Ige's proc ended on 3/26; and with it was the reg waiver of the 5 days.  Now you can do them online.  Only took us a few mins to do.

Ige's proc ended on 3/26; and with it was the reg waiver of the 5 days.  Now you can do them online.  Only took us a few mins to do.

could someone please translate into english?

could someone please translate into english?

Something something Ige’s proctologist being up his rear end or something….I dunno

Online registration.
Handguns. Selller is still supposed to submit the signed permit to HPD in person or by registered mail within two days.

“ Private Seller or Gun Dealer:

For handgun, the original firearm permit (HANDGUN) must be signed in ink on the back by both seller and buyer. The seller shall cause the permit to be delivered to the HPD Firearms Section within 48 hours after the transfer of the firearm.  (In-person or via registered mail)

The buyer will then register their firearm with HPD.”

https://www.honolulupd.org/police-services/firearms/

could someone please translate into english?

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could someone please translate into english?

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Man that tick is contagious!

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could someone please translate into english?

He's saying to buy plenty of guns in the next 5 days. . . duh

What bothers me is I understood the OP.

 

Online registration.
Handguns. Selller is still supposed to submit the signed permit to HPD in person or by registered mail within two days.

“ Private Seller or Gun Dealer:

For handgun, the original firearm permit (HANDGUN) must be signed in ink on the back by both seller and buyer. The seller shall cause the permit to be delivered to the HPD Firearms Section within 48 hours after the transfer of the firearm.  (In-person or via registered mail)

The buyer will then register their firearm with HPD.”

https://www.honolulupd.org/police-services/firearms/

Hey Flapp is this for real?
It’s on the HPD website but I can’t find it anywhere in HRS.
Figured I’d check with your Google fu ability.
I was talking to my friend whose permitting and registering a gun from me and he said HPD says all kinds of crap (which we all know)
But they actually put this on their website.

Or anyone else who can verify. I couldn’t.

HPD always full of crap and making up their own rules... The law states that every person must be fingerprinted and photographed, not that the firearms must be presented. HiFiCo took care of that stupidity in their lawsuit.
...
Yukutake Vs Connors 
The lawsuit alleges that Hawaii’s requirement to transport a firearm to a police station for registration and Honolulu police department policies for the acquisition and registration of firearms is burdensome and unconstitutional.

The city has settled the lawsuit allowing for late opening on Wednesdays and emailing permits.
A Judge ruled that Hawaii’s requirement to bring a firearm to the police station and register in person is unconstitutional.
STATUS: OPEN. This is on appeal at the 9th circuit. In-person registration and show and tell for the firearm are suspended pending this appeal.

Read about it here: https://casetext.com/case/yukutake-v-connors-1

...

§134-3  Registration, mandatory, exceptions. (a)  Every resident or other person arriving in the State who brings or by any other manner causes to be brought into the State a firearm of any description, whether usable or unusable, serviceable or unserviceable, modern or antique, shall register the firearm within five days after arrival of the person or of the firearm, whichever arrives later, with the chief of police of the county of the person's place of business or, if there is no place of business, the person's residence or, if there is neither a place of business nor residence, the person's place of sojourn.  A nonresident alien may bring firearms not otherwise prohibited by law into the State for a continuous period not to exceed ninety days; provided that the person meets the registration requirement of this section and the person possesses:

     (1)  A valid Hawaii hunting license procured under chapter 183D, part II, or a commercial or private shooting preserve permit issued pursuant to section 183D-34;

     (2)  A written document indicating the person has been invited to the State to shoot on private land; or

     (3)  Written notification from a firing range or target shooting business indicating that the person will actually engage in target shooting.

The nonresident alien shall be limited to a nontransferable registration of not more than ten firearms for the purpose of the above activities.

     Every person registering a firearm under this subsection shall be fingerprinted and photographed by the police department of the county of registration; provided that this requirement shall be waived where fingerprints and photographs are already on file with the police department. The police department shall perform an inquiry on the person by using the International Justice and Public Safety Network, including the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement query, the National Crime Information Center, and the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, pursuant to section 846-2.7 before any determination to register a firearm is made.....

No need to take the gun for registration.
But HPD website says seller is responsible to submit signed permit either in person or by mail within 48 hours of sale for handguns.

Doesn’t sound right.

No need to take the gun for registration.
But HPD website says seller is responsible to submit signed permit either in person or by mail within 48 hours of sale for handguns.

Doesn’t sound right.

What doesnt sound right?

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Hey Flapp is this for real?
It’s on the HPD website but I can’t find it anywhere in HRS.
Figured I’d check with your Google fu ability.
I was talking to my friend whose permitting and registering a gun from me and he said HPD says all kinds of crap (which we all know)
But they actually put this on their website.

Or anyone else who can verify. I couldn’t.

I can confirm

Long story short, I registered a pistol last month via precovid rules since the seller works at hpd. While registering, the dude behind the glass told me that the seller just needs to mail or in person drop off the permit with both signatures and I can register online. My friend was in plain clothes and he (officer behind the glass) didnt know my friend works at hpd. It was both news to us. But ehhhh, I killed 2 birds with 1 stone by just doing it in person. And it costed me 50 cents since I was lucky to find a meter that still had time on the clock lol. Pure luck on that part

What doesnt sound right?

The seller sending written notice of a Long Gun transfer serves the same purpose as the seller returning a signed Handgun permit.

Nothing sounds wrong.

See below post for this post.
I somehow modified instead of quoting myself.

I sold a number of firearms.
I may or may not have sent in the written notice.
In many cases, knew the guys who I sold to and knew they would submit signed permit and register.
It was always the onus of the buyer to submit the permit.
Difference between written notice and signed permit.
Now buyer can’t register until seller submits signed permit. Big difference. (Buyer can still present signed permit at time of registration if in person or buyer can send it registered mail and wait for HPD to receive it before trying to register online.  Then do you only have three days to register ? )
Do you let a buyer drive off with your firearm with no permit or registration as seller has the permit ? That does not sound right.
As a buyer, do you drive off with someone else’s firearm without a permit or registration as seller holds permit ? (Illegal?)
Technically can’t register online until seller submits signed permit and HPD receives it.
Can’t find this in the law though. Only per HPD website.

Every time you sold a handgun did you submit written notice to HPD via registered mail or drop it off ?
This refers to written notice, not the permit. The onus for written notice was always on the seller but the handgun could already be registered via buyer presenting signed permit.

P.S. edit: 
Thanks for first hand info Aaronc

Np. But if ya think bout it, its kinda like selling a long gun. Buyer has the permit (long gun permit) and you relinquish the firearm to the buyer and the seller just mails in a notice. And we TRUST the buyer to do his part when he already has the rifle in hand. I think pistol process is better cause atleast when they apply the first time, theres a paper trail that already has begun to "show" that the buyer is trying to acquire the pistol vs 1 and done for rifles. Atleast thats what i think.

With all that said, I wish it was 1 and done at the shop. But it is what it is lol

Good point.

Which brings us back to this:
Do you let a buyer drive off with your firearm with no permit or registration as seller has the permit ? (Illegal ?)
As a buyer, do you drive off with someone else’s firearm without a permit or registration as seller holds permit ? (Illegal?)

Seems like it’s just another made up HPD policy and it’s funky.
Seems easier to do it the old way. Can’t register online until permit received by HPD anyway.
For me. When I get my pistol permit I’m all excited and want the gun NOW.

Good point.

Which brings us back to this:
Do you let a buyer drive off with your firearm with no permit or registration as seller has the permit ? (Illegal ?)
As a buyer, do you drive off with someone else’s firearm without a permit or registration as seller holds permit ? (Illegal?)

Seems like it’s just another made up HPD policy and it’s funky.
Seems easier to do it the old way. Can’t register online until permit received by HPD anyway.
For me. When I get my pistol permit I’m all excited and want the gun NOW.

There is nothing in the law that states the buyer must keep a copy of their permit or registration.
There is nothing in the law that states the seller has to verify the buyer has a permit to acquire.  It's all on the purchaser.  Although good practice is to verify current PTA.
HPD is back logged anyways, so by the time you register online, they should receive the sellers paperwork.  Mrs. CMO got her registration confirmation from HPD 30 days after she did it online.  The firearm was purchased thru a FFL/LGS. 
Say they weren't backed logged, I highly doubt they will call or email you the next business day asking for the sellers paperwork, which they have 48hrs to turn in.

I guess as a buyer you still have a permit in the system even without the signed hard copy.
Kinda weird though.

30 days later. That’s nuts. HPD needs a tech person.
They could probably use a new typewriter too.