Smith and Wesson Sues Hawaii Attorney General (Read 6933 times)

changemyoil66

Re: Smith and Wesson Sues Hawaii Attorney General
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2022, 06:13:26 PM »
it's not that complicated:

1.  The state makes restrictive laws re: guns
2.  Anyone wanting to challenge these gun laws requires documentation that only the state can provide
3.  The state gives you an outrageous bill for providing said documents
4.  If there's no way to directly recoup the cost of that document request, it can discourage people who can barely afford a lawyer from bringing lawsuits pertaining to bad gun laws.

It's a financial firewall against lawsuits.  WHY S&W is requesting the documents should not enter into the inflated cost estimate for producing the information.  It should be the same for a high school social science project as it is for a gun manufacturer seeking the same data.

In today's electronic data world of miracles performed by computers, I find it unimaginable that they need lawyers charging $27K for information that is "publicly available."

Sounds pretty cut and dried to me.
Wait, how do u know all of this? Its like u read the article.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Smith and Wesson Sues Hawaii Attorney General
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2022, 08:52:07 PM »
Wait, how do u know all of this? Its like u read the article.

It's a knack.

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eyeeatingfish

Re: Smith and Wesson Sues Hawaii Attorney General
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2022, 10:29:34 PM »
it's not that complicated:

1.  The state makes restrictive laws re: guns
2.  Anyone wanting to challenge these gun laws requires documentation that only the state can provide
3.  The state gives you an outrageous bill for providing said documents
4.  If there's no way to directly recoup the cost of that document request, it can discourage people who can barely afford a lawyer from bringing lawsuits pertaining to bad gun laws.

It's a financial firewall against lawsuits.  WHY S&W is requesting the documents should not enter into the inflated cost estimate for producing the information.  It should be the same for a high school social science project as it is for a gun manufacturer seeking the same data.


Yeah, I get all that. I am curious what information they expect to find in the documents that will help them make some sort of case.

changemyoil66

Re: Smith and Wesson Sues Hawaii Attorney General
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2022, 09:19:19 AM »

Yeah, I get all that. I am curious what information they expect to find in the documents that will help them make some sort of case.

Who knows. Even HIFICO's FOIA request had about 1000 pages of which, 98% of them were redacted.  But what we did learn is that per the FBI, no one is enrolled in their RAPBACK system.  And for the 1000 pages, HIFICO paid for each one.