CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU) (Read 17724 times)

WTF?Shane

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2022, 08:26:39 PM »
5. Pick up permit with $10 per permit once we can do so

Why do you need $10?

nickelzismoney

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2022, 08:29:15 PM »
Why do you need $10?

Because that’s the provision for CCW license. $10 made payable to the County Treasury. That’s how much each permit will cost. It’s all online in HRS 134.
“No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how hard you fall… you are never out of the fight.” - Marcus Luttrel

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." - Albert Einstein

WTF?Shane

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2022, 08:32:48 PM »
Because that’s the provision for CCW license. $10 made payable to the County Treasury. That’s how much each permit will cost. It’s all online in HRS 134.

I haven't looked that far into it yet. Thank for the info.

nickelzismoney

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2022, 08:38:16 PM »
I haven't looked that far into it yet. Thank for the info.

Would STRONGLY suggest downloading and reading the firearm laws here. Just because we are going to get CCW permits soon, does not mean that there will be no regulations, in fact, there will be and it is okay per SCOTUS, but there are limitations that have to be in accordance with text, history, and tradition.

It is the full legal responsibility of each gun owner (especially CCW holders) to know what the laws are, be familiar with them, and stay current on them because they can change just as quickly as they can be proposed and/ or signed into law. You can google it or download straight from HPD website. Read them and learn them, because if you don’t you’ll have no excuse when your ignorance is brought into question god forbid something ever occur.

“No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how hard you fall… you are never out of the fight.” - Marcus Luttrel

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." - Albert Einstein

Rhed

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2022, 09:38:17 PM »
I know I ask this before. But wanted to make sure. Question for reasons for wanting ccw license? Do I still need to answer this in writing? Or n/a is sufficient? I’m gonna apply as I already have all my required documents.

nickelzismoney

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2022, 09:40:14 PM »
I know I ask this before. But wanted to make sure. Question for reasons for wanting ccw license? Do I still need to answer this in writing? Or n/a is sufficient? I’m gonna apply as I already have all my required documents.

I would go ahead and just put one. Whatever you want chiefs are allowed to ask for a reason, you just don’t have to show “an exceptional need” for one. I’d put one anyway just to be thorough
“No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how hard you fall… you are never out of the fight.” - Marcus Luttrel

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." - Albert Einstein

stangzilla

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2022, 10:30:29 AM »
if we fill out all forms, check all the boxes that Hawaii has made in accordance to their own laws and provisions, and there is nothing that would disqualify us from issuing a permit, and the reason part is no longer enforceable, then the counties have no choice but to issue the permits
why are they not issuing the permits?  ???

nickelzismoney

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2022, 10:56:16 AM »
if we fill out all forms, check all the boxes that Hawaii has made in accordance to their own laws and provisions, and there is nothing that would disqualify us from issuing a permit, and the reason part is no longer enforceable, then the counties have no choice but to issue the permits
why are they not issuing the permits?  ???

Democrats 😑 Joe Logan said they will start issuing permits at the end of August
“No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how hard you fall… you are never out of the fight.” - Marcus Luttrel

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." - Albert Einstein

changemyoil66

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2022, 11:57:30 AM »
if we fill out all forms, check all the boxes that Hawaii has made in accordance to their own laws and provisions, and there is nothing that would disqualify us from issuing a permit, and the reason part is no longer enforceable, then the counties have no choice but to issue the permits
why are they not issuing the permits?  ???

The AG is probably looking up to see what they can get away with without getting sued by HIFICO.

WTF?Shane

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2022, 01:00:09 PM »
Would STRONGLY suggest downloading and reading the firearm laws here. Just because we are going to get CCW permits soon, does not mean that there will be no regulations, in fact, there will be and it is okay per SCOTUS, but there are limitations that have to be in accordance with text, history, and tradition.

It is the full legal responsibility of each gun owner (especially CCW holders) to know what the laws are, be familiar with them, and stay current on them because they can change just as quickly as they can be proposed and/ or signed into law. You can google it or download straight from HPD website. Read them and learn them, because if you don’t you’ll have no excuse when your ignorance is brought into question god forbid something ever occur.

Thanks.  :shaka:

QUIETShooter

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2022, 01:15:55 PM »
Hawaii is slow in everything when it comes to government.  Because when it comes to serving the people, they take their time.

When it comes to serving themselves, it's warp speed.

if we fill out all forms, check all the boxes that Hawaii has made in accordance to their own laws and provisions, and there is nothing that would disqualify us from issuing a permit, and the reason part is no longer enforceable, then the counties have no choice but to issue the permits
why are they not issuing the permits?  ???
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

changemyoil66

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2022, 01:23:17 PM »
Hawaii is slow in everything when it comes to government.  Because when it comes to serving the people, they take their time.

When it comes to serving themselves, it's warp speed.

Like how NY had their new CCW bill, it passed all that it needed to and their governor signed it.  That's warp speed. Which getting rights back works just as fast.

Surfsker

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2022, 05:17:01 PM »
Was chatting with my brother today about applying for a CCW, he hasn’t purchased anything since rapback started to avoid being enrolled. He already has register handguns from 10+ years ago though, will applying for just the CCW (with no new/other permits to acquire) enroll him in rapback? Just wondering.
Aloha

nickelzismoney

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2022, 05:21:26 PM »
Was chatting with my brother today about applying for a CCW, he hasn’t purchased anything since rapback started to avoid being enrolled. He already has register handguns from 10+ years ago though, will applying for just the CCW (with no new/other permits to acquire) enroll him in rapback? Just wondering.
Aloha
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good question. If his firearms are already registered, I don’t see why it matters aside from the FBI getting his info.  HPD site mentions the $44 and some off cents fee to pay (if you haven’t paid it yet - which is also the RapBack fee)  when applying for the license, so I would assume yes because they do a background check for the permit too via the modified PTA forms

Can’t answer for sure, so I’d call HPD with that hypothetical question and see what they say because nothing illegal is occurring and they can’t force you to disclose who’s asking. Worth finding out because Hawaii already has his personal and firearm info

Would be a stupid reason to not carry for me, but perhaps we share different opinions given his reg is already done

“No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how hard you fall… you are never out of the fight.” - Marcus Luttrel

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." - Albert Einstein

changemyoil66

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2022, 09:23:37 PM »
Was chatting with my brother today about applying for a CCW, he hasn’t purchased anything since rapback started to avoid being enrolled. He already has register handguns from 10+ years ago though, will applying for just the CCW (with no new/other permits to acquire) enroll him in rapback? Just wondering.
Aloha
[/quote

good question. If his firearms are already registered, I don’t see why it matters aside from the FBI getting his info.  HPD site mentions the $44 and some off cents fee to pay (if you haven’t paid it yet - which is also the RapBack fee)  when applying for the license, so I would assume yes because they do a background check for the permit too via the modified PTA forms

Can’t answer for sure, so I’d call HPD with that hypothetical question and see what they say because nothing illegal is occurring and they can’t force you to disclose who’s asking. Worth finding out because Hawaii already has his personal and firearm info

Would be a stupid reason to not carry for me, but perhaps we share different opinions given his reg is already done
When i applied, they looked up my paid rapback date and wrote that on the app and stamped "paid" on it. They did the same for mrs.cmo's app as well.

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London808

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2022, 10:41:13 PM »
Rapback can not be used for CCW. The law only allows it for permits to acquire and registration.
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

10mmBestmm

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2022, 12:58:55 AM »
I applied along with gf for ccw on Monday and they noticed she never had "rapback" done, so had to pay her "rapback" fee (and subsequent fingerprints) in order to complete her submission. They were very thorough in making sure we had everything in order.

One thing I didn't do was complete/turn in the last page of the ccw app because we thought a reason would not be needed due to the AG's recent letter saying chief's of police should no longer deny ccw requests unless we can demonstrate a special need. They looked over our completed app and didn't question that the last page wasn't completed (we ended up keeping the first page which had the checklist of items required, turned in the second page and kept the third or last page).

I noticed what Mr London808 said about writing something in on the last page of the ccw app but I read his post after submitting. Hopefully it's not a problem.

Also khon2 news had Chief Logan report to the commission that the current tally of ccw apps is now over 140. Effectively double the initial 77 that has been reported. He also stated the he is still working with the other county chief's in establishing a standardized ccw approval process.
"I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop." - Some guy on Youtube

groveler

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2022, 09:25:35 PM »
I applied along with gf for ccw on Monday and they noticed she never had "rapback" done, so had to pay her "rapback" fee (and subsequent fingerprints) in order to complete her submission. They were very thorough in making sure we had everything in order.

One thing I didn't do was complete/turn in the last page of the ccw app because we thought a reason would not be needed due to the AG's recent letter saying chief's of police should no longer deny ccw requests unless we can demonstrate a special need. They looked over our completed app and didn't question that the last page wasn't completed (we ended up keeping the first page which had the checklist of items required, turned in the second page and kept the third or last page).

I noticed what Mr London808 said about writing something in on the last page of the ccw app but I read his post after submitting. Hopefully it's not a problem.

Also khon2 news had Chief Logan report to the commission that the current tally of ccw apps is now over 140. Effectively double the initial 77 that has been reported. He also stated the he is still working with the other county chief's in establishing a standardized ccw approval process.
"Also khon2 news had Chief Logan report to the commission that the current tally of ccw apps is now over 140. Effectively double the initial 77 that has been reported. He also stated the he is still working with the other county chief's in establishing a standardized ccw approval process."
I didn't think that was a requirement for exercising a right.
These police are beyond stupid.
 >:D

10mmBestmm

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2022, 12:04:43 AM »
I was really hoping to not incur an additional 40 plus dollars on the "rapback" fee.for my gf since we were not applying for a pistol or rifle permit that day. Just the CCW. Also, no heads up on their website nor signs posted, while waiting in line, requiring us to fill out the Permit to Aquire application and the two medical forms (thereby forcing us to pay the rapback boondoggle while only starting to fill out the PTA app and med forms when we get to the counter). Lines would move faster if people were better informed.by HPD. I guess this is by design. I hate wasting my time and my dwindling resources.
"I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop." - Some guy on Youtube

QUIETShooter

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2022, 06:42:30 AM »
In Hawaii, the Demokrat regime has ruled for so long that all government officials, no matter what autonomy they hold over their departments and authorizations to impose directives, have been conditioned to always check with their boss.

The county chiefs are afraid of stepping on the toes that put them in their position.  So therefore they will check with them first to make sure it's "ok".

Th Constitution of the United States is not as powerful as their bosses, in their sad, demokrat brainwashed minds.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.