Flapjack discussion (Read 3201 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Flapjack discussion
« on: February 13, 2022, 05:49:24 PM »
As a devotee to the art of making pancakes, as you might guess from my screen name, I started out in Boy Scouts and at home using Bisquick mix.  It was a versatile product used for pancakes, biscuits, and even Dutch Oven fruit cobbler recipes.

Later, I sampled some of the other pancake mixes from Aunt Jemima, Betty Crocker, etc.  I settled on Krusteaz, since it was easy, okay-tasting, and available at Costco and most other markets.

Today, I tried out a recipe I found online.  It claimed to be a copy-cat recipe for IHOP's pancakes.  After making sure I had fresh supplies of all the ingredients, I tried it out.  It takes an hour for the batter to rest in the fridge before cooking, so plan accordingly.

The result?  Fantastic!  I think I'll cut back a little on the sugar next time, but the texture, flavor and general appearance is from my memory pretty darn close to IHOP!

It's the second scratch recipe for pancakes I tried recently, and it's by far much better than the first.

Here's the link to the recipe.  If you like sugar, don't change it.  If you don't like an overly sweet pancake that adds extra sweetness on top of any syrup or other toppings you use, then I'd reduce the 1/4 Cup of sugar to maybe 50% to 75% of that much, plus or minus. 



I've made my own buttermilk in the past with vinegar and whole milk for things like crispy fried chicken strips, but this time I bought a quart of cultured buttermilk from Times.  The recipe for that is online at many sites.  Pretty basic, and you can can use vinegar or lime juice, maybe other additives to turn regular milk into buttermilk.  Since I I wanted everything to be according to the recipe as closely as possible before I start deviating, I went with store-bought this time.

By the way, I also read if you have a quart or less of cultured buttermilk, and you see that you'll need more than that, you can use that buttermilk to make more.  It takes about a day, so give it time.  Put a certain amount of buttermilk in a certain larger amount of whole milk.  In 24 hours, the cultures have created buttermilk from the regular milk.  Pretty cool! 

Let us know if you have a chance to try this, or of you have a secret family recipe you'd love to share with the Inter Webs! 

Aloha!
 :shaka:
« Last Edit: February 13, 2022, 05:56:36 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Flapjack discussion
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2022, 05:51:05 PM »
I asked the mods to move this to off topic.  I thought I was there already.

#InBeforeMoveComments   :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Flapjack discussion
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2022, 06:22:36 PM »
I asked the mods to move this to off topic.  I thought I was there already.

#InBeforeMoveComments   :geekdanc:
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Flapjack discussion
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2022, 06:28:52 PM »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

oldfart

Re: Flapjack discussion
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2022, 01:21:52 AM »
Good intel.
Btw, National Pancake Day is March 1, 2022.
What would be the favorite syrup for this?
What, Me Worry?

QUIETShooter

Re: Flapjack discussion
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2022, 06:32:38 AM »
Too


much



sugar ....
 :shake:

Lol!  ;D  I love pancakes.  I haven't tried making from scratch like forever.  If I ever get off my lazy a$$ I'll head over to the store and pick up the stuff I need and try that Ihop copycat recipe.

Thanks for sharing! :shaka:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

astroboy

Re: Flapjack discussion
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2022, 10:07:46 AM »
The video is very close to what I make.
I use 1 cup whole wheat flour and 1/2 cup gen. purpose white flour.
It's not really health food but I like it.



changemyoil66

Re: Flapjack discussion
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2022, 12:08:38 PM »
I'll show Mrs. CMO this thread, she likes blueberry pancakes. Me, I'm not a pancake, waffle, flapjack, toast kind of guy. I enjoy white rice with my breakfast.

When Yugur story opens back up (relocating to Likelike Drive Inn), check out their Ube pancakes. But they did get smaller from a few years ago.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Flapjack discussion
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2022, 12:35:09 PM »
Lol!  ;D  I love pancakes.  I haven't tried making from scratch like forever.  If I ever get off my lazy a$$ I'll head over to the store and pick up the stuff I need and try that Ihop copycat recipe.

Thanks for sharing! :shaka:

I started watching some YT videos on "The Chemistry of Pancakes."  I was shocked at how many there are!   A bunch are kid's/school videos for chemistry demonstrations and projects.

Based on those recipes, I may be experimenting with the IHOP copy-cat ingredients.

I will definitely be using less sugar, probably starting out around 3 Tbsp versus 1/4 cup.

I may also mess around with how much baking soda to use.  Might cut that in half and maybe add a smaller portion of baking powder to compensate.

One recipe uses a dash of Vanilla extract.  That's included in one chemistry video recipe.

There's always a 1 vs. 2 egg difference from all the pancake recipes I've used.  With 1 1/4 cup of flour and milk, I would have used 2 eggs.  I'm probably going to reduce those to 1 Cup each so the rest of the ingredients have more prominence in the final result.  I may also try just decreasing the flour and keeping the milk at over 1 Cup, if not the full 1 1/4 Cup.  The batter before came out amazingly thick.  I prefer it just  little less thick.

As for the process, every other video says to mix the ingredients until combined, but to not "over mix."  Leave lumps but make sure there are no pockets of uncombined flour in the batter.  Then use the batter about 2 minutes after mixing.  That's so the chemical reactions between the acids and bases are still going on.

That's the opposite of the copy-cat recipe.  That one says to mix the batter until silky smooth (no lumps) and let it rest in the fridge for 1 hour.  The recipes are overwhelmingly in favor of not over-mixing and using after a few minutes -- not 1 hour later.  Consensus, or science?  Hmm....

Another detail one video recommended was to leave the ingredients out until they are room temp before mixing.  I find that kind of odd.  I've experimented leaving a steak out to warm up to room temp, and that required a 1 inch ribeye to sit out for over 3 hours.  Not a realistic requirement.  The melted butter, however, should be allowed to cool off before using.

As with most YT recipes, everybody has a different one.  It's going to take a few batches to get the best combo, I think.  But the copy-cat recipe is a good place to start.

BTW, if you are curious about the homemade buttermilk, take a cup of whole or 2% skim milk (whole is better) and add one tablespoon of white distilled vinegar, lime juice or lemon juice.  Let that sit out for 10 minutes, and you should see the milk start to thicken up just like buttermilk.

If you have some cultured buttermilk and want to make more, pour 1/2 cup of the cultured buttermilk into the bottom of a lidded container that'll hold 6 cups.  A standard Mason jar will do, or use any non-reactive container with a lid.  Pour in 1 quart of milk (whole, 2% or 1%). Stir to combine the milk and buttermilk thoroughly. Place the lid on your container. Leave it out on the counter at ambient room temperature.  After 12 to 24 hours, the mixture will thicken. The longer you leave it out, the thicker and tangier the buttermilk will be.   You can then store the buttermilk in the fridge for up to a month.

Buttermilk Substitutes:
https://www.foodnetwork.com/how-to/packages/help-around-the-kitchen/buttermilk-substitute
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Flapjack discussion
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2022, 02:14:19 PM »
My uncle would make pancakes using the standard bisquick mix but he would tweak slightly and they would come out amazing, no idea how he did it though. I don't have any secret pancake tricks though.

My son found a waffle recipe where you whip the egg whites separately and fold them together. The waffles come out so light but crispy

stangzilla

Re: Flapjack discussion
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2022, 02:27:12 PM »
I love IHOP.  i wish there was one near to my house.  or maybe i'll try this recipe at home.   :shaka: