So we all have some kind of prep and plans.  With the coverage of Ukraine and buildings destroyed (civilian), what are plans to evac to another location and what would you bring.  Because you can't bring all your preps. Basically  you are forced to leave you home.

1) We have a BOB that has 3 days supply of food, water, and some other survival goodies like fishing line/hooks, water purification, am/fm radio hand crank, flash light and batteries, duct tape, matches, wire saw, knife, etc...

2) If time permits, I plan on bringing firearms.  But it all depends on the situation as to how I am carrying them. Obviously in time of war/invasion, it's open carrying.  But for other stuff like natural disasters, in a rifle bag that can be carried as a backpack. This keeps the arms free as possible.  Plate carrier all depends. If war zone, then I will hump it. But if natural disaster, then leave behind due to weight and cumbersome

3) If the roads are open, then packing the cars with all the preps, so not much of an issue as to what to hump.

4) Choosing 2 of the 3 cats. I will carry 1 in a shoulder bag and Mrs. CMO will carry another in a pack back. 2 of 3 because we only took in 1 of them because they came as a pair (sisters).  And was told not to separate them. So by default, 1 of them we took in.

5) We have a 2nd and 3rd location as back up.  Both are in walking distance, but driving is preferred.  Both locations have some additional preps kept.  Both are separate from each other as to if 1 area is destroyed, the other might be OK. Like not walking from Honolulu to Makaha, but 1-2 hour walk.

6) Red cross shelters are a last resort as to I will have firearms with us and often they are in school gyms/cafeterias. So not sure if they will allow firearms in a case. I'm sure they won't.  Then we all saw what happened at the Saints football stadium during Katrina.  I do believe that HI would not be as bad, but you never know.

7) Another thought would be to come to my office and bunker down.  It's also in walking distance.

For got to add that it's been over a week that people evac'd from their homes and so far there is enough and water to go around.  Haven't seen any looting by Ukraine citizens.

I'll just stay home. If the house got knocked down I have lots of bamboo and ohia to build shelter and plenty of 12x16 tarps from Costco that are new and kept just for that purpose.   100s of feet of paracord, nails and deck screws from 1 1/8 to 5 inch, 180 eucalyptus logs 18 to 32 inch dia and 10 ft long and 2 sawmills. I can make lumber as needed.  Option 2 is go to groveler's house. LOL.

first choice - stay home
houses on either side have pools, and you turn off chlorine system and let it gas off and purify
have enough purifier to clean out both pools, will give neighbors clean water in exchange for some for us

second choice - i have 2 friends that live in hawaii kai that have 2 story houses, both have trucks
i told them whoever comes and gets me and my mom first can hypothetically help me transport a hypothetical safe loaded full of hypothetical guns and ammo
if i owned any
which i don't

first choice - stay home
houses on either side have pools, and you turn off chlorine system and let it gas off and purify
have enough purifier to clean out both pools, will give neighbors clean water in exchange for some for us

second choice - i have 2 friends that live in hawaii kai that have 2 story houses, both have trucks
i told them whoever comes and gets me and my mom first can hypothetically help me transport a hypothetical safe loaded full of hypothetical guns and ammo
if i owned any
which i don't

First choice - stay home
Second choice - go find "a friend" in HK.  Even if they don't have ammo, preps, anything useful, at all, what-so-evar

First choice - stay home
Second choice - go find "a friend" in HK.  Even if they don't have ammo, preps, anything useful, at all, what-so-evar

But at night all you will hear is HEADS, HEADS, FOCUS, NO FOCUS, HEADS. Tourettes meds would be out of stock as the pharmacies will be closed.

First choice - stay home
Second choice - go find "a friend" in HK.  Even if they don't have ammo, preps, anything useful, at all, what-so-evar

bruh, lul
that "friend" in HK no can shoot even if he had guns and ammo
range too far...

But at night all you will hear is HEADS, HEADS, FOCUS, NO FOCUS, HEADS. Tourettes meds would be out of stock as the pharmacies will be closed.

TQ can serve as "outburst restraint device".

bruh, lul
that "friend" in HK no can shoot even if he had guns and ammo
range too far...

always can use cover on the "low left" sector 

TQ can serve as "outburst restraint device".
always can use cover on the "low left" sector 

LEFT

But at night all you will hear is HEADS, HEADS, FOCUS, NO FOCUS, HEADS. Tourettes meds would be out of stock as the pharmacies will be closed.

HEADS

HEADS

There's that nasty tick again!

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Apparently a lot of Ukrainian women and girls are getting scooped up by sex traffickers as they cross the border. I wish my better half had training in case something happens to me but she’s not into that stuff.

Apparently a lot of Ukrainian women and girls are getting scooped up by sex traffickers as they cross the border. I wish my better half had training in case something happens to me but she’s not into that stuff.

IDK if I posted this in my Vegas thread, but some sketch guys were following Mrs. CMO in Cosmo.  She was playing slots in an isolated area and the only player there. 2 guys wearing hoodies, which isn't too common in this hotel kept looking her way.  Then when she would move, so would they.  After X amount of time, she got the bad juju from them and decided to leave and find me at the tables.  Had they tried to kidnap/abduct her, they would have been in for a big surprise as she is packing.  From what I've seen on other Asian IG pages, Asians don't carry as often as other races. Which makes them prime targets.

IDK if I posted this in my Vegas thread, but some sketch guys were following Mrs. CMO in Cosmo.  She was playing slots in an isolated area and the only player there. 2 guys wearing hoodies, which isn't too common in this hotel kept looking her way.  Then when she would move, so would they.  After X amount of time, she got the bad juju from them and decided to leave and find me at the tables.  Had they tried to kidnap/abduct her, they would have been in for a big surprise as she is packing.  From what I've seen on other Asian IG pages, Asians don't carry as often as other races. Which makes them prime targets.

Not to downplay the hypothetical potential dangers, but in my experience, when the slots areas are sparsely inhabited, it's common for "vultures" to follow players.  When the player leaves a machine, the vultures swoop in to play that machine.  That used to work more when the machines were mechanical, but in the digital age, the wins are more random.  A machine doesn't pay out now because it's "due to pay off the jackpot."  It's all up to the computer and your timing.

Anyway, I had a guy follow me at Caesar's.  I had a feeling about a Wheel of Fortune $1 machine (probably $2 max, or maybe $3), but went through a Benjamin without a single spin on the bonus wheel.

Sure enough, as soon as I moved to the MegaBucks machine, he jumped on the WoF machine I was playing!

Not sure how much he lost, but he left without any bonus spins, too.

I cashed out of the MegaBucks while I was up and went back to the same WoF.  I put $20 in.  On the 3rd spin, I hit the bonus spin, and it stopped on the $1,000 spot!  I kept looking around for the vulture to make sure he saw me, but he'd apparently left that area.

Anyway, don't attribute threats to people who haven't threatened you (or her) yet.  If you feel someone is following, just go where you aren't isolated and alone.  If guys are following a female, going to the ladies room might be a good move.  She can call you to come escort her if they remain nearby.

The casino floors are normally pretty safe, since everyone knows about all the cameras.  But, with masks, hats and hoodies, it's easier to be anonymous. 

Situational awareness ... always.

Not to downplay the hypothetical potential dangers, but in my experience, when the slots areas are sparsely inhabited, it's common for "vultures" to follow players.  When the player leaves a machine, the vultures swoop in to play that machine.  That used to work more when the machines were mechanical, but in the digital age, the wins are more random.  A machine doesn't pay out now because it's "due to pay off the jackpot."  It's all up to the computer and your timing.

Anyway, I had a guy follow me at Caesar's.  I had a feeling about a Wheel of Fortune $1 machine (probably $2 max, or maybe $3), but went through a Benjamin without a single spin on the bonus wheel.

Sure enough, as soon as I moved to the MegaBucks machine, he jumped on the WoF machine I was playing!

Not sure how much he lost, but he left without any bonus spins, too.

I cashed out of the MegaBucks while I was up and went back to the same WoF.  I put $20 in.  On the 3rd spin, I hit the bonus spin, and it stopped on the $1,000 spot!  I kept looking around for the vulture to make sure he saw me, but he'd apparently left that area.

Anyway, don't attribute threats to people who haven't threatened you (or her) yet.  If you feel someone is following, just go where you aren't isolated and alone.  If guys are following a female, going to the ladies room might be a good move.  She can call you to come escort her if they remain nearby.

The casino floors are normally pretty safe, since everyone knows about all the cameras.  But, with masks, hats and hoodies, it's easier to be anonymous. 

Situational awareness ... always.

She did think that at first, but since every time she moved, they followed and weren't playing anything her spidey sense went off.  Then add in the face mask and hoodie that both were wearing.  I was watching a vid on interviews of people who were attacked/robbed in public.  Many felt that something was wrong, but kept walking anyways (disregarded their intuition).  Which is the vibe she got, so she came to where I was playing.  She hung with me for a while cause the table was hot.  Then I went with her to keep her company in that isolated area of the slots that she wanted to play. BUFFALLOOOOO and WOF.

I'll just stay home. If the house got knocked down I have lots of bamboo and ohia to build shelter and plenty of 12x16 tarps from Costco that are new and kept just for that purpose.   100s of feet of paracord, nails and deck screws from 1 1/8 to 5 inch, 180 eucalyptus logs 18 to 32 inch dia and 10 ft long and 2 sawmills. I can make lumber as needed.  Option 2 is go to groveler's house. LOL.

"Option 2 is go to groveler's house. LOL."

I didn't catch that one right away.
Bring a sawmill with you.
I have a few trees.
 

lol
that was in my youtube suggestions this morning too...

The takedown version looks cool, and what they are doing reminds me of B. Herrera's 50bmg AK experiments, but this isn't the sort of thing that anyone in the field should be depending their life on unless they are really desperate.