Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations (Read 29075 times)

changemyoil66

Re: Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations
« Reply #120 on: March 02, 2023, 09:45:44 AM »
After CCWing since early Jan everyday, I get the lint issue now. 

raudi

Re: Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations
« Reply #121 on: March 02, 2023, 10:24:05 AM »
After CCWing since early Jan everyday, I get the lint issue now.

clean your belly button more!

changemyoil66

Re: Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations
« Reply #122 on: March 02, 2023, 10:37:28 AM »
clean your belly button more!

RDS is a lint magnet. Instead of the belly button, going in there now. So guess that's a pro of having an open RDS.

drck1000

Re: Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations
« Reply #123 on: March 27, 2023, 08:26:02 AM »
Shot the 17 with the ACRO P2 this past weekend.  I had the complete gun setup for over a month, but things just didn't align until this past weekend.  Zeroed the dot and shot about 200 rounds.  New gun with a recommendation for 200 rounds with the barrel that came with it.  Flawless operation and decent results.  Took me a bit longer than usual to zero the gun, but mostly due to some brain farts of moving windage when I thought I was adjusting elevations and vice versa.  First impressions are I like the window of the ACRO P2, with a little more space vertically than the RM06.  The size of the optic body didn't bother me, and it actually helps in some ways over the RM06.  Will see how the mount (builder included CHPWS plate) holds up, but I don't expect any issues.  Will be using this gun in a class end of May where the round count is in the 800-1000 round estimates. 

The slide for a different 17 came back this past weekend too.  I had that one milled for the Holosun EPS (K footprint).  I wasn't able to shoot it, but mounted the RDS and installed Dawson FO sights.  The optic cut milling was excellent.  I would say perfect it with no slop front/back.  In fact, the optic body took some light tapping with a hammer to seat well and once seated, the optic is not easy to move/remove.  Good indicator that the contact between the optic body and the slide is solid, and connection not fully dependent on the mounting screws. 

The slide window of the EPS is smaller than the ACRO P2, but I think sufficient.  I had been shooting the EPS Carry on a 43x.  While the EPS Carry is much smaller than the RM06 that I had gotten used to over the past many years.  The EPS is slightly larger than the EPS Carry and I think good proportions to the full sized slide of the 17. 

macsak

Re: Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations
« Reply #124 on: March 27, 2023, 08:53:29 AM »
tfti

Shot the 17 with the ACRO P2 this past weekend. I had the complete gun setup for over a month, but things just didn't align until this past weekend.  Zeroed the dot and shot about 200 rounds.  New gun with a recommendation for 200 rounds with the barrel that came with it.  Flawless operation and decent results.  Took me a bit longer than usual to zero the gun, but mostly due to some brain farts of moving windage when I thought I was adjusting elevations and vice versa.  First impressions are I like the window of the ACRO P2, with a little more space vertically than the RM06.  The size of the optic body didn't bother me, and it actually helps in some ways over the RM06.  Will see how the mount (builder included CHPWS plate) holds up, but I don't expect any issues.  Will be using this gun in a class end of May where the round count is in the 800-1000 round estimates. 

The slide for a different 17 came back this past weekend too.  I had that one milled for the Holosun EPS (K footprint).  I wasn't able to shoot it, but mounted the RDS and installed Dawson FO sights.  The optic cut milling was excellent.  I would say perfect it with no slop front/back.  In fact, the optic body took some light tapping with a hammer to seat well and once seated, the optic is not easy to move/remove.  Good indicator that the contact between the optic body and the slide is solid, and connection not fully dependent on the mounting screws. 

The slide window of the EPS is smaller than the ACRO P2, but I think sufficient.  I had been shooting the EPS Carry on a 43x.  While the EPS Carry is much smaller than the RM06 that I had gotten used to over the past many years.  The EPS is slightly larger than the EPS Carry and I think good proportions to the full sized slide of the 17.

changemyoil66

Re: Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations
« Reply #125 on: March 27, 2023, 09:24:23 AM »
Pics>?

I've noticed I have to clean the glass area about once every 3 weeks. B4 strapping up, I always check to make sure dot is working.  This is when I also do the lint check.

drck1000

Re: Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations
« Reply #126 on: March 27, 2023, 09:26:23 AM »
tfti
Front a case of 9 mm, then you'll be added to the list. . .  ;)

drck1000

Re: Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations
« Reply #127 on: March 27, 2023, 09:30:55 AM »
Pics>?

I've noticed I have to clean the glass area about once every 3 weeks. B4 strapping up, I always check to make sure dot is working.  This is when I also do the lint check.
Can.  I'll get around to it.  Wanted to shoot both and verify setups, at least initial checks. 

I did notice that the front lens of the ACRO collected oil splatter.  I don't usually run my Glocks wet, but the break in instructions for the barrel from the builder was to apply oil liberally.  Will see how things go as I transition to normal cleaning and lube process.  I've never had that happen before.  Didn't bother me or block anything, but assumed it was because the body of the ACRO has the lens closer to the ejection port than all my previous pistols with RDS, which all have RM06. 

The setup with the EPS is planned/envisioned for regular CCW.  Haven't noticed linting with 43x and EPS Carry.

macsak

Re: Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations
« Reply #128 on: March 27, 2023, 09:49:16 AM »
i own no ammo...

Front a case of 9 mm, then you'll be added to the list. . .  ;)

changemyoil66

Re: Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations
« Reply #129 on: March 27, 2023, 09:50:05 AM »


I did notice that the front lens of the ACRO collected oil splatter.  I don't usually run my Glocks wet, but the break in instructions for the barrel from the builder was to apply oil liberally.  Will see how things go as I transition to normal cleaning and lube process.  I've never had that happen before.  Didn't bother me or block anything, but assumed it was because the body of the ACRO has the lens closer to the ejection port than all my previous pistols with RDS, which all have RM06. 



This is a good training experience.  And to have it happen unexpectedly is valuable.  TBH, I like when unexpected stuff happens, this way it's your natural response on how to fix the issue.  Of course, after you leanr how to do it property first.  Which is why I don't like 1R1 drills.  Because I know it's gonna go empty.  So when I do drills to practice this type of thing, I mix mags with 1rd-5 rds in them.  Too pake to do 1-10rds.

changemyoil66

Re: Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations
« Reply #130 on: March 27, 2023, 09:50:46 AM »
i own no ammo...

If you tase yourself, I'll front the case.  As it would be illegal for anyone else to tase you, even in a training scenerio.

drck1000

Re: Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations
« Reply #131 on: March 27, 2023, 10:40:43 AM »
This is a good training experience.  And to have it happen unexpectedly is valuable.  TBH, I like when unexpected stuff happens, this way it's your natural response on how to fix the issue.  Of course, after you leanr how to do it property first.  Which is why I don't like 1R1 drills.  Because I know it's gonna go empty.  So when I do drills to practice this type of thing, I mix mags with 1rd-5 rds in them.  Too pake to do 1-10rds.
Something I noticed, but not a big deal.  Didn't obscure vision and probably wouldn't have really noticed except I was refining the zero on the dot since I started close and wanted to verify further. 

The 1-reload-1 has specific utility, but you're working on specific or different skills.  That said, the random occurrence of stuff like reload, malfunctions, etc with someone setting up your mags definitely is useful. 

changemyoil66

Re: Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations
« Reply #132 on: March 27, 2023, 10:42:50 AM »
I'm going to assume your G17 with ACRO is your  bed stand gun and your EPS G43X would be CCW?

drck1000

Re: Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations
« Reply #133 on: March 27, 2023, 11:11:15 AM »
I'm going to assume your G17 with ACRO is your  bed stand gun and your EPS G43X would be CCW?
Will see after I have more time with the 17s with ACRO and EPS.  However, the plan when I bought both were 17 and EPS combo being main CCW.  Though my qualification (and subsequent affidavit) was done with a 19 and RM06 and 43x with EPS Carry. 

drck1000

Re: Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations
« Reply #134 on: April 10, 2023, 09:53:53 AM »
Current main RDS setups

drck1000

Re: Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations
« Reply #135 on: April 10, 2023, 10:04:36 AM »
Left: Glock 17.5 with EPS.  Slide milled for EPS by Thrash Tactical and grip laser stippled by Cerakote Hawaii. 

Middle: Glock 19 Utility from Salient with RMR06. 

Right: Glock 17.5 with ACRO P2.  Standard MOS slide with CHPWS plate.  Grip work by Boresight Solutions.

I have about 300 rounds through both 17.5s with enclosed emitters.  Really liking both setups.  I was concerned that the texture on the Boresight Solutions grip would be too aggressive for CCW, but seems fine.  They'll take down the texture for free if I wanted, but for now, I'm fine.  The window of the ACRO is a bit taller than the EPS, but I think both are fine.  No malfunctions with either gun.  The ACRO is quite a bit more bulky and heavier than the EPS, but don't notice any ill effects.  Did rapid fire up to 6 shots and didn't notice a significant difference between the two in terms of slide reciprocation, dot movement in the window, etc. 

When I started planning for these setups, the one with the EPS was envisioned as replacing the 19 Utility for CCW.  Now I am considering either 17.5 for CCW, just maybe with a TLR-7 vice X300. 

Will be taking all of these to a pistol course end of May.  So want to put a bunch more rounds through them before then.  So far, loving both 17.5 setups. 

changemyoil66

Re: Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations
« Reply #136 on: April 10, 2023, 10:17:38 AM »
Left: Glock 17.5 with EPS.  Slide milled for EPS by Thrash Tactical and grip laser stippled by Cerakote Hawaii. 

Middle: Glock 19 Utility from Salient with RMR06. 

Right: Glock 17.5 with ACRO P2.  Standard MOS slide with CHPWS plate.  Grip work by Boresight Solutions.

I have about 300 rounds through both 17.5s with enclosed emitters.  Really liking both setups.  I was concerned that the texture on the Boresight Solutions grip would be too aggressive for CCW, but seems fine.  They'll take down the texture for free if I wanted, but for now, I'm fine.  The window of the ACRO is a bit taller than the EPS, but I think both are fine.  No malfunctions with either gun.  The ACRO is quite a bit more bulky and heavier than the EPS, but don't notice any ill effects.  Did rapid fire up to 6 shots and didn't notice a significant difference between the two in terms of slide reciprocation, dot movement in the window, etc. 

When I started planning for these setups, the one with the EPS was envisioned as replacing the 19 Utility for CCW.  Now I am considering either 17.5 for CCW, just maybe with a TLR-7 vice X300. 

Will be taking all of these to a pistol course end of May.  So want to put a bunch more rounds through them before then.  So far, loving both 17.5 setups.

I found that the middle one grip is similar to my Shield Plus.  Good for sweaty hands, but sticks to dry fit type shirt material. So I have athletic tape on the palm side so prevent this.  Need to change the tape every few weeks as it comes off or turns from white to brown (kusai).

Since you chose the grip texture, does it not bother or affect you that all 3 have diff grips?  I mean, no matchy matchy OCD?

drck1000

Re: Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations
« Reply #137 on: April 10, 2023, 10:46:10 AM »
I found that the middle one grip is similar to my Shield Plus.  Good for sweaty hands, but sticks to dry fit type shirt material. So I have athletic tape on the palm side so prevent this.  Need to change the tape every few weeks as it comes off or turns from white to brown (kusai).

Since you chose the grip texture, does it not bother or affect you that all 3 have diff grips?  I mean, no matchy matchy OCD?
The middle one (Glock 19) is a pretty fine and shallow stipple.  It doesn't stick or catch on t-shirt material.  All are a little "catchy" on dry fit type material, but not binding. 

No, the different textures don't bother me.  I have found that I like at least some texture, beyond what is on the Glock Gen 4 and Gen 5.  I shot plain Gen 4 grips for a long time and I think they are fine.  I now prefer the texture to go all around the grip which is how all the guns are stippled.  The Gen 3 through 5 grips have different textures on the sides vs the front and back.  I mean that's fine, but prefer more texture.  The Boresight Solutions also has their "razorback" for the back of the grip.  I haven't shot the 17.5s side-by-side, but I haven't noticed that I like one more than the other.  I do like the razorback shape though.  Seems to help fill out the palm portion of the firing hand a bit better. 

As for "matchy matchy", the one thing I want to consolidate are the triggers.  They all have different triggers.  The 17.5 Boresight has an Apex kit, but hand fitted from the builder.  The 17.5 with EPS has a Johnny Glock trigger.  I don't know which I like better yet.  Eventually, I will probably put the same trigger in both guns, once I decide which one I like better. 

All of the grips have the trigger guard undercut and textured.  That's another feature that I've found that I really like.  Again, I don't think it's essential as I think the stock grips are just fine.  However, I like the undercut and texture way more. 

drck1000

Re: Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations
« Reply #138 on: May 09, 2023, 09:28:20 AM »
About 500 rounds through both of the 17.5 with ACRO and EPS and quite impressed with both setups.  No malfunctions (not expected) and recent tweaks with grip and presentation seems to be paying off.  Attending a shooting course on the mainland in a couple of weeks, so trying to shoot more consistently.  Should be doing that anyways, but tougher to do these days. 

Overall, the ACRO has a slightly taller window than the EPS, but easy to keep the dot tracking within the window (or less) in rapid fire.  At least when testing in the 5-7 yard range.  The ACRO body does present a slightly "tougher" presentation from AIWB than the EPS, but not much.  Something I'll have to dedicate more time to.  Previously, most CCW dry practice was with 19 and RMR setup. 

raudi

Re: Pistol RDS - Closed Emitter - Experiences & Recommendations
« Reply #139 on: May 22, 2023, 12:42:09 PM »
Picked up a Steiner MPS for my Staccato P. Was looking for a Acro P2, but got tired of searching. Will Post more once I get everything and shoot the setup,