NICE!  What pistol are you going to put it on?

I've had mine for a while, but still haven't shot it. Might try to shoot it this weekend, but where I will be shooting at isn't set up well for shooting on paper.  But looking forward to shooting the 43x with the EPS Carry. 

The stock on Brownells still had some this morning, with only the red 2 MOA out. 

Currently I only have one pistol cut for optic. G48.  It’s sporting a 407k red 6Moa right now.  I was planning on getting my carry gun Kahr CM9 cut for it. No rush though, since our hopes of carrying anytime soon are being dashed by our leftist COP which is currently crapping all over his oath of office.

I was contemplating picking up a 365X to put it on, but not really a huge fan of SIGs I’ve shot 365 before, but don’t like the triggers on SIGs  and can shoot the Kahr, which is the same size as a 365, much much better than the sig.


I’m no fan of Glocks either. I’ve dumped way too much into this G48 trying to get it to jive with me. So far it’s been so so. It’s tolerable. Lol

Currently I only have one pistol cut for optic. G48.  It’s sporting a 407k red 6Moa right now.  I was planning on getting my carry gun Kahr CM9 cut for it. No rush though, since our hopes of carrying anytime soon are being dashed by our leftist COP which is currently crapping all over his oath of office.

I was contemplating picking up a 365X to put it on, but not really a huge fan of SIGs I’ve shot 365 before, but don’t like the triggers on SIGs  and can shoot the Kahr, which is the same size as a 365, much much better than the sig.

I’m no fan of Glocks either. I’ve dumped way too much into this G48 trying to get it to jive with me. So far it’s been so so. It’s tolerable. Lol

Ahh, gotcha.  You can always try my 43x.  I hope to have an EPS Carry on my 48 soon.  If that takes long, I might try a 507/407k on the 48. 

I only have limited experience with the 365s as well. 

I am very much a Glock fan, but through my experiences with the 17 and 19.  The triggers on the 43x and 48 are very different, both in pull feel and shape of the trigger face.  Don't know if good or bad yet, but I'm already planning trying aftermarket triggers.  Overwatch and Apex being two I'm currently looking at.  I want to try the stock triggers first, but at least for now, like you I would consider them tolerable. 

Shot my 43x with EPS Carry over the weekend.  Overall impressed with the EPS Carry.  It's a good fit/scale for the gun and no issues on smaller size of optic body.  I think the "tunnel" can be helpful to some on finding the dot.  I read about and watched videos on some projected/opinion benefits of enclosed emitter optics.  I don't have trouble finding the dot, but can see how the tube form of the optic body can help.  I shot in a variety of lighting conditions, including quite bright.  I had the dot set quite low for dry fire indoors and was surprised that I had to go about 5-6 steps up on brightness for outdoors.  Seems like the EPS Carry levels are finer than my previous RMRs.  Just something I noticed, not good or bad.

I did an initial "zero" of the dot based on the factory irons and it seemed pretty close at 10 and 15 yards.  I need to spend a little more time verifying zero, but it was pretty good. 

Different topic, but quite impressed with the 43x and EPS Carry combo.  Grouping at 10-15 yards slow fire smaller than tangerine (using CMO's metric), and "quicker" draw and follow up shots in the smaller than fuji apple tp cantaloupe range.  Definitely planning on more time shooting the 43x a lot in the next many months, including how the trigger "works in". 

I'm a fan of the EPS so far.  Looking to put one on one of my Glock 17s or 19s. 

Shot my 43x with EPS Carry over the weekend.  Overall impressed with the EPS Carry.  It's a good fit/scale for the gun and no issues on smaller size of optic body.  I think the "tunnel" can be helpful to some on finding the dot.  I read about and watched videos on some projected/opinion benefits of enclosed emitter optics.  I don't have trouble finding the dot, but can see how the tube form of the optic body can help.  I shot in a variety of lighting conditions, including quite bright.  I had the dot set quite low for dry fire indoors and was surprised that I had to go about 5-6 steps up on brightness for outdoors.  Seems like the EPS Carry levels are finer than my previous RMRs.  Just something I noticed, not good or bad.

I did an initial "zero" of the dot based on the factory irons and it seemed pretty close at 10 and 15 yards.  I need to spend a little more time verifying zero, but it was pretty good. 

Different topic, but quite impressed with the 43x and EPS Carry combo.  Grouping at 10-15 yards slow fire smaller than tangerine (using CMO's metric), and "quicker" draw and follow up shots in the smaller than fuji apple tp cantaloupe range.  Definitely planning on more time shooting the 43x a lot in the next many months, including how the trigger "works in". 

I'm a fan of the EPS so far.  Looking to put one on one of my Glock 17s or 19s.

When you zero'd did you do off a rest or Jedi style and not supported?  I'm leaning toward on a rest because my skills are not at his level where I can shoot accurately enough to free zero.  At least by using a rest, I know it's me and not the gun. I would prob be chasing zero at 10 yards. I also plan to zero at 10.

  Tangerine at 15 is AWESOME. you would be able to pass any CCW or armored car test as that would be all 10's.

Warrior poet mentioned in a vid that he knows what dial to use when he goes from outdoors to indoors and vice versa. He just presses the buttons thru his shirt (doesn't un-holster)

I think it was this thread where we were talking about the green dot. David from DCT mentioned that green tends to wash away when using a flash light or WML. So red it is. The 507K did not arrive yesterday.

1) When you zero'd did you do off a rest or Jedi style and not supported?  I'm leaning toward on a rest because my skills are not at his level where I can shoot accurately enough to free zero.  At least by using a rest, I know it's me and not the gun. I would prob be chasing zero at 10 yards. I also plan to zero at 10.

2) Tangerine at 15 is AWESOME. you would be able to pass any CCW or armored car test as that would be all 10's.

3) Warrior poet mentioned in a vid that he knows what dial to use when he goes from outdoors to indoors and vice versa. He just presses the buttons thru his shirt (doesn't un-holster)

4) I think it was this thread where we were talking about the green dot. David from DCT mentioned that green tends to wash away when using a flash light or WML. So red it is. The 507K did not arrive yesterday.

1) Standing, free hand.  I did initial "zero" by matching the RDS to the sights, assuming the sights were on, and they were close.  I didn't make any adjustments when I shot this past weekend.  I did notice the grouping was slightly off when I moved back to 15 yards, but didn't adjust. I typically do initial zero on a rest and I will verify eventually. 

2) I was shooting the 8" Shoot-n-See, which is similar to the NRA B16.  That was VERY slow/deliberate fire though. 

https://www.amazon.com/Birchwood-Casey-Shoot-N-C-Target-Pasters/dp/B0002IKBKE

3) Yeah.  There are others that mention that, as well as pros/cons of other dots like the DeltaPoint which has a cycling RDS intensity.  I am a$$uming that the RMR had a coarser adjustment range.  Will do a side-by-side.

4) Nah, you should try the green. . . so I can try too. . . 

3) Yeah.  There are others that mention that, as well as pros/cons of other dots like the DeltaPoint which has a cycling RDS intensity.  I am a$$uming that the RMR had a coarser adjustment range.  Will do a side-by-side.

IIRC WP mentioned 1 or 2 button presses to get his indoors brightness on his RMR.

IIRC WP mentioned 1 or 2 button presses to get his indoors brightness on his RMR.

For me, low light to "bright daylight" is 2 presses on the RMR. 

For me, low light to "bright daylight" is 2 presses on the RMR.

LMK what it's like on the EPS Carry. Would be interested to know that and the 507K would be the same amount of presses.

LMK what it's like on the EPS Carry. Would be interested to know that and the 507K would be the same amount of presses.

IIRC, it was about 4-5 steps from when I shot outdoors over the weekend and when I did some dry fire indoors.  Prob could get away with less though.  I recall the dot intensity when I got home was damn bright indoors and "not great" lighting. 

Kind of off topic, but is there a reason why every company makes their own footprint. I mean, there's Mlok and Keymod, which of the 2 Mlok is more abundant. Then there's picatiny rail, which is pretty much universal. So why all the various footprints?

Kind of off topic, but is there a reason why every company makes their own footprint. I mean, there's Mlok and Keymod, which of the 2 Mlok is more abundant. Then there's picatiny rail, which is pretty much universal. So why all the various footprints?

Designs and manufacturing processes evolve over time.

AR-15 RAIL SYSTEMS COMPARISON

M-Lok is pretty much the standard as far as attaching accessories to your AR-15 rail system.
M-Lok stands for “Modular Lock” and was invented by Magpul, who licenses the system to any
company that requests to use it, ensuring that everything made with M-Lok has the same design
and quality. To attach an accessory to an M-Lok rail system, simply slide the t-shaped nut into
the slot, turn to tighten, and as you tighten it, the nut lays across the slot, locking the attachment
down.

As stated above, USSOCOM has recently released data showing the M-Lok System to be
better for impacts, so you will feel as secure as your accessories trusting this system.

https://www.80percentarms.com/blog/ar15-rail-systems-comparison/

Kind of off topic, but is there a reason why every company makes their own footprint. I mean, there's Mlok and Keymod, which of the 2 Mlok is more abundant. Then there's picatiny rail, which is pretty much universal. So why all the various footprints?

From what I've been told, read, etc a big part of the problem and solution has to do with the battery, which includes balance of battery size/type and battery life.  Plus balance of optic window, height, etc with the item being mounted on.  I also personally believe some companies purposely decide to be different, for various reasons.  Some apparently strategic and some just to be different and attempting to control certain aspects. 

Prevalence of market share/demand as well as who/what wins popularity race.  Sort of like VHS vs Betamax and other technology along the way.  Which team has best marketing and/or political connections.  Platform prevalence isn't necessarily what is the best/advanced. 

I think the "tunnel" can be helpful to some on finding the dot.  I read about and watched videos on some projected/opinion benefits of enclosed emitter optics.  I don't have trouble finding the dot, but can see how the tube form of the optic body can help.

Going back and forth between a RMR on 19 and EPS Carry on 48 MOS, I also noticed the optic body helps to acquire the dot faster.

Shot my 43x with EPS Carry over the weekend.  Overall impressed with the EPS Carry.  It's a good fit/scale for the gun and no issues on smaller size of optic body.  I think the "tunnel" can be helpful to some on finding the dot.  I read about and watched videos on some projected/opinion benefits of enclosed emitter optics.  I don't have trouble finding the dot, but can see how the tube form of the optic body can help.  I shot in a variety of lighting conditions, including quite bright.  I had the dot set quite low for dry fire indoors and was surprised that I had to go about 5-6 steps up on brightness for outdoors.  Seems like the EPS Carry levels are finer than my previous RMRs.  Just something I noticed, not good or bad.

I did an initial "zero" of the dot based on the factory irons and it seemed pretty close at 10 and 15 yards.  I need to spend a little more time verifying zero, but it was pretty good. 

Different topic, but quite impressed with the 43x and EPS Carry combo.  Grouping at 10-15 yards slow fire smaller than tangerine (using CMO's metric), and "quicker" draw and follow up shots in the smaller than fuji apple tp cantaloupe range.  Definitely planning on more time shooting the 43x a lot in the next many months, including how the trigger "works in". 

I'm a fan of the EPS so far.  Looking to put one on one of my Glock 17s or 19s.

Where did you go to shoot? Also bought a 43x and haven't had a chance to shoot it yet

Going back and forth between a RMR on 19 and EPS Carry on 48 MOS, I also noticed the optic body helps to acquire the dot faster.

We have similar tastes in firearms.  Mainly shoot 19 with RMR, which will very likely have an EPS Carry on it soon. 

Where did you go to shoot? Also bought a 43x and haven't had a chance to shoot it yet

A private range.  Check out open shoot opportunities in the action bays.  As well as 808Gun Club, but be prepared to pay quite a bit.   

Shot another 50 rounds with the 43x with EPS.  Had to re-zero after the last range session because I noticed that one of the mounting screws moved.  I cleaned the screws, reapplied loctite and tightened back down with a little more torque with the supplied L-shaped allen key.  The slide milling only allows for the use of the screws that they supplied.  Different size and threading from the screws that came with the EPS.  Think all good, just can't use torque limiters and bits that I have on hand.  If the screws slip again, I will use 242 instead of 222. 

Let some friends shoot the 43x with EPS.  A couple noted the smaller window, but after shooting, most said they didn't notice difference.  Smaller window allows for less space for the dot tracking vertically, but there are ways to mitigate/address/help with that. 

Not EPS related, but the smaller frame of the 43x is a little more of a "hassle" when shooting in hot & humid conditions and hands are sweaty.  My Glock 19s are stipped and that helps a lot and I've gotten used to that texture.  Something I'll have to keep trying.  Tempted to shoot a USPSA match with the 43x and EPS.  True carry optic configuration. 

Brownells has EPS back in stock.  Various options of regular and carry, as well as 6 moa and 2 moa green.  Plus code for $40 off $400 (and a lower total one). 

Not sure if we mentioned here, but another contender to the Aimpoint ACRO P2 would be the Steiner MPS. I'm probably looking into that for my next optic ready handgun purchase.

Not sure if we mentioned here, but another contender to the Aimpoint ACRO P2 would be the Steiner MPS. I'm probably looking into that for my next optic ready handgun purchase.

What gun?