Purchase Firearm from neighbor island (Read 5633 times)

paulb3

Purchase Firearm from neighbor island
« on: November 14, 2012, 07:02:41 PM »
Hi sorry if this has been asked before I tried searching for it but I could not find the topic.

I live on the Big Island and there is a gun on Oahu that I am getting from a friend what would the order of events be for me to get it transferred out of his name and registered under me.  Also what would be the best way to get it from there to here?

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Re: Purchase Firearm from neighbor island
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2012, 07:10:56 PM »
Bill of sale with rifles serial number, ccopy of his registration of the rifle, register it in your name when u get home

dmas

Re: Purchase Firearm from neighbor island
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2012, 07:26:36 PM »
Is it a long gun or pistol?  Pistol seems like it may be a bit more effort.  A lot of timing things right plus airfare.

Tom_G

Re: Purchase Firearm from neighbor island
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2012, 05:28:43 AM »
It it is a longarm, first you will need a Permit To Acquire Longarms. Then one of you flies to see the other. You trade the gun for cash. Take the gun, your permit, and yout friend's contact info to the main police station there on BI and register it.  All done!

If it is a handgun, things will get much more complex.  First you will have to have proof that you have attended a state-approved firearms safety training class. Then you have two choices:

Choice one.
Find a FFL on BI and pay them a few dollars to handle the transfer.

Choice two.
Go to the main police station on BI. Fill out an Application To Acquire A Handgun. Wait two weeks. Have your friend fly over to visit, bringing the gun with him. Both of you go and visit the police together, taking the gun.
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Re: Purchase Firearm from neighbor island
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2012, 12:42:23 AM »
Keep it simple...flying back and forth is a serious waste of money.

If it's a pistol, just go through your local FFL the same as with any out of state transfer. The seller can have his FFL send it or just send a pistol via UPS/FedEx (no USPS) directly to the yours (FFL).

Long guns are simpler. You send certified copies of your ID and permit to acquire along with payment to the seller. Then the seller can send it registered mail w/ restricted delivery to you. The certified copies along with registered mail receipt serves as the sellers proof of sale. Easy peasy. Since it's your friend selling it, you can


***Note: You never really transfer a firearm out of your name. The registration will remain on file until HPD fixes their system. <---Meaning some guns are "registered" to several people in the files. It's the last guy who registered who's supposed to have it.
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Re: Purchase Firearm from neighbor island
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2012, 06:33:50 AM »
Am I required to have a bill of sale or proof that I sold a firea :grrr: :grrr:rm here in the state of Hawaii?
I've heard some mainland states its not required.


Hmmm, now that I think about it, if its a pistol you would need one due to all this registration crap. What about a long gun?

Kingkeoni

Re: Purchase Firearm from neighbor island
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2012, 08:31:14 AM »
Am I required to have a bill of sale or proof that I sold a firea :grrr: :grrr:rm here in the state of Hawaii?

Hahaha, this part of your post cracks me up.

It's like you got Tourette's

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Re: Purchase Firearm from neighbor island
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2012, 10:32:11 AM »

Long guns are simpler. You send certified copies of your ID and permit to acquire along with payment to the seller. Then the seller can send it registered mail w/ restricted delivery to you. The certified copies along with registered mail receipt serves as the sellers proof of sale. Easy peasy. Since it's your friend selling it, you can


Incorrect. You can only ship a gun via common carrier to yourself, to an FFL, or to a manufacturer for repair. You explicitly cannot conduct a sale this way. Read the Gun Control Act of 1968 or USPS Publication 52.  Colt808 is advising you to commit a felony.
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Kingkeoni

Re: Purchase Firearm from neighbor island
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2012, 12:18:38 PM »
Tom is correct.

You can NOT ship a rifle to any individual.

Only an FFL or yourself.

Please do not follow the advice to ship it to someone else. It is a federal crime.
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gotblika

Re: Purchase Firearm from neighbor island
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2012, 05:01:25 PM »
You can ship INTRAstate to a buyer

hnl.flyboy

Re: Purchase Firearm from neighbor island
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2012, 06:57:09 PM »
You can ship INTRAstate to a buyer

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Selling to someone in ANOTHER state is against the law.  You can mail it to someone in the SAME state.  IANAL

Am I required to have a bill of sale or proof that I sold a firearm here in the state of Hawaii?
I've heard some mainland states its not required.


Hmmm, now that I think about it, if its a pistol you would need one due to all this registration crap. What about a long gun?

When selling a long gun in the State of Hawaii, the seller is required to contact the police department of their county within 3 or 5 days (not sure) and let them know to whom it was sold.  You don't really need a bill of sale except to cover your ass.
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