How many times must Biden violate the Constitution to be "Tyrannical?" (Read 2994 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Resident Biden, leading up to the midterms, loudly and boldly announced HE is forgiving the student loans of specific students with outstanding loans.

When he first announced this scheme, it was criticized as being unconstitutional, because he doesn't have the authority to forgive debts owed to the banks carrying the debt.  In fact, "forgiveness" is a misnomer.  He wants to pay off a portion of the student loan using tax payer monies.  That's a gift from the government to a select group of borrowers.  Nothing more.  The borrowers will still be on the hook for the remaining balance of their loans, some upwards of 3-5 times what would have been paid for.  The lenders would get all that money, so nothing was "forgiven." 

Additionally, it would shift the burden of paying those tuitions and other school costs from the people who promised to pay it back to ALL tax payers, most of whom did not take out such loans.  Joe the Plumber and Jane the Waitress will be paying for Miranda the Twitter Censor's student loans while being unable to afford to send their own kids to college.  Not even close to fair.

Now, a federal judge in Texas has ruled OFFICIALLY Biden's loan forgiveness scheme is unconstitutional.  Big shock -- not!  Most people already saw this for what it was -- a midterm election promise to throw tax payer money at you if you Kept the Dems in power.

Federal Judge Strikes Down
Student Loan Forgiveness Program

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A federal judge in Texas handed the Biden administration a defeat, declaring the
student loan forgiveness plan unconstitutional. U.S. District Judge Mark Pittman
ruled in favor of two plaintiffs who sued the government after they failed to qualify
to have $10,000 in student loans forgiven.

Pittman said that President Joe Biden overstepped his constitutional authority
when he authorized the Department of Education to forgive loans for borrowers
who earn less than $125,000 a year.

"The program is thus an unconstitutional exercise of Congress's legislative power
and must be vacated," wrote Judge Mark Pittman. "In this country, we are not ruled
by an all-powerful executive with a pen and a phone."

The Biden administration has stopped taking applications while the Justice Department
appealed the ruling.
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groveler

Re: How many times must Biden violate the Constitution to be "Tyrannical?"
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2022, 03:03:18 PM »
Democrats don't need no stinking Constitution.
They have a Democracy, where the Majority can
change the rules anytime they want.  Depending on how they feel
at the time.
Ask Socrates how that worked out.
 :wtf:
There is but one,  fix now.
4GW.
Never break a law, but don't comply with any either.

QUIETShooter

Re: How many times must Biden violate the Constitution to be "Tyrannical?"
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2022, 03:13:13 PM »
Yay Federal Judge Mark Pittman :thumbsup:

Boo joe biden.

FJB.....FJB.....FJB......FJB... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:  I love that video where obama couldn't get a word in while the people were chanting FJB........ ;D

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changemyoil66

I would rather forgive loans of students than forgive debts of corporations like Republicans love to do. After republicans destroy the economy and cause grave damage to the country by removing regulations and safeguards that are designed to protect our country and its citizens.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: How many times must Biden violate the Constitution to be "Tyrannical?"
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2022, 06:32:54 PM »
I would rather forgive loans of students than forgive debts of corporations like Republicans love to do. After republicans destroy the economy and cause grave damage to the country by removing regulations and safeguards that are designed to protect our country and its citizens.

It's not an either-or issue.

Most of the students taking out massive loans are not indigent.  They are Ivey League grads with great-paying jobs or trust funds who are not worried about rent or high gas prices.

Also, the Democrats are the party of the big corporations now.  do some actual research with your eyes and mind open.  From big banks and big tech to the press, the Dems and massive corporations are inseparable.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

groveler

Re: How many times must Biden violate the Constitution to be "Tyrannical?"
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2022, 06:39:29 PM »
I would rather forgive loans of students than forgive debts of corporations like Republicans love to do. After republicans destroy the economy and cause grave damage to the country by removing regulations and safeguards that are designed to protect our country and its citizens.
Very provocative comment!
"removing regulations and safeguards".
I just have a question, when some personal disaster strikes, be it natural or man caused,
who do you expect to save you?
"regulations and safeguards", just curious.
 :rofl:

mrgaf

Re: How many times must Biden violate the Constitution to be "Tyrannical?"
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2022, 07:39:25 PM »
I would rather forgive loans of students than forgive debts of corporations like Republicans love to do. After republicans destroy the economy and cause grave damage to the country by removing regulations and safeguards that are designed to protect our country and its citizens.

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Kalikikopa

Re: How many times must Biden violate the Constitution to be "Tyrannical?"
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2022, 08:44:34 PM »
I would rather forgive loans of students than forgive debts of corporations like Republicans love to do. After republicans destroy the economy and cause grave damage to the country by removing regulations and safeguards that are designed to protect our country and its citizens.

I have been listening about republicans being in bed with big business. I've also noticed over the years the Democrats seem to be blaming the republicans for what they are doing. DNC colluding with russia for the for a fake dossier.  quid pro quo with Biden withholding aid from Ukraine until the prosecutor investigating the business Hunter is dealing with is fired, and way too many more to type. My question now is which big business is in bed with the republicans again? Amazon? Google? MSNBC? Twitter? Facebook? 
Don't get me wrong, I believe politicians don't need a party label to be corrupt.  I just am seeing one party being considerably more in lockstep to preserve that corruption.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: How many times must Biden violate the Constitution to be "Tyrannical?"
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2022, 10:32:33 PM »
I have been listening about republicans being in bed with big business. I've also noticed over the years the Democrats seem to be blaming the republicans for what they are doing. DNC colluding with russia for the for a fake dossier.  quid pro quo with Biden withholding aid from Ukraine until the prosecutor investigating the business Hunter is dealing with is fired, and way too many more to type. My question now is which big business is in bed with the republicans again? Amazon? Google? MSNBC? Twitter? Facebook? 
Don't get me wrong, I believe politicians don't need a party label to be corrupt.  I just am seeing one party being considerably more in lockstep to preserve that corruption.

Exactly.  Who benefits most from a student loan repayment scheme?

The lenders ... i.e. big banks and other financial institutions.

The students involved get a minor gift, but nothing big enough to make a downpayment on a condo.

And all the students who didn't take out loans or paid them off already are chumps, because they fulfilled their obligations like adults and get NOTHING BACK.

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: How many times must Biden violate the Constitution to be "Tyrannical?"
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2022, 04:49:21 PM »
You should watch this video completely, Pay attention to the amount the student being interviewed qualified for under Biden's loan repayment scheme.

Then take note of why she is eligible for that larger repayment amount.  (Hint:  Pell Grant)

Her final comment about "Why can not society help us and pay back" totally ignores the fact that she's already had part of her college paid for through the Pell Grant.

OMFG!  This is what Liberal colleges are producing today!


I know you already helped pay for my college, but you should pay all of it, because I don't want to be responsible for my own debts.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Exactly.  Who benefits most from a student loan repayment scheme?

The lenders ... i.e. big banks and other financial institutions.

The students involved get a minor gift, but nothing big enough to make a downpayment on a condo.

And all the students who didn't take out loans or paid them off already are chumps, because they fulfilled their obligations like adults and get NOTHING BACK.

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I chose to go to UH cause it was $3k a year. I didnt want to be in debt $40k+.


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QUIETShooter

Re: How many times must Biden violate the Constitution to be "Tyrannical?"
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2022, 06:20:59 PM »
I wonder how those other students who paid off their debts feel about biden and his loan forgiveness BS.

biden doesn't care about these students who showed responsibility and paid off their debt.  Hell, he doesn't care a rat's ass for the students he now is giving a free pass on their loans.

biden only cares about the supposed image he is projecting of helping students laden with debt.  It's all posturing with hopes of improving his political image among Americans.

Especially the young and naive, being groomed in woke doctrine who will carry on the socialist demkratic agenda of the New People's Republik of Amerika.

Heil biden!!
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: How many times must Biden violate the Constitution to be "Tyrannical?"
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2022, 06:36:14 PM »
I wonder how those other students who paid off their debts feel about biden and his loan forgiveness BS.

biden doesn't care about these students who showed responsibility and paid off their debt.  Hell, he doesn't care a rat's ass for the students he now is giving a free pass on their loans.

biden only cares about the supposed image he is projecting of helping students laden with debt.  It's all posturing with hopes of improving his political image among Americans.

Especially the young and naive, being groomed in woke doctrine who will carry on the socialist demkratic agenda of the New People's Republik of Amerika.

Heil biden!!

What about the tradesman who went to work out of high school, became a well-paid expert in his craft (carpentry, landscaping, plumbing, etc.)?  What makes him less deserving of a $10K-$20K bump in his bank account at tax payer expense.

That's compared to the college grad who never had a real job and now teaches women's studies at another school and is $100K in debt after getting a Master's Degree.

And calling it student loan forgiveness is a lie.  Nothing is forgiven. The loan is still going to be paid but by tax payers, not the one's who benefitted -- that being the colleges and lenders.

Want to discuss why tuition and costs for higher eduction is so high?  Because these big loans make it possible for the students to pay it.  Basic economics of price elasticity.  Plain as that.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: How many times must Biden violate the Constitution to be "Tyrannical?"
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2022, 07:22:13 PM »
they polled the people who were going to get loan forgiveness, and 75% of them said that they were going to a nice restaurant or on a vacation with the $$$...

changemyoil66

How many blue voted did this violation get?

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Flapp_Jackson

How many blue voted did this violation get?


I saw reports that 26 Million student loan forgiveness applications have already been submitted.  Roughly 40 Million are eligible for the illegal program.

That's a lot of people of voting age.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

How many blue voted did this violation get?

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Clearly not enough, seeing as how hard they had to cheat in multiple races in the usual states
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.