They'll prob make you write it. Lol

Yea no sh*t! 😂
If I don’t get it by tomorrow, then I’ll go to the station next week to try and get it.

I submitted an online registration on the 1st of June  and am still waiting.  I emailed them to follow up and they told me they were backed up.


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Ours took 6 weeks. Since we registered it, not my problem they are behind. We weren't worried.

Well that’s not good news. I just registered a firearm this past Tuesday. Guess I have to wait long too? I wonder if I can just pick it up at the station. Maybe they can pull it up from the computer and print it?

You aren't required by law to keep a copy of the registration.

You aren't required by law to keep a copy of the registration.

Is that your recommendation?

As messed up as HPD has reportedly been, it makes sense to get a copy -- just in case. 

The registration form also makes transfers easier for the in-state buyer should you sell your gun.

Is that your recommendation?

As messed up as HPD has reportedly been, it makes sense to get a copy -- just in case. 

The registration form also makes transfers easier for the in-state buyer should you sell your gun.

No.  It's what the law doesn't require.

No.  It's what the law doesn't require.

Hopefully the list of things not mandated by statute is much longer than things that are mandated.

i.e.  The law doesn't require that you follow basic gun safety rules.

I’m still gonna go down in person anyways to try get the registration papers. I’m needing it sooner for reasons.

The firearms unit is operating at ~half capacity due to officers out on sick leave or otherwise. There has also been a huge (COVID level) influx in permits to acquire (90-100+ per day, ~45 before all this anti-gun legislation talk in the news). The combination of the two is incredibly stressful.

Please have some consideration for the officers working the windows; they too are tired of the long lines and the lack of resources the unit is allocated. It’s not as easy as training a new hire/other officers; due to Hawaii laws, there’s a lot of intricacies with the processes, and training for the various positions at firearms takes multiple weeks. There is also a lot of liability associated with the unit; one wrong statement or action could cause a major lawsuit for the department/state.

The firearms unit has streamlined it the best they can with the current gun laws in Hawaii; quicker processes means easier/less work for the unit. Want an easier/quicker process? Lobby to change the laws in our state.

Mahalo for understanding.

The firearms unit is operating at ~half capacity due to officers out on sick leave or otherwise. There has also been a huge (COVID level) influx in permits to acquire (90-100+ per day, ~45 before all this anti-gun legislation talk in the news). The combination of the two is incredibly stressful.

Please have some consideration for the officers working the windows; they too are tired of the long lines and the lack of resources the unit is allocated. It’s not as easy as training a new hire/other officers; due to Hawaii laws, there’s a lot of intricacies with the processes, and training for the various positions at firearms takes multiple weeks. There is also a lot of liability associated with the unit; one wrong statement or action could cause a major lawsuit for the department/state.

The firearms unit has streamlined it the best they can with the current gun laws in Hawaii; quicker processes means easier/less work for the unit. Want an easier/quicker process? Lobby to change the laws in our state.

Mahalo for understanding.

No debate that the department can be overworked and understaffed.

But, when the state can't manage the bureaucracy it's created to restrict a Constitutional right, maybe they don't deserve sympathy or consideration.  After all, they have to follow the SAME LAWS we do.  If that means they issue permits on the 14th day having an incomplete background check, then that's what they have to do.  The NICS system is a 3-day adjudication process.  If they take longer, the request is automatically approved.  The consequences of being unable to meet their deadline lies with the FBI, not the individual buyer.

Not many are bashing the individual officers on here -- except for a few observations.  The problem is the law and the HPD policies and procedures.  You and I lobbying to change them will do nothing.  Until HPD throws up its hands and says, "This is more than we can handle," we'll continue to see more and more restrictions passed with no increase in resources.

We're paying for background checks at both the Federal and State level with our taxes and fees.  With so much overlap, I'm sure they can find ways to streamline without reducing "safety."

No debate that the department can be overworked and understaffed.

But, when the state can't manage the bureaucracy it's created to restrict a Constitutional right, maybe they don't deserve sympathy or consideration.  After all, they have to follow the SAME LAWS we do.  If that means they issue permits on the 14th day having an incomplete background check, then that's what they have to do.  The NICS system is a 3-day adjudication process.  If they take longer, the request is automatically approved.  The consequences of being unable to meet their deadline lies with the FBI, not the individual buyer.

Not many are bashing the individual officers on here -- except for a few observations.  The problem is the law and the HPD policies and procedures.  You and I lobbying to change them will do nothing.  Until HPD throws up its hands and says, "This is more than we can handle," we'll continue to see more and more restrictions passed with no increase in resources.

We're paying for background checks at both the Federal and State level with our taxes and fees.  With so much overlap, I'm sure they can find ways to streamline without reducing "safety."

HPD will never throw up it’s hands and admit defeat; it’s the unfortunate truth. Change comes from the top down; HPD will unfortunately only listen to lawmakers, not the individual gun owners and 2A practitioners. Spinning wheel of death/bureaucracy.

The firearms unit is operating at ~half capacity due to officers out on sick leave or otherwise. There has also been a huge (COVID level) influx in permits to acquire (90-100+ per day, ~45 before all this anti-gun legislation talk in the news). The combination of the two is incredibly stressful.

Please have some consideration for the officers working the windows; they too are tired of the long lines and the lack of resources the unit is allocated. It’s not as easy as training a new hire/other officers; due to Hawaii laws, there’s a lot of intricacies with the processes, and training for the various positions at firearms takes multiple weeks. There is also a lot of liability associated with the unit; one wrong statement or action could cause a major lawsuit for the department/state.

The firearms unit has streamlined it the best they can with the current gun laws in Hawaii; quicker processes means easier/less work for the unit. Want an easier/quicker process? Lobby to change the laws in our state.

Mahalo for understanding.

Understanding. Things are tough all around. I’ve had a couple of close friends who worked Firearms in the long line days of 2016-2018ish.

However, what does understaffing have to do with a simple common sense approach of having your forms filled out prior to coming to the window? DMV and other C&C services require that. There are many officers that do help facilitate, but many more seem to be willing to take a “ainokea” approach. Maybe it would help to have some accountability. Not bashing. Stating my observations and opinions.

Lobby for change? Most of us here do. Did you catch what Ige did recently?

I'm reminded of the discussion VP Biden had during the Sandy Hook gun control task force hearings.  One glaring topic was how overwhelmed and under-resourced state and federal agencies are when investigating and prosecuting firearm crimes.  The government was admitting they don't enforce the laws already on the books.  So, they asked the obvious question:  is passing more gun laws we can't enforce the solution?

That's basically where they left the debate.  No solutions offered, because the obvious answer would be to repeal existing laws that do nothing to stop violence.  The majority of the laws are administrative.  If you don't file a form, get reported for seeking behavioral health services regardless of the reason, or request someone else manage your social security income and expenses, you get your guns taken.  These are not the people we should be worrying about, but they happen to be the low-hanging fruit based on someone's "logic."

They need to stop making laws that punish everyone who didn't commit a crime whenever a lunatic opens fire in a school or theater.  That would be a great start.

got my registration by email last week friday.  it took 8 days from when I did the online registration to when I received it
I've been going in person to pick up PTA bc I don't trust that I'll get it by email in a timely manner.  and registering online bc I'm not really in a rush to get the registration.

Well whatta you know! I got my registration paper this morning. Exactly 5 business days from when they said it’ll take in confirmation process email. No need go down there today.

They need to streamline the process for current gun owners.  WTF is with the cooling period if I already own several guns?!  That's just BS!!

They need to streamline the process for current gun owners.  WTF is with the cooling period if I already own several guns?!  That's just BS!!

They like to say it's for "cooling off."  That's just how it was sold to the public decades ago.  In reality, it's an administrative delay to give whoever approves the transfer time to dig into your background.  Sometimes it takes much longer than the 3 days NICS is allowed to fully research someone. 

HI gets 2 weeks due to state law.  Now the Feds are pushing for the same 2 weeks, because government is incompetent.  If we gave them a month, all background checks would take at least that long -- whether it does or not.

There are cases of people applying for a permit being murdered while waiting for approval.  Of course, that's the fault of the applicant for following the law.   

on the 18th day waiting for my reg to be emailed

on the 18th day waiting for my reg to be emailed

Reg will be ruled unconstitutional later. No worries.

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WTF is with the cooling period if I already own several guns?!  That's just BS!!

Common sense and logic are not compatible with the liberal mental disorder.