs sold out both of our nations by supporting those monsters, and the thanks we get is being constantly stabbed in the back.

Too many of our pols, pundits and academics are taking CCP bribes and destroying our nation from within. Time to clean house before the CCP does to us what they do best.





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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1827 on: May 27, 2025, 06:41:58 AM »
Not true at all. The CCP was about to be overthrown but we bailed them out in order to get access to their slave labor markets.

Our oligarchs sold out both of our nations by supporting those monsters, and the thanks we get is being constantly stabbed in the back.

Too many of our pols, pundits and academics are taking CCP bribes and destroying our nation from within. Time to clean house before the CCP does to us what they do best.



Yes this is true.

The Party was forced to adopt the methodologies of capitalism in order to not be eaten by a billion or so Chinese, however they are very much still the vile CCP.

Speaking of cleaning house, it never ceases to astound me that once it was made public that U.S. taxpayer dollars were being spent by a U.S. government agency to engage in gain-of-function bioweapon research IN A CCP BIOWEAPON LAB, that everyone involved in this country was not fully investigated and brought up on charges of TREASON.

The fact that this hasn't happened speaks most eloquently about our existential need to clean house that you mention - and of course it speaks to the fact that we are not running our own country.
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QUIETShooter

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1828 on: May 27, 2025, 08:46:15 AM »
The way covid was handled was a f*ckn joke.  A demorat social experiment.  They took notes.

They will try again.
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Jaco808

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1829 on: May 27, 2025, 09:21:53 AM »
Or, we send used equipment to Ukraine and replace it with new for our military.

Exactly this.   Get rid of old stock.  Much cheaper than proper disposal.   Replace with better new stuff.   

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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1830 on: May 27, 2025, 09:58:40 AM »
The way covid was handled was a f*ckn joke.  A demorat social experiment.  They took notes.

They will try again.

Yes, human history clearly shows that they will not stop, until they are stopped.

During COVID they bared their faces clearly, and anyone who doesn't get that, doesn't stand a chance going forward.
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hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1831 on: May 27, 2025, 11:12:41 AM »
Exactly this.   Get rid of old stock.  Much cheaper than proper disposal.   Replace with better new stuff.

We’re literally out of artillery shells and we don’t even make them any more.

It’s almost like this Ukraine thing has suspiciously worked out in china’s favor.

Maybe it’s time to examine the bank accounts of the Ukraine hawks and see where they got their money for the past few years.

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Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1832 on: May 28, 2025, 11:42:46 AM »
The CCP was about to be overthrown
Do you mean the failed so-called democracy revolution attempt orchestrated by the CIA that culminated in the events at Tiananmen Square?



but we bailed them out in order to get access to their slave labor markets.
The US empire did not bail China out of nothing as the oligarchs of the US empire were determined to exploit cheap Chinese labor no matter who was in control of China as they still do today.



Our oligarchs sold out both of our nations by supporting those monsters, and the thanks we get is being constantly stabbed in the back.

Too many of our pols, pundits and academics are taking CCP bribes and destroying our nation from within. Time to clean house before the CCP does to us what they do best.
If that is true, then explain why the US empire surrounds China with its military garrisons in Asia and fostering Ukraine 2.0 via the Philippines in a proxy war against China?

You seem to think the CCP controls things in the US empire; hence, is what I stated above part of the CCP's plan as well?  I think not...

You should stop allowing your hatred for China masked under the guise of the CCP to deflect the true blame that solely belongs to the oligarchs of the US empire who are the only psychotics trying to start WWIII to maintain their control of the planet.

macsak

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1833 on: May 28, 2025, 11:47:43 AM »
please explain how there will be a WW III where there will be any of the planet worthy of being controlled
are you saying that the US Imperialist Empire will force China into a conventional only war?

Do you mean the failed so-called democracy revolution attempt orchestrated by the CIA that culminated in the events at Tiananmen Square?


The US empire did not bail China out of nothing as the oligarchs of the US empire were determined to exploit cheap Chinese labor no matter who was in control of China as they still do today.


If that is true, then explain why the US empire surrounds China with its military garrisons in Asia and fostering Ukraine 2.0 via the Philippines in a proxy war against China?

You seem to think the CCP controls things in the US empire; hence, is what I stated above part of the CCP's plan as well?  I think not...

You should stop allowing your hatred for China masked under the guise of the CCP to deflect the true blame that solely belongs to the oligarchs of the US empire who are the only psychotics trying to start WWIII to maintain their control of the planet.

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1834 on: May 28, 2025, 11:49:09 AM »
We’re literally out of artillery shells and we don’t even make them any more.

It’s almost like this Ukraine thing has suspiciously worked out in china’s favor.

Maybe it’s time to examine the bank accounts of the Ukraine hawks and see where they got their money for the past few years.
Let me guess.   CHINA, CHINA, CHINA.   ;)

The US empire is covertly preparing another proxy war this time against China, and you still think China are the one calling the shots in the US empire?   :shake:

Wow, clearly President Xi has some secret long-term strategy to control the US empire that would make Sun Tsu proud.   :rofl:

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1835 on: May 28, 2025, 11:56:47 AM »
are you saying that the US Imperialist Empire will force China into a conventional only war?
Looking carefully at what it is happening at the US empire's proxy war against Russia via Ukraine that could go nuclear at any moment, there is no reason to think that the US empire will not roll the dice hoping that their proxy conflict against China via the Philippines will similarly remain conventional.

Personally, I think the oligarchs of the US empire are desperate to maintain their global dominance and are willing to risk the future of the planet and everyone on it to maintain their control.

Jaco808

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1836 on: May 28, 2025, 08:09:38 PM »
Fuck China,  Fuck Russia.  I will root for Ukraine and Taiwan.   No one is going nuke anyone and it's not worth sacrificing freedom just because people are scared of nukes.   We must support democracy throughout the world. 

ren

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1837 on: May 28, 2025, 08:40:25 PM »
All this love for China...as if it is the greatest democratic country on Earth...so much that they care so deeply for its people...
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hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1838 on: May 28, 2025, 09:06:30 PM »
Let me guess.   CHINA, CHINA, CHINA.   ;)

The US empire is covertly preparing another proxy war this time against China, and you still think China are the one calling the shots in the US empire?   :shake:

Wow, clearly President Xi has some secret long-term strategy to control the US empire that would make Sun Tsu proud.   :rofl:

It’s not a theory. They have been secretly attacking us for decades and only now are we beginning to understand the true cost of doing business with evil.

Anyone who bought cheap solar panels over the past few years better watch out.

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QUIETShooter

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1839 on: May 29, 2025, 09:06:39 AM »
Like Brooce Rhee said, "The art of fighting without fighting......"
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.