yeah, was just going to post
drove past at 1:30 pm, line to the metal detector

 

Just drove by out the door just past the 2nd pillar

Line is longer than the picture today.  Wait is still around 2 hours.  Need separate windows or hpd to take registration and weapon pickups or something.

Or we could just do away with the registration process. Psh. Yeah right!!!

Yuuuup I was in that line today auwright @ 1430 hours tryin to register my Henry Golden Boy 22...  Felt like  when a Police Officer stated,  .  Oh well... try again Monday...     so i'll guess I enjoy the weekend now...   

Yuuuup I was in that line today auwright @ 1430 hours tryin to register my Henry Golden Boy 22...  Felt like  when a Police Officer stated,  .  Oh well... try again Monday...     so i'll guess I enjoy the weekend now...   

Man that Sucks!  How the heck are people supposed to adhere to the law when they cannot process in a timely manner! 

yesterday's situation was beyond my scope of control..
 - bought my rifle this past Saturday 
 - almost forgot was Thanksgiving week
 - got smashed at work
 - did not fully realize all the excitement nowadays with firearms sales
 - just gotta go with the flow

FAWKING SHIBBITS!!!! I forgot to go down yesterday and do my permit. 

Hearing all the horror stories about the hpd line in the store today!

the guys behind the desk don't bat an eye if you are late to register a long arm
i think it happens more than you think

aloha

steve

FAWKING SHIBBITS!!!! I forgot to go down yesterday and do my permit. 

...................Or we could just do away with the registration process......

 

How's about this for a solution for folks like us that already have a Permit to Acquire
 - Almost like buying a car...
 - Buy the rifle from the dealer
 - Rifle is already registered in the State to the Dealer when they acquire it right???
 - Dealer sends Rifle information information to HPD via fax or e-mail
   to start the transfer process from Dealer to you
 - Receive your rifle registration paperwork in the mail or as a PDF via e-mail
 - No need to go to Police Department, except for Permit to Acquire initial or renewal process

Almost the same process for pistols -
 

IMHO, the lawmakers here will never do anything to simplify the firearms acquisition process. They want it to be a time consuming, frustrating process. There is probably a satisfied lawmaker smiling smugly at the thought of your difficulties registering your Henry .22, hoping that you will think twice about trying to buy another firearm. 

How's about this for a solution for folks like us that already have a Permit to Acquire
 - Almost like buying a car...
 - Buy the rifle from the dealer
 - Rifle is already registered in the State to the Dealer when they acquire it right???
 - Dealer sends Rifle information information to HPD via fax or e-mail
   to start the transfer process from Dealer to you
 - Receive your rifle registration paperwork in the mail or as a PDF via e-mail
 - No need to go to Police Department, except for Permit to Acquire initial or renewal process

Almost the same process for pistols -

IMHO, the lawmakers here will never do anything to simplify the firearms acquisition process. They want it to be a time consuming, frustrating process. There is probably a satisfied lawmaker smiling smugly at the thought of your difficulties registering your Henry .22, hoping that you will think twice about trying to buy another firearm.

That is very true. I love my suggestion better. Do away with registration.

HNN reporting that we are probably ahead of record pace for firearms sales this year.  Could have something to do with the line at HPD......................

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/20179546/guns-selling-at-record-pace-on-oahu

As far as the registration process goes, you never know. I am originally from CA, and the system they have there is far better (registration-wise) than here. Until 2014 only handguns are registered, and that is at the point-of-sale. Long arms will likely be similar once the new registration requirement goes into affect. Everything is sent electronically to Sacramento, and there is no paperwork held by the owner. The state DOJ trusts the FFL, after all so does the Federal government.

The simple solution here in Hawaii (while maintaining the asinine registration requirement), is for the HPD workers to simply mail the registration paperwork to the owner after they receive the paperwork from the FFL. The FFL requires that information per the 1968 Gun Control Act, so how many layers of duplicity do we need? No visits to HPD unless filling out/picking up a permit (which is safer for HPD on several counts), no headaches, and takes advantage of the Federal requirements already in place. And it would SAVE MONEY!!!!!!

If California can do it with its union-backed liberal paradise mentality, why can't Hawaii?

Could we start writing to our legislators and ask them to change the laws?

stood in line on black friday.
got there at 0700 and was 16th in line.
by the time it opened, there was over 40 people in line.

Who should we write to address the problem? Suggestions. District reps?

Who should we write to address the problem? Suggestions. District reps?

Since it's a C&C thing, I would assume your City Councilman.  Maybe even the Mayor. 

Got to HPD at 7 this morning.  Was 10th in line.  Left there at 8:30, and at this point, the line was to the metal detectors. 

As far as the registration process goes, you never know. I am originally from CA, and the system they have there is far better (registration-wise) than here. Until 2014 only handguns are registered, and that is at the point-of-sale. Long arms will likely be similar once the new registration requirement goes into affect. Everything is sent electronically to Sacramento, and there is no paperwork held by the owner. The state DOJ trusts the FFL, after all so does the Federal government.

The simple solution here in Hawaii (while maintaining the asinine registration requirement), is for the HPD workers to simply mail the registration paperwork to the owner after they receive the paperwork from the FFL. The FFL requires that information per the 1968 Gun Control Act, so how many layers of duplicity do we need? No visits to HPD unless filling out/picking up a permit (which is safer for HPD on several counts), no headaches, and takes advantage of the Federal requirements already in place. And it would SAVE MONEY!!!!!!

If California can do it with its union-backed liberal paradise mentality, why can't Hawaii?

That really IS a good process.  You are right, why can't Hawaii follow suit?