Armed witness kills Gunman (Read 12573 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2022, 10:37:56 AM »
The GOOD SAMARITAN broke no laws.

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Furthermore, a private business may choose to prohibit weapons via signage.
Although it is not technically illegal to carry in these places, you could possibly
end up facing an arrest or trespass charge for disregarding the business owner’s
wishes.
https://www.eskewlaw.com/indiana-concealed-carry-law/

So, I'm wondering if the mall owners are "so woke" they are willing to cast a shadow over this mass saving event and trespass the 22 year old from their property?

If they do, I hope the mall's patrons take their business elsewhere.

#GetWokeGoBroke
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2022, 10:51:03 AM »
Did you guys read the article ?

Cops say he was legally carrying.

Statement from Mall:
 From the article posted:

“ But despite the man's apparent lack of regard for mall rules, his actions were also praised by Greenwood Park Mall representatives.

"We grieve for the victims of yesterday’s horrific tragedy in Greenwood. Violence has no place in this or any other community. We are grateful for the strong response of the first responders, including the heroic actions of the Good Samaritan who stopped the suspect," a mall spokesperson said.”

It was those every town against guns organizations that were condemning him having a gun against mall rules.

Wonder if the mall will change their policy to “so long as we don’t see.”
« Last Edit: July 18, 2022, 10:56:32 AM by aieahound »

aieahound

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2022, 11:10:36 AM »
Good article. Looks like Good Samaritan is a bad ass hero.

“ Dicken confronted the gunman, who was trying to retreat back into the restroom, Ison said, firing 10 rounds from a handgun he was licensed to carry.

“He engaged the gunman from quite a distance with a handgun,” Ison said, adding that Dicken is “very proficient” and “tactically sound,” despite having no known police or military training.”

https://news.yahoo.com/greenwood-park-mall-armed-bystander-good-samaritan-shot-killed-suspect-194450562.html

And another one :

https://news.yahoo.com/indiana-mall-shooter-frequented-gun-183809490.html
« Last Edit: July 18, 2022, 11:32:32 AM by aieahound »

QUIETShooter

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2022, 11:33:04 AM »
Good article. Looks like Good Samaritan is a bad ass hero.

“ Dicken confronted the gunman, who was trying to retreat back into the restroom, Ison said, firing 10 rounds from a handgun he was licensed to carry.

“He engaged the gunman from quite a distance with a handgun,” Ison said, adding that Dicken is “very proficient” and “tactically sound,” despite having no known police or military training.”

https://news.yahoo.com/greenwood-park-mall-armed-bystander-good-samaritan-shot-killed-suspect-194450562.html

The guy trained. And he trained very well.  Good for him.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

QUIETShooter

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2022, 11:38:41 AM »
Did you guys read the article ?

Cops say he was legally carrying.

It was those every town against guns organizations that were condemning him having a gun against mall rules.


These organizations have no desire to look at events objectively.  I wonder what their statement would've been if one of their members had a loved one in a mass killer's gun sights and a good samaritan took the bad guy out.

Would they have condemned him?  I really wonder.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

bass monkey

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2022, 01:56:01 PM »
it gets worse
https://www.foxnews.com/us/gun-control-advocates-stunned-man-allegedly-shot-indiana-mall-shooter-labeled-good-samaritan

Critics are lashing out after a man carrying a pistol stopped a mass shooting at an Indiana shopping mall, arguing the man should not be called a "Good Samaritan."

"The term, ‘Good Samaritan’ came from a Bible passage of a man from Samaria who stopped on the side of the road to help a man who was injured and ignored," wrote CBS4 traffic anchor Justin Kollar on Twitter Monday. "I cannot believe we live in a world where the term can equally apply to someone killing someone… my God."

But some critics joined Kollar in criticizing the man's actions despite him allegedly putting a stop to the mass shooting.

"The Good Samaritan paid for an unknown immigrant's health care out of pocket," comedian John Fugelsang wrote on Twitter. "The Good Samaritan did not shoot anyone. Jesus was not a fan of killing for any reason, including self-defense. But if these ammosexuals had ever read the Bible, they couldn't support the GOP or NRA."

"I don’t know who needs to hear this but when a 22-year-old illegally brings a loaded gun into a mall and kills a mass shooter armed with an AR-15 after he already killed three people and wounded others is not a ringing endorsement of our implementation of the Second Amendment," Moms Demand Action Founder Shannon Watts said on Twitter.



Suddenly they know scriptures & are trying to quote the Bible, although they removed God from everything

changemyoil66

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2022, 01:59:33 PM »
Did you guys read the article ?

Cops say he was legally carrying.

Statement from Mall:
 From the article posted:

“ But despite the man's apparent lack of regard for mall rules, his actions were also praised by Greenwood Park Mall representatives.

"We grieve for the victims of yesterday’s horrific tragedy in Greenwood. Violence has no place in this or any other community. We are grateful for the strong response of the first responders, including the heroic actions of the Good Samaritan who stopped the suspect," a mall spokesperson said.”

It was those every town against guns organizations that were condemning him having a gun against mall rules.

Wonder if the mall will change their policy to “so long as we don’t see.”

ET should be blamed for the gun free zone stuff.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2022, 02:41:08 PM »

Suddenly they know scriptures & are trying to quote the Bible, although they removed God from everything

I bet everyone complaining about misappropriating "Good Samaritan" takes the Lord's name in vain more than once on a daily basis!

Cry me a river.  Nothing tastes better than a Liberal's tears when ^^THIS is all they can find to complain about!
« Last Edit: July 18, 2022, 04:35:12 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

6716J

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2022, 04:02:17 PM »
Hawaii needs this but you think it would ever happen?

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ren

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2022, 05:13:37 PM »
Hawaii needs this but you think it would ever happen?

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Nope. The media will paint the criminal as a "good person" who: a) made bad choices b) hung around wrong people c) needed help from the govt
Then we'll hear how bad the law-abiding citizen is. He/She didn't need to shoot the person armed with an <insert evil gun> they should've shot person in the leg or shoot the gun out of the hand.
Deeds Not Words

ren

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2022, 05:27:25 PM »
gets even bettah!  :crazy: :rofl: :crazy:

https://www.khon2.com/news/national/how-often-does-a-good-guy-with-a-gun-end-an-attack/

Andrew pointed out that even with Dicken’s rapid response, three people were killed, emphasizing that the best prevention strategy is one that stops bad guys from getting a gun in the first place.

One major issue that is flawed in those statistics is that not every State allows its citizens to carry so they have no other choice but to call LE for an armed response.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2022, 05:32:47 PM by ren »
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2022, 06:36:00 PM »
gets even bettah!  :crazy: :rofl: :crazy:

https://www.khon2.com/news/national/how-often-does-a-good-guy-with-a-gun-end-an-attack/

Andrew pointed out that even with Dicken’s rapid response, three people were killed, emphasizing that the best prevention strategy is one that stops bad guys from getting a gun in the first place.

One major issue that is flawed in those statistics is that not every State allows its citizens to carry so they have no other choice but to call LE for an armed response.

Yes, and if we could un- invent firearms and destroy every single one on the planet, people would still find ways to commit mass murder.  Trucks filled with chemicals, bombs made in crockpots, IEDs, a moving vehicle down a crowded street of pedestrians, nerve agent, .... the list goes on.  Making it HARDER for someone to kill dozens at a time doesn't PREVENT it from happening.

Sometimes all it takes is a well placed fire in a building with no easy exit/chained exits.  Are we banning fire next?

Back to reality.  Guns are here to stay.  They need to stop focusing on the means and start looking at actually stopping the threat AFTER the murderer has decided to kill.  Anything else is wishful thinking.

How many other failed "wars" does the US have to create for people to get a clue?  We've had a war on drugs for decades.  A war on crime in certain cities.  There's a war on poverty.  There has been a war on obesity.  So many others, I can't even remember.

How have those efforts been at PREVENTING anything?  I'd say they all have gotten better and worse over time, no thanks to government.  Often the problems are tied to the economy or other factors not caused by the government.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2022, 01:37:25 PM »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

London808

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2022, 01:47:04 PM »
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

nickelzismoney

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2022, 01:56:19 PM »


 Beautiful. Well-trained, well-prepared, and ready to act without regard of his own safety until threat was eliminated. That is an amazing standard if he’s able to recreate. Give this young man a medal. Even out of the mud can come a good piece of press and reality, toward the attitude of guns and hopefully toward the realization of how “safe” society really is without guns around. If it isn’t directly against the law, then fuck “no firearms policy” — ignore it.

I would rather live with being perma-banned from some dumb ass mall then have to live with knowing if anything ever popped off, I couldn’t do anything for anyone and that would eat at me; not always our responsibility, but definitely is when you can analyze the situation and see you have room, time, and an opportunity for action to keep others safe.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2022, 02:02:10 PM by nickelzismoney »
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2022, 07:18:44 PM »
Imagine if it were Kyle Rittenhouse lol.
Good on this guy though, glad he was there and survived

aieahound

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2022, 07:37:13 PM »
Just think Luby’s (Texas)
If she’d only had her gun that was in the car….

“ Hupp was thirty-two years old at the time of the shooting.[5] As a survivor of the massacre, she testified across the country in support of concealed-handgun laws. Hupp said that had there been a second chance to prevent the slaughter, she would have violated the Texas state law and carried the handgun inside her purse into the restaurant that day. Had she done so, she may not have lost her parents. She also stated in her testimony that she would have taken a felony charge against her, rather than losing her parents through the tragedy, adding that those shouldn't be the choices, however, and that people should be able to defend themselves in an emergency without having to choose one over another.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzanna_Hupp

ren

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2022, 07:43:36 PM »
the Good Samaritan deserves to be recognized by the White House. Instead....
https://patriotalerts.com/2022/07/biden-awarding-america-hating-soccer-player-prez-medal-of-freedom%ef%bf%bc/
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bass monkey

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2022, 09:04:22 PM »
Sad part is one of the deceased was also carrying at the time.
Life is full of unpredictable twisted& turns. 

Rhed

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2022, 10:48:08 AM »
Another one..  :shaka: