Which Democrat? (Read 4755 times)

hvybarrels

Re: Which Democrat?
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2022, 08:13:58 PM »
I don't play the tactical voting game. If you vote as a Democrat they use it to justify their mandate, plus in good conscience I cannot support anyone who was down with lockdowns and mandates.

If that means we get a space lizard then that's who we fight. No half measures.

I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

ren

Deeds Not Words

QUIETShooter

Re: Which Democrat?
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2022, 06:06:11 AM »
https://www.kitv.com/news/local/1-on-1-interview-with-hawaii-gubernatorial-candidate-bj-penn/article_c57c1b92-0a53-11ed-a194-af31aed43605.html

He got my vote.  :thumbsup:

He might be a bit unpolished on the edges but his heart and concerns are genuine.

And he is right: both Kahele and Green, who has been slinging mud at each other, are just carbon copies of each other.  Why Hawaii's voters cannot see that they both come out of the same corruption mold that has imprisoned Hawaii for so long is beyond me.

It seems this is an opportunity for Hawaii to move in a new direction.  The super debate shows the swamp in the democratic governor front leaders.  Vicky to me is dead on the water.  She's not going anywhere.

The super debate shows that there can be a respectful and cordial debate as portrayed by the republican front runners.  The start of a new beginning for Hawaii can possibly lie in these 3 candidates. 

Problem is, will Hawaii voters take that leap of faith.  Lot of them are just mindless followers of the same political machine that are making their lives miserable.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

ren

Re: Which Democrat?
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2022, 08:07:20 AM »
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/07/23/liar-slum-lord-mud-slinging-gubernatorial-debate-stage-leaves-voters-with-new-questions/

HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) - During Thursday’s gubernatorial Super Debate, Congressman Kai Kahele accused Lt. Gov. Josh Green of profiting from the pandemic while Green attacked Kahele as a “slum lord.”

“You have three sources of income, lieutenant governor. Private physician and this mystery LLC called Green Health International through which you received $600,000 in income during the last three years,” Kahele said.

“Is the reason, lieutenant governor, why you didn’t tell us the sources of income last week that you don’t want to the public to know how you have personally benefited from those sources while serving as lieutenant governor?”


I wonder how much Ige made
Deeds Not Words

groveler

Re: Which Democrat?
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2022, 08:23:52 AM »
He might be a bit unpolished on the edges but his heart and concerns are genuine.

And he is right: both Kahele and Green, who has been slinging mud at each other, are just carbon copies of each other.  Why Hawaii's voters cannot see that they both come out of the same corruption mold that has imprisoned Hawaii for so long is beyond me.

It seems this is an opportunity for Hawaii to move in a new direction.  The super debate shows the swamp in the democratic governor front leaders.  Vicky to me is dead on the water.  She's not going anywhere.

The super debate shows that there can be a respectful and cordial debate as portrayed by the republican front runners.  The start of a new beginning for Hawaii can possibly lie in these 3 candidates. 

Problem is, will Hawaii voters take that leap of faith.  Lot of them are just mindless followers of the same political machine that are making their lives miserable.
"Problem is, will Hawaii voters take that leap of faith.  Lot of them are just mindless followers of the same political machine that are making their lives miserable."
No, they won't.
The largest employer in the state is government. Government employees vote for their best interests. Most other Hawaii citizens are so disgusted with the choices, they don't bother
to vote. Hawaii is years ahead of the mainland in being a third world shithole Banana Republic.
It will not change.  Too many voters like the status quo.  Where are our concealed carry licenses and why aren't the police chiefs being sued or charged with Federal
crimes?  Status quo.
 :grrr:

QUIETShooter

Re: Which Democrat?
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2022, 08:25:32 AM »
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/07/23/liar-slum-lord-mud-slinging-gubernatorial-debate-stage-leaves-voters-with-new-questions/

HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) - During Thursday’s gubernatorial Super Debate, Congressman Kai Kahele accused Lt. Gov. Josh Green of profiting from the pandemic while Green attacked Kahele as a “slum lord.”

“You have three sources of income, lieutenant governor. Private physician and this mystery LLC called Green Health International through which you received $600,000 in income during the last three years,” Kahele said.

“Is the reason, lieutenant governor, why you didn’t tell us the sources of income last week that you don’t want to the public to know how you have personally benefited from those sources while serving as lieutenant governor?”


I wonder how much Ige made

In the biden scandal they always say "10% for the big guy".

Since Ige is a manini man I would say "10% for the little green frog"  The kermit slush fund.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

gotblika

Re: Which Democrat?
« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2022, 09:05:35 AM »

ren

Re: Which Democrat?
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2022, 08:53:05 PM »
http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/32844/Picking-apart-the-50-fee

Doctors are not all smart....

For the readers’ benefit, here is what Green said,

    GREEN: A recommendation, and I put up a 10-point plan on climate change to have a climate impact fee, which would be $50 for every individual that travels to the State of Hawaii over age 12. This can generate between $350 to 400 million dollars per year, and that will be the mechanism we use to pay for the roads that are falling into the water, to pay for moving hotels back, though those investors should pay for it themselves, in partnership with the state for state resources. This is the way to also to shrink over tourism because we have too many people simply coming to Hawaii.

Kahele countered Green with this response,

    KAHELE: (asked by the moderator what would be the policy as governor) I need to address what the Lt. Governor said because he said now three times this “climate impact fee” he talks about. We aren’t even sure that it’s constitutional, whether it violates the US Constitution to levy a climate impact fee against a tourist that comes to Hawaii. That does not help to reduce tourism, that just continues to tax the tourist already coming here. That is not going to dis-incentivize tourists coming here. So I think that this is something we need to address.

Unconstitutional he says? Green comes back with the only answer that he could try to give, to counter. That set up a back and forth that even a campaign manager would be facepalming if they were managing Green’s campaign,

    GREEN (in response to Kahele) It is constitutional, it’s also being done in countries across the world, Europe just started it as well….
    KAHELE (in response to Green) We are not Europe
    GREEN: Yeah, I am aware of who we are, Congressman, we are Hawaii, and I also spoke to the President of Palau…
    KAHELE We are not Palau

Deeds Not Words

QUIETShooter

Re: Which Democrat?
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2022, 08:08:36 AM »
Our current leaders in Hawaii forget that we as a State are part of the United States.  We are supposed to abide by the Constitution.

It seems to me that when these asshats took the oath of office, while they were raising their right hand and reciting the oath they were actually thinking "Yeah, yeah, whatever......hurry up already......"

In my opinion I want Green to lose in the primary.  I'm also hoping for a Republican governor.  This is a possibility with Hawaii voters wanting a change of direction and this can happen with Green out of the picture, and Hawaii voters realizing that Kahele is not a public servant but more self-serving than anything else.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Which Democrat?
« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2022, 09:00:55 AM »
Our current leaders in Hawaii forget that we as a State are part of the United States.  We are supposed to abide by the Constitution.

It seems to me that when these asshats took the oath of office, while they were raising their right hand and reciting the oath they were actually thinking "Yeah, yeah, whatever......hurry up already......"

In my opinion I want Green to lose in the primary.  I'm also hoping for a Republican governor.  This is a possibility with Hawaii voters wanting a change of direction and this can happen with Green out of the picture, and Hawaii voters realizing that Kahele is not a public servant but more self-serving than anything else.

There's also a State Constitution, which closely aligns with the US Constitution -- including the right to keep and bear arms.

Believing the state was annexed illegally doesn't relieve anyone here of the duty to follow the law unless and until that law is changed.  What if everyone chose to ignore all the laws they don't agree with?  Paying taxes, registering cars and even violent crimes would go unpunished in deference to the allegedly illegal occupation of Hawaii.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

robtmc

Re: Which Democrat?
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2022, 10:31:03 AM »
Hawaii really does need a change in direction.  Will the populace have the courage to do so?
No.Too stupid.

groveler

Re: Which Democrat?
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2022, 10:31:43 AM »
There's also a State Constitution, which closely aligns with the US Constitution -- including the right to keep and bear arms.

Believing the state was annexed illegally doesn't relieve anyone here of the duty to follow the law unless and until that law is changed.  What if everyone chose to ignore all the laws they don't agree with?  Paying taxes, registering cars and even violent crimes would go unpunished in deference to the allegedly illegal occupation of Hawaii.
"What if everyone chose to ignore all the laws they don't agree with?"
I generally ignore any law I don't agree with.  Really!
I've never been convicted of any crime.  I have had to pay for violations of a civil nature
AKA speeding tickets,  two in fifty years of driving.
A smart criminal knows how .to be a criminal and get away with it.
Stupid ones get caught.
There are too many stupid laws.
Do not comply.
That is all.
 :geekdanc:

drck1000

Re: Which Democrat?
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2022, 10:34:54 AM »
Which Democrat?

I like or would endorse any Democrat that groveler would. . .  :thumbsup:

changemyoil66

Re: Which Democrat?
« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2022, 11:55:03 AM »

There are too many stupid laws.
Do not comply.
That is all.
 :geekdanc:

Except for HI's topless law.

robtmc

Re: Which Democrat?
« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2022, 01:10:47 PM »
Except for HI's topless law.
Fortuanely we have (I think) decency laws for when Pelousy, Opra, or Rosie o
Dunuts visits.

Think of the children!