Revolver burst fire (Read 3489 times)

zippz

Revolver burst fire
« on: August 23, 2022, 01:01:46 PM »
I didn't know this was possible, burst fire a high powered revolver.  I guess the recoil pushes the gun back in the hand enough to reset the trigger while the person is still pressing the trigger from the first shot.  Or a the gun flips and breaks the grip, then shooter regrips the gun doing a ND?  Not sure how it happens.

Wonder if this is one of the reasons for the holes in the pistol range eyebrow or rounds escaping the range.



« Last Edit: August 23, 2022, 02:26:34 PM by zippz »

WTF?Shane

Re: Revolver burst fire
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2022, 02:16:02 PM »
Yeah, sort of like a bump fire.

randay

Re: Revolver burst fire
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2022, 02:19:09 PM »
second shot goes straight up  :wacko:

mrgaf

Re: Revolver burst fire
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2022, 02:57:31 PM »
Gotta ban revolvers! :D
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stangzilla

Re: Revolver burst fire
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2022, 03:05:40 PM »
Rookie  O0

QUIETShooter

Re: Revolver burst fire
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2022, 03:07:29 PM »
Whenever I see videos like these where the shooter seems unaware as to how powerful the recoil can be I wonder how much coaching the shooter had before firing the weapon.

I don't think this video is the case (maybe it is) but on some videos it seems the less the shooter knows the more laughs they can get out of it.

Which in my opinion is a very dangerous thing to do and very irresponsible.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

drck1000

Re: Revolver burst fire
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2022, 03:25:13 PM »
I've seen it happen with a new(er) shooter who didn't want to try, but was being coaxed/forced.  In the case I saw, believe the initial shot startled the shooter and regripped and pulled trigger second time.  Where initial recoil allowed the full trigger travel back.  In that case, second shot was over 45 degrees upward.

Now, I keep an eye out for that stuff on the range.  :o

Platinum808

Re: Revolver burst fire
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2022, 03:40:57 PM »
This is how a lady killed herself look it up but instead of shooting straight up it recoiled more back so it shot her head off! It was a 500sw too!
Oh ignorant youth, the world is not a joyous place. The time has come for you to dispense with the frivolous pleasures of childhood and get down to honest toil until you are sixty-five. Then and only then can you relax and collect your social security and live happily until the time of your death!

-Hunter S. Thompson

groveler

Re: Revolver burst fire
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2022, 04:18:26 PM »
That gun is a monster!
I would not buy one,
I had the chance to "fondle"
one in a LA gun shop.
If you know guns,
you pick out what works.
Bigger is not always better.
Aim small hit small.
Alaska back woods is 45 ACP
and 12 GA shotgun.
 :thumbsup:

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Revolver burst fire
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2022, 04:38:43 PM »
This is a dangerous gun to hand to a newb.  There needs to be a warning label: load no more than one round in the cylinder at a time.  Until you have experienced the force it creates, that would be a prudent safety measure.

Or ... Maybe every other cylinder? 

Bang!  *click*  Bang!  *click*  Bang!  *click*

 :geekdanc: :shaka:

The second discharge is caused by reflex -- the shooter instinctively tightens their grip to keep from dropping the firearm not realizing they are also gripping the trigger.  With enough slack to reset the trigger, it's no wonder the second round fires.

This is too common -- lots of videos of the same thing or worse.  Same as when someone hands his girlfriend a 12ga shotgun with a pistol grip.  Not so funny when the barrel flips 180 degrees flagging everyone behind her.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

stangzilla

Re: Revolver burst fire
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2022, 04:58:04 PM »
when I bring new shooters to the range, I leave my 44's and 357's at home, or only bring 44sp and 38sp ammo
for new shooters I like to bring 22LR, 9mm with my G19 (not any compact or micro compact 9mm pistol), and my 6" barrel 357 with 38sp ammo
my reasoning is:  new shooters can't handle the recoil of magnum handguns, and you could scare them off of firearms if you give them a powerful magnum to shoot and they hit themselves in the forehead or have a bad experience
you want to test the waters before diving in the deep end
I love shooting 357 and 44mag, but 500 and 460 is too much for me.  454 I can do, but that's my limit
I shot 500 magnum a couple times and it is a handful.  454 is more manageable to me
but some love shooting the big ones, and to each his own
like Dirty Harry says, "a man's gotta know his limitations."  and he is a wise man indeed


QUIETShooter

Re: Revolver burst fire
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2022, 08:11:43 AM »
Whenever I see videos like these where the shooter seems unaware as to how powerful the recoil can be I wonder how much coaching the shooter had before firing the weapon.

I don't think this video is the case (maybe it is) but on some videos it seems the less the shooter knows the more laughs they can get out of it.

Which in my opinion is a very dangerous thing to do and very irresponsible.

In my post above I wasn't trying to be snobbish or smug or anything.  I just felt that trying to get laughs out of a newbie shooting a powerful gun without coaching is dangerous and irresponsible.

With that being said, I'd like to share an experience where even though you are trying to be safe and responsible, you never can tell what will happen when there is a new shooter and a powerful handgun.

This was like 40+ years ago when I first acquired my SW29.  My buddy and I went to Kokohead to shoot my 29 and also a .22 six-shooter that I also owned.  After shooting the .22 my buddy wanted to try the 29.  I already started to get used to the 29, having shot it before on earlier visits to the range but this would be my buddy's first time.

I am no firearms instructor but I wanted to be safe and to make him aware of the recoil and kick.  He did watch me fire it before he asked to shoot it, so I told him to hold it firmly because the recoil will make the gun want to flip up into the air.  Or something like that, can't remember.  I just wanted him to realize that the gun can jump out of his hands if he doesn't hold it firmly.

Anyway, you can tell he was nervous and apprehensive.  It seemed he tried to overcompensate or something but when he fired it, the round hit the ground about 5 yards in front of us that startled both of us and prompted the RSO to come running and screaming.

Memory is kinda foggy not sure if he screamed but he was a bit pissed.  Gave us some lecture about proper hold, using specials until we can get comfortable with the factory hot loads, yada yada.

We apologized and I'm pretty sure we told him we were done for the day.  :rofl:

Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

zippz

Re: Revolver burst fire
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2022, 08:34:39 AM »
Whenever I see videos like these where the shooter seems unaware as to how powerful the recoil can be I wonder how much coaching the shooter had before firing the weapon.

I don't think this video is the case (maybe it is) but on some videos it seems the less the shooter knows the more laughs they can get out of it.

Which in my opinion is a very dangerous thing to do and very irresponsible.

Looked like she had good technique and coaches were doing what they supposed to do.  Guess it could happen to anyone.

Pipitlvr808

Re: Revolver burst fire
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2022, 08:42:29 AM »
Thought I share a video of happened when I took a experienced friend shooting.  It was a great learning experience for us both.  This was his first time shooting a big bore revolver and we loaded 2 rounds in the chamber which was a big mistake.  You can see his weak grip and limp wrist, his supporting hand completely slipped off of the firearm.  We were lucky nothing bad happened that day, the round was lost some where in the empty lava field.  This goes to show to always respect your firearms no matter how experienced you are.

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