Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry (Read 71171 times)

esk808

Re: Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry
« Reply #360 on: October 29, 2022, 03:34:02 PM »

Also picked up a Wilson Combat module. I really like the palm swells. Feels much more secure in the hand and pointable. I got the XL size. Was debating myself if should go with 365 or 365XL version. Liking the XL not much longer than the small.

Heavies,

Consider the WC tungsten rods which go into the grip module.
                    https://shopwilsoncombat.com/GRIP-WEIGHT-KIT-TUNGSTEN-WCP320-_-365-GRIP-MODULE/productinfo/NW734/

I got them, and it really settles down the pistol.  If CCW though, I might take out the rods for lightweight.

drck1000

Re: Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry
« Reply #361 on: October 30, 2022, 08:22:02 AM »
I did a 10yrd zero with this for shield plus and p365XL RDS's.

"Close enuff" until i can go to a range.

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"Expert" level. . . you're gtg then. . .  :P

drck1000

Re: Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry
« Reply #362 on: October 30, 2022, 08:27:50 AM »
Holosun 507k

SNIP

Nice! 

I've heard/read where some recommend contrasting the front sight color with the dot.  Say green dot and red front sight.  I have all red/red except for one pistol, where the P320 has a green night sight.  I have had the red/red setup for quite a while now and I never see the front sight.

Going back to cowitness, if you meant lower 1/3 protrusion of the sight into the window, check out Dawson Precision.  They have quite a few options on height.  Otherwise the lower 1/3 cowitness is different from rifles, since your head position relative to the optic is not fixed. 

changemyoil66

Re: Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry
« Reply #363 on: October 30, 2022, 09:37:23 AM »
Nice! 

I've heard/read where some recommend contrasting the front sight color with the dot.  Say green dot and red front sight.  I have all red/red except for one pistol, where the P320 has a green night sight.  I have had the red/red setup for quite a while now and I never see the front sight.

Going back to cowitness, if you meant lower 1/3 protrusion of the sight into the window, check out Dawson Precision.  They have quite a few options on height.  Otherwise the lower 1/3 cowitness is different from rifles, since your head position relative to the optic is not fixed.
Instead of buying a new front sight, would coloring it be an option? I mean it is a backup anyways.

White nail polish?

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drck1000

Re: Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry
« Reply #364 on: October 30, 2022, 09:44:54 AM »
Instead of buying a new front sight, would coloring it be an option? I mean it is a backup anyways.

White nail polish?

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I guess.  Most of my iron sights are FO, so easy to switch colors.  The sights on my P309 are night sights.  I don't even notice them when shooting with the RDS.  If were to bother me?  Nail polish is a decent option.  I have that on a couple of 1911s that came with plain front sight.  Used orange on those. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry
« Reply #365 on: October 30, 2022, 12:14:07 PM »
It was a very big deal when S&W started installing "Red Ramp"/White Outline sights.  The sight picture was much easier and quicker to align than the standard black on black sights.  It was very common for gun owners to put a small white dot on the front sight, since that's the sight you need to focus on.

With the advent of different styles and materials of sights, it's now possible to have both glowing night sights and bright FO sights at the same time.  The colors have become an individual choice.  There's no optimal color or combination that's perfect for everyone.

You should get the combination of colors based on which ones tend to attract your eye.  If red gets your focus first, make that the front sight color.  If white, orange or green catches your eye first, use that one.  Make the rear sight more visible than just plain black but less prominent than the front.

Sometimes when you have red front and green rear sights, your brain has to stop and think about which color is which.  Making the sights on all your guns the same color combo reduces variations, and thus the delay in recognition.

So, obviously the benefits of contrasting colors on sights has been around for many decades.  I had these exact sights on my S&W 586 in 1985.

« Last Edit: October 30, 2022, 12:36:07 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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changemyoil66

Re: Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry
« Reply #366 on: October 30, 2022, 03:35:48 PM »
I guess.  Most of my iron sights are FO, so easy to switch colors.  The sights on my P309 are night sights.  I don't even notice them when shooting with the RDS.  If were to bother me?  Nail polish is a decent option.  I have that on a couple of 1911s that came with plain front sight.  Used orange on those.
When i got my vp9 with night sights (white phos dots), i used a sharpie to black out the rear.

Then i overpaid on trijicon tridium. Cause with my WML on, i cannot see any tridium, just black front post and rear notch.

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drck1000

Re: Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry
« Reply #367 on: October 30, 2022, 03:41:51 PM »
When i got my vp9 with night sights (white phos dots), i used a sharpie to black out the rear.

Then i overpaid on trijicon tridium. Cause with my WML on, i cannot see any tridium, just black front post and rear notch.

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I prefer blacked out rear. Typically serrated, but not critical.

There’s another thread somewhere here on no/low light. Might be in the fiber optic thread. That said, RDS pistols changes things.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry
« Reply #368 on: October 30, 2022, 06:17:20 PM »
I've benn "upgrading" my pistols as I feel the urge with these:

https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/EC9C75CC-6F75-4D9A-BEE2-BE6DBE19B01C?ingress=2&visitId=fb8d082e-d3a8-4a43-ab24-c7f83cb2f06d&ref_=ast_bln

You can usually pick from a variety of colors, too.  The Amazon listing for the Glock sights offer Rear/Front combos Green/Green or Yellow Green. 

https://www.truglo.com/tfo/

I do like them better than the night site only types.  I find those a little hard to see in bright light.

YMMV
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

stangzilla

Re: Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry
« Reply #369 on: October 30, 2022, 06:45:34 PM »
Holosun 507k




That's the circle/dot reticle
Pic is taken up close so the reticle is much smaller than when you are shooting with elbows straight
When shooting arms outstretched, the reticle is larger so picks up your focus primarily vs the iron sights
My g19 has red dot with trijicon green night sights and dot acquisition feels about the same to me, although the tritium on the g19 is smaller dot than the sig. Not a big deal to me. Plus I just like the green dot better

stangzilla

Re: Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry
« Reply #370 on: October 31, 2022, 08:42:27 AM »
Hellcat with Swampfox Sentinel green dot
Co witness is low in the window. Maybe doesn't distract your vision as much from the dot. But a little harder to see the iron sights when its really low vs suppressor sights, but its not bad, good for backup irons
This optic has the footprint of the Shield RMSc or Holosun 507k. Its under $200 with discount code. Either auto adjustment RDS or manual, mine is manual. I prefer manual. Still has shake awake, but can shut off if you like


stangzilla

Re: Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry
« Reply #371 on: October 31, 2022, 08:51:06 AM »



I really like these Truglo TFXpro sights
Rear is green tritium, front is green tritium with FO orange. I do like the contrast
This is on my Ruger American pistol. There's no optic cut, but at least I upgraded the iron sights from the factory 3 dot. Much better now

changemyoil66

Re: Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry
« Reply #372 on: October 31, 2022, 08:57:45 AM »
I notice when I draw either pistols that have the RDS on them, I am slightly high as my POA.  So I just break my wrist down very slightly and the dot comes into view.  Guess my natural POA is with the irons on the VP9 (6 years worth).

It only takes a fraction of a second to find the dot if I'm not perfect. Some times the dot is in view, but not often enough like how the irons are aligned. 

But some times too, the irons are not aligned, so RDS/irons same same.  It's not like I'm hunting for the dot which I've seen a handful of shooters do in skill builders.

What I want to practice later is what to do if the dot is not on.  How much time will I spend hunting before I just use irons.  For my AR, I've had the battery die a few times where it's automatic to either use existing points of reference for close shots, or pop up the back up sights for longer or more precise shots.  I know where my AR RDS sits when aiming.

stangzilla

Re: Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry
« Reply #373 on: November 04, 2022, 10:26:53 AM »
It was a very big deal when S&W started installing "Red Ramp"/White Outline sights.  The sight picture was much easier and quicker to align than the standard black on black sights.  It was very common for gun owners to put a small white dot on the front sight, since that's the sight you need to focus on.

With the advent of different styles and materials of sights, it's now possible to have both glowing night sights and bright FO sights at the same time.  The colors have become an individual choice.  There's no optimal color or combination that's perfect for everyone.

You should get the combination of colors based on which ones tend to attract your eye.  If red gets your focus first, make that the front sight color.  If white, orange or green catches your eye first, use that one.  Make the rear sight more visible than just plain black but less prominent than the front.

Sometimes when you have red front and green rear sights, your brain has to stop and think about which color is which.  Making the sights on all your guns the same color combo reduces variations, and thus the delay in recognition.

So, obviously the benefits of contrasting colors on sights has been around for many decades.  I had these exact sights on my S&W 586 in 1985.



I have a few revolvers with the red ramp front sight.  its better than just all black.  I switched out some of the front sights to  FO and some to a tritium night sight with white outline. and some I just left with the red ramp

Ruger Redhawk


S&W 629


Colt Cobra with tritium front sight and white outline
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drck1000

Re: Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry
« Reply #374 on: November 05, 2022, 10:09:32 PM »
Got the 43x back with laser stippling and trigger guard work. Texture feels better than the stock frame, and similar to the stippling on my Gucci 19s. The texture is a decent level of texture. I wasn’t sure how coarse the laser stippling would be, but initial impression is its a good level of grip. Will see how it shoots though. Thinking of having work done on an older 17 frame if this one works out well.

changemyoil66

Re: Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry
« Reply #375 on: November 09, 2022, 09:50:26 AM »
Update from DPP Titanium (RDS plate)

They haven't sent me the "updated" plate to try yet.  They were having some measurement issues. I think it's because the paint they use add extra thickness to the post slots. There is 1 YT'er who mentioned he had to remove the paint for the plate to fit.  It's a very tight fit that's why. Others had to hammer it in.

I looked at their G43X and Hellcat plates and they seem to be the same footprint as the Shield Plus. The main diff is that diff screws will need to be used.

I told DPP this and they are sending me the plate with screws to try.  They're based in China so they asked if I had a caliper to send them the cut measurements. But I told them that's above my pay grade.  They don't own these types of pistols in China, which makes sense why they cannot measure themselves.

The reason why I rather have the DPP plate vs CHWPS is because DPP has post for the optic to fit into. CWHPS just makes a flat fitting, so all the impact from recoil will be on the 2 screws holding the optic on. 

Mrs.CMO's P365XL has raised screw post which will absorb the recoil, so it's not a true "flat" fitting.

The same issue was with the V1 Walther PDP, which now they have V2 that have raised post.  Walther claims the flat fit will absorb recoil on the screws fine. But guess enough people complained that they updated to raised post.

https://www.amazon.com/DPP-Titanium-Adapter-Hellcat-Holosun/dp/B09G9VVYLB?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1

https://chpws.com/product/sw-mp-shield-plus-to-holosun-407k-507k/

drck1000

Re: Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry
« Reply #376 on: November 09, 2022, 10:20:43 AM »
Update from DPP Titanium (RDS plate)

They haven't sent me the "updated" plate to try yet.  They were having some measurement issues. I think it's because the paint they use add extra thickness to the post slots. There is 1 YT'er who mentioned he had to remove the paint for the plate to fit.  It's a very tight fit that's why. Others had to hammer it in.

I looked at their G43X and Hellcat plates and they seem to be the same footprint as the Shield Plus. The main diff is that diff screws will need to be used.

I told DPP this and they are sending me the plate with screws to try.  They're based in China so they asked if I had a caliper to send them the cut measurements. But I told them that's above my pay grade.  They don't own these types of pistols in China, which makes sense why they cannot measure themselves.

The reason why I rather have the DPP plate vs CHWPS is because DPP has post for the optic to fit into. CWHPS just makes a flat fitting, so all the impact from recoil will be on the 2 screws holding the optic on. 

Mrs.CMO's P365XL has raised screw post which will absorb the recoil, so it's not a true "flat" fitting.

The same issue was with the V1 Walther PDP, which now they have V2 that have raised post.  Walther claims the flat fit will absorb recoil on the screws fine. But guess enough people complained that they updated to raised post.

SNIP
I have a spare caliber if you need.  Not my Mitutoyo quality one, but I've tested and they are "pretty good". 

changemyoil66

Re: Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry
« Reply #377 on: November 09, 2022, 11:20:27 AM »
I have a spare caliber if you need.  Not my Mitutoyo quality one, but I've tested and they are "pretty good".
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drck1000

Re: Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry
« Reply #378 on: November 09, 2022, 12:15:36 PM »
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macsak

Re: Premature, but what gun would you carry if HI allows CCW/Open carry
« Reply #379 on: November 09, 2022, 12:24:53 PM »
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