HK45 (Read 8463 times)

stangzilla

HK45
« on: June 01, 2022, 08:28:54 AM »






https://hk-usa.com/hk-models/hk45/



first time shooting this over the weekend.  shot 100 rounds.  first 5 rounds, FTE.  first 4 mags (only brought 3 mags but 1 mag ran it twice), failure to lock back on empty mag.  after that it ran fine for the rest of the ammo
its very accurate.  sights are good.   ergonomics are very good.  grip feels comfortable in my hands, not too big and not too small, my hands are medium-ish size, but i think if you have large hands it will still be a good fit bc its a large gun
recoil very manageable

now, my complaint is the trigger
I like the concept of DA/SA with de-cocker hammer fired. but its long and heavy in DA.  and SA theres a long take up.  I'll get actual pull weight on my Lyman gauge later
but I can get used to it.  I think for a carry gun its a very good trigger.  I guess I'm spoiled from shooting 1911's can't really compare the 2, but overall I like HK45 trigger for its function and able to carry in different modes

for a large size semiauto, I really like it.  I'm sold on HK.  If I see a P30 at a store, I would seriously consider it
this would make a good home defense gun, or open carry gun, or duty gun

macsak

Re: HK45
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2022, 08:41:24 AM »
i know someone that may or may not own 2 DA/SA HKs (both modified with lighter hammer springs and firing pin block springs)
when this individual may or may not have obtained an HK45, he/she/it had the trigger changed to light LEM (law enforcement modification)
if you have any knowledge of who this individual may or may not be, you might ask he/she/it to try it out

in case you are wondering, it is TOTALLY not me, since i own no firearms, nor ammunition

first time shooting this over the weekend.  shot 100 rounds.  first 5 rounds, FTE.  first 4 mags (only brought 3 mags but 1 mag ran it twice), failure to lock back on empty mag.  after that it ran fine for the rest of the ammo
its very accurate.  sights are good.   ergonomics are very good.  grip feels comfortable in my hands, not too big and not too small, my hands are medium-ish size, but i think if you have large hands it will still be a good fit bc its a large gun
recoil very manageable

now, my complaint is the trigger
I like the concept of DA/SA with de-cocker hammer fired. but its long and heavy in DA.  and SA theres a long take up.  I'll get actual pull weight on my Lyman gauge later
but I can get used to it.  I think for a carry gun its a very good trigger.  I guess I'm spoiled from shooting 1911's can't really compare the 2, but overall I like HK45 trigger for its function and able to carry in different modes

for a large size semiauto, I really like it.  I'm sold on HK.  If I see a P30 at a store, I would seriously consider it
this would make a good home defense gun, or open carry gun, or duty gun

changemyoil66

Re: HK45
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2022, 08:51:05 AM »
Hows the recoil diff between this and a 1911?

Like Mac said, there are LEM mod available. IIRC Greyguns is 1 who many go to, but I think you give up the safety lever. Mac can correct if wrong since he/she/they/it may or may not have 1/2.

drck1000

Re: HK45
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2022, 09:14:26 AM »
Good range report.  Hopefully those initial hiccups are all that you'll encounter. 

The P30 grip shape/style gets a lot of positive reviews.  I have the older USP frame HKs. 

On the DA/SA trigger, yeah, the DA is long and strong.  When would you envision coming across that?  When I used to carry my USP Compact, I used to carry it cocked and locked.  That was a LONG time ago though.

I need to find a job like you and CMO.  Being able to afford to shoot .45 ACP.  :oops:  ;D

stangzilla

Re: HK45
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2022, 09:36:51 AM »
Hows the recoil diff between this and a 1911?

Like Mac said, there are LEM mod available. IIRC Greyguns is 1 who many go to, but I think you give up the safety lever. Mac can correct if wrong since he/she/they/it may or may not have 1/2.

1911 recoil is less.  i think the 1911 is a little heavier.  but it's still not bad at all with the HK45
yeah, I saw the LEM triggers.  but I'll stick with the DA/SA for now.  its not terrible and it shoots pretty accurate, so I'm not in a rush to change it right now.  I'm sure with more trigger time, I'll get used to it more.  and the DA/SA trigger seems more simple to operate than the LEM one.  plus they only had the DA/SA trigger at the time

drck1000

Re: HK45
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2022, 10:10:01 AM »
My buddy used to have a HK P-2000 with LEM trigger as his service sidearm.  Beyond being a .40 S&W, I hated that gun.  I hated the trigger as well, but I think mostly because vast difference than say a SA or Glock trigger, which is what I was used to. 

I've seen folks use pistols with LEM in competition.  There's one that lurks on this board. . .

stangzilla

Re: HK45
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2022, 10:15:44 AM »


stangzilla

Re: HK45
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2022, 10:45:21 AM »
compared to my other polymer handguns, XDM in 45acp 4.5" barrel and G19 and Ruger American 45acp, I can shoot the HK45 more accurately and feels better in my hand than the  other guns
the HK45 feels like a more natural pointer than those other 2 guns, to me anyways
although that's not much guns to compare to the HK45


changemyoil66

Re: HK45
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2022, 10:47:18 AM »
Good range report.  Hopefully those initial hiccups are all that you'll encounter. 

The P30 grip shape/style gets a lot of positive reviews.  I have the older USP frame HKs. 

On the DA/SA trigger, yeah, the DA is long and strong.  When would you envision coming across that?  When I used to carry my USP Compact, I used to carry it cocked and locked.  That was a LONG time ago though.

I need to find a job like you and CMO.  Being able to afford to shoot .45 ACP.  :oops:  ;D

A good enough amount of people also said the same for the VP9 that had a break in period. Mine shot fine out of the box, no break in needed.  I wonder if this is just a HK thing.

IMO, im not a fan of the P30 style grips. It feels comfortable in the hands, but mine get sweaty and I like a more blocky and aggressive to the touch type of grip. Like the Glock style grips I like. Im able to keep the kungfu grip.  I even have grip tape on my VP9. This helps a little.

macsak

Re: HK45
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2022, 12:04:06 PM »
1911 recoil is less.  i think the 1911 is a little heavier.  but it's still not bad at all with the HK45
yeah, I saw the LEM triggers.  but I'll stick with the DA/SA for now.  its not terrible and it shoots pretty accurate, so I'm not in a rush to change it right now.  I'm sure with more trigger time, I'll get used to it more.  and the DA/SA trigger seems more simple to operate than the LEM one.  plus they only had the DA/SA trigger at the time

it's no more complex than a striker fired semi
one advantage it does have is that you can second strike if you desire

macsak

Re: HK45
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2022, 12:10:37 PM »
failure to lock back is commonly riding the slide stop by noobs

there are some that refer to the HK45 as the "german 1911"


first time shooting this over the weekend.  shot 100 rounds.  first 5 rounds, FTE.  first 4 mags (only brought 3 mags but 1 mag ran it twice), failure to lock back on empty mag.  after that it ran fine for the rest of the ammo
its very accurate.  sights are good.   ergonomics are very good.  grip feels comfortable in my hands, not too big and not too small, my hands are medium-ish size, but i think if you have large hands it will still be a good fit bc its a large gun
recoil very manageable

now, my complaint is the trigger
I like the concept of DA/SA with de-cocker hammer fired. but its long and heavy in DA.  and SA theres a long take up.  I'll get actual pull weight on my Lyman gauge later
but I can get used to it.  I think for a carry gun its a very good trigger.  I guess I'm spoiled from shooting 1911's can't really compare the 2, but overall I like HK45 trigger for its function and able to carry in different modes

for a large size semiauto, I really like it.  I'm sold on HK.  If I see a P30 at a store, I would seriously consider it
this would make a good home defense gun, or open carry gun, or duty gun

WTF?Shane

Re: HK45
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2022, 08:11:59 PM »
FTE? Limp wrist?

ren

Re: HK45
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2022, 10:20:37 PM »
there are some that refer to the HK45 as the "german 1911"

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drck1000

Re: HK45
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2022, 07:56:15 AM »
failure to lock back is commonly riding the slide stop by noobs

there are some that refer to the HK45 as the "german 1911"
or underpowered ammo. . .

"some" refer to it as "german 1911", et. . .  ???  :-X

changemyoil66

Re: HK45
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2022, 08:57:06 AM »
Just to be sure, let 1 of us here mag dump.

stangzilla

Re: HK45
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2022, 09:50:21 AM »
failure to lock back is commonly riding the slide stop by noobs

there are some that refer to the HK45 as the "german 1911"

nope, not riding the slide stop.  I made sure of that after the first FTE

FTE? Limp wrist?

nope, not limp wristing it

stangzilla

Re: HK45
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2022, 10:20:36 AM »
range report update:
took the HK45 out for a second shoot.   zero malfunctions.
maybe a break in period, or maybe it was bc I cleaned and lubed it right before I went to the range the first time and I could have left too much lube on there.  second shoot I made sure there was only a slight bit of lube
maybe that's it, or maybe was break in period.  either way, it's running fine now   :geekdanc:

drck1000

Re: HK45
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2022, 12:53:37 PM »
range report update:
took the HK45 out for a second shoot.   zero malfunctions.
maybe a break in period, or maybe it was bc I cleaned and lubed it right before I went to the range the first time and I could have left too much lube on there.  second shoot I made sure there was only a slight bit of lube
maybe that's it, or maybe was break in period.  either way, it's running fine now   :geekdanc:
Good deal.   :geekdanc:

I don't shoot much .45 acp.  In my two current .45 acp pistols, one is an M&P 45 and it had occasional FTF in the first 200-300 ish rounds.  I read that M&P 45 is a bit more notorious for a break in period, and more than the 9 and 40 versions of the M&P.  I started wondering if some of that was due to .45 acp ammo.  I was thinking shape of the bullet, but also maybe since the muzzle velocities were much lower than say 9 mm.  Therefore less energy, so exacerbated in a new .45 pistol with new springs, wear surfaces higher friction, etc.   

pewpewgoesthegun

Re: HK45
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2022, 08:29:10 PM »
now, my complaint is the trigger
I like the concept of DA/SA with de-cocker hammer fired. but its long and heavy in DA.  and SA theres a long take up.  I'll get actual pull weight on my Lyman gauge later
but I can get used to it.  I think for a carry gun its a very good trigger.  I guess I'm spoiled from shooting 1911's can't really compare the 2, but overall I like HK45 trigger for its function and able to carry in different modes

for a large size semiauto, I really like it.  I'm sold on HK.  If I see a P30 at a store, I would seriously consider it
this would make a good home defense gun, or open carry gun, or duty gun

Is the long SA take up an HK thing? Even the P30 has quite a bit of slack in SA.

The HK45 or 45C was next on my wish list, but I'm tempted to get a 22 first  :-\

macsak

Re: HK45
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2022, 08:38:37 PM »
affirmative

Is the long SA take up an HK thing? Even the P30 has quite a bit of slack in SA.

The HK45 or 45C was next on my wish list, but I'm tempted to get a 22 first  :-\