would HPD teach our teachers too? (Read 2180 times)

ren

Deeds Not Words

groveler

Re: would HPD teach our teachers too?
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2022, 08:05:00 PM »
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I'm not an NRA qualified instructor.
I don't think most "teachers" are capable of dealing with guns
Period.
The indoctrination they have to pass through
to get credentialed, is antithetical to the
self preservation of an individual.
I went to university with these people.
They are nutcases.
They are ants ( btw most ants are female)
and all they are all trained to do is serve the hive.
Thankfully there a few of us Drones out there that
do the dirty.
 :geekdanc:

ren

Re: would HPD teach our teachers too?
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2022, 08:09:31 PM »
I'm not an NRA qualified instructor.
I don't think most "teachers" are capable of dealing with guns
Period.
The indoctrination they have to pass through
to get credentialed, is antithetical to the
self preservation of an individual.
I went to university with these people.
They are nutcases.
They are ants ( btw most ants are female)
and all they are all trained to do is serve the hive.
Thankfully there a few of us Drones out there that
do the dirty.
 :geekdanc:

Kava is a helluva drank...
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: would HPD teach our teachers too?
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2022, 08:36:16 PM »
I'm not an NRA qualified instructor.
I don't think most "teachers" are capable of dealing with guns
Period.
The indoctrination they have to pass through
to get credentialed, is antithetical to the
self preservation of an individual.
I went to university with these people.
They are nutcases.
They are ants ( btw most ants are female)
and all they are all trained to do is serve the hive.
Thankfully there a few of us Drones out there that
do the dirty.
 :geekdanc:

Even worker ants deserve the tools and training needed to protect the hive.

Just saying. 

When it's a choice between being shot and watching "your" kids die in front of you, Leftist politics go out the window for most.

I can see a teacher holding up a "GUN FREE ZONE" sign as the "alternative" to armed teachers.  That teacher would just be advertising to the next local mass murderer where the softest target in town is.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

punaperson

Re: would HPD teach our teachers too?
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2022, 08:58:03 PM »
"would HPD teach our teachers too?"

Haha. Obviously not a chance in hell.

That Utah sheriff is elected by the people of the community he serves to do their bidding as law enforcement. There are no elected law enforcement in Hawaii. They are all chosen by bureaucrats who choose the most sheeplike who will do exalctly as they are told to enact the anti-liberty, anti-freedom and anti-rights agenda of the Democrat fascist authoritarians. Teaching anyone to defend themselves, their loved ones and their property, or even strangers, is antithetical to the whole Hawaii "thing". You know, "aloha", "kuleana"... and all that sh*t.

jc2721

Re: would HPD teach our teachers too?
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2022, 11:48:09 PM »
I already know how to shoot.  You might be surprised at the number of teachers who know how to use a firearm.

punaperson

Re: would HPD teach our teachers too?
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2022, 06:43:52 AM »
I already know how to shoot.  You might be surprised at the number of teachers who know how to use a firearm.
If Jerry Miculek is disarmed, his shooting skills are useless.

changemyoil66

Re: would HPD teach our teachers too?
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2022, 08:02:11 AM »
I have a friend whos a teacher and her attitude is "why should I have to also now protect and arm up added to all the other stuff we have to do.  And we won't get paid any more for this".

She doesn't understand the concept that she is her own first responder, even if her armed husband is outside the classroom 20 yards away (Uvalde cop who was told to leave when his wife was shot inside, who didn't die until she arrived at the hospital).

Flapp_Jackson

Re: would HPD teach our teachers too?
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2022, 12:48:42 PM »
I have a friend whos a teacher and her attitude is "why should I have to also now protect and arm up added to all the other stuff we have to do.  And we won't get paid any more for this".

She doesn't understand the concept that she is her own first responder, even if her armed husband is outside the classroom 20 yards away (Uvalde cop who was told to leave when his wife was shot inside, who didn't die until she arrived at the hospital).

Most people have a short-sighted attitude when it comes to emergency preparedness.  That's what 911 and on-campus security and medical employees are there for.  It's the "not my job" mindset.  Nobody ever told your friend her safety and security ARE her #1 job -- that everything else is a lower priority because you can't do those other things if you're injured or dead.

We drill into teachers and students how to act in case of fire -- holding fire drills, doing Fire Prevention Month in Oct every year, and having firemen give talks about having home evacuation plans and "stop, drop & roll."  Fire is taken seriously when schools are built, detectors and sprinklers are installed, extinguishers are located throughout, fire doors are included in hallways, and alarm systems are installed and tested.

Why do we do all of that when the odds of a fire threatening the school during school hours are extremely low?  Maybe because someone in authority was convinced that the safety of our kids in school are a high priority, and that the cost for being wrong would be too high.

That same thought process needs to be applied to school shootings.  What's the cost of being wrong about having armed and capable teachers if/when a shooting happens there?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw